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Want to use spring... but should I be looking at Virgo instead ?
I have done about a days worth of reasearch on this, but am not quite clear
on this yet :-
My Objective :-
1. Develop web apps / wabs etc that use Spring (with annotations etc)
(The doubt is if applicationContext.xml etc will work in Karaf)
2. Develop osgi services (general purpose.. but can be used by web apps )
3. Use standards compliant blueprint to inject external osgi services to my
Spring web app.
Now I see a lot of talk that leads me to belive that 1 can be done, and 2
can be done.. but not 3.
Compared to this, Virgo seems to be the best (???) solution if I want to use
a lot of Spring.
I like Servicemix and the fact that it has good console integration with
ActiveMq etc and dont really want to moveto Virgo.
Can anyone pls advice ?
BTW.. i dont plan to extensively use Servicemix for JBI type stuff... just
as
a general OSGI platform (so just Karaf would also work I guess), but with
the added advantage of having all these other bundles pre-shipped (like
ActiveMq, Camel , Web/jetty etc etc)
Thanks
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Re: Want to use spring... but should I be looking at Virgo instead ?
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Shahed,
As long as you don't use Spring DM 2.0 you don't need to turn off Blueprint.
So I recommend that you use blueprint for all bundles besides the WAB and only
Spring in combination with Spring-DM 1.2 for your WAB.
In Karaf, you just need to install the needed Spring-Features like
Spring-Web and also
Spring-DM (Version 1.2.1). Using this you should be set :)
Oh and you probably need something like this:
<context-param>
<param-name>contextClass</param-name>
(1)
<param-value>org.springframework.osgi.web.context.support.OsgiBundleXmlWebApplicationContext</param-value>
(2)
</context-param>
<listener>
<listener-class>org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener</listener-class>
(3)
</listener>
Regards, Achim
2012/8/3 shahed100 <sh...@gmail.com>:
> Thanks Achim,
>
> So just to clarify, (because I am new to this), I assume you mean
> install and use the Spring DM bundle in Karaf.
>
> Yes, this makes sense, since the technologies should work on any
> container (as DM / blueprint are just bundles) if there are no
> conflicts.
>
> Question :- Do I need to turn OFF blueprint (aries) in someway to
> avoid 2 components trying to open up my deployed JAR (bundle) ?
>
> Regards
> Shahed
>
> On 3 August 2012 12:04, Achim Nierbeck [via ServiceMix]
> <ml...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
>> Well
>>
>> if you stick to using spring dm 1.2.1 (which isn't that much different
>> then blueprint)
>> you still are able to inject any type of Service into your WAB.
>> You just need to make sure you have that special OSGi Application
>> Context class in use of Spring-DM.
>> If you just follow this little rule I think you should be fine with it :)
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>> 2012/8/3 shahed100 <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>> I have done about a days worth of reasearch on this, but am not quite
>>> clear
>>> on this yet :-
>>>
>>> My Objective :-
>>>
>>> 1. Develop web apps / wabs etc that use Spring (with annotations etc)
>>>
>>> (The doubt is if applicationContext.xml etc will work in Karaf)
>>>
>>> 2. Develop osgi services (general purpose.. but can be used by web apps )
>>>
>>> 3. Use standards compliant blueprint to inject external osgi services to
>>> my
>>> Spring web app.
>>>
>>> Now I see a lot of talk that leads me to belive that 1 can be done, and 2
>>> can be done.. but not 3.
>>>
>>> Compared to this, Virgo seems to be the best (???) solution if I want to
>>> use
>>> a lot of Spring.
>>>
>>> I like Servicemix and the fact that it has good console integration with
>>> ActiveMq etc and dont really want to moveto Virgo.
>>>
>>> Can anyone pls advice ?
>>>
>>> BTW.. i dont plan to extensively use Servicemix for JBI type stuff... just
>>> as
>>> a general OSGI platform (so just Karaf would also work I guess), but with
>>> the added advantage of having all these other bundles pre-shipped (like
>>> ActiveMq, Camel , Web/jetty etc etc)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: Want to use spring... but should I be looking at Virgo instead
?
Posted by shahed100 <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Achim,
So just to clarify, (because I am new to this), I assume you mean
install and use the Spring DM bundle in Karaf.
Yes, this makes sense, since the technologies should work on any
container (as DM / blueprint are just bundles) if there are no
conflicts.
Question :- Do I need to turn OFF blueprint (aries) in someway to
avoid 2 components trying to open up my deployed JAR (bundle) ?
Regards
Shahed
On 3 August 2012 12:04, Achim Nierbeck [via ServiceMix]
<ml...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> Well
>
> if you stick to using spring dm 1.2.1 (which isn't that much different
> then blueprint)
> you still are able to inject any type of Service into your WAB.
> You just need to make sure you have that special OSGi Application
> Context class in use of Spring-DM.
> If you just follow this little rule I think you should be fine with it :)
>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2012/8/3 shahed100 <[hidden email]>:
>
>> I have done about a days worth of reasearch on this, but am not quite
>> clear
>> on this yet :-
>>
>> My Objective :-
>>
>> 1. Develop web apps / wabs etc that use Spring (with annotations etc)
>>
>> (The doubt is if applicationContext.xml etc will work in Karaf)
>>
>> 2. Develop osgi services (general purpose.. but can be used by web apps )
>>
>> 3. Use standards compliant blueprint to inject external osgi services to
>> my
>> Spring web app.
>>
>> Now I see a lot of talk that leads me to belive that 1 can be done, and 2
>> can be done.. but not 3.
>>
>> Compared to this, Virgo seems to be the best (???) solution if I want to
>> use
>> a lot of Spring.
>>
>> I like Servicemix and the fact that it has good console integration with
>> ActiveMq etc and dont really want to moveto Virgo.
>>
>> Can anyone pls advice ?
>>
>> BTW.. i dont plan to extensively use Servicemix for JBI type stuff... just
>> as
>> a general OSGI platform (so just Karaf would also work I guess), but with
>> the added advantage of having all these other bundles pre-shipped (like
>> ActiveMq, Camel , Web/jetty etc etc)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://servicemix.396122.n5.nabble.com/Want-to-use-spring-but-should-I-be-looking-at-Virgo-instead-tp5714067.html
>> Sent from the ServiceMix - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> --
>
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> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
> Committer & Project Lead
> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
> <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
> Lead
> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>
>
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Re: Want to use spring... but should I be looking at Virgo instead ?
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Well
if you stick to using spring dm 1.2.1 (which isn't that much different
then blueprint)
you still are able to inject any type of Service into your WAB.
You just need to make sure you have that special OSGi Application
Context class in use of Spring-DM.
If you just follow this little rule I think you should be fine with it :)
regards, Achim
2012/8/3 shahed100 <sh...@gmail.com>:
> I have done about a days worth of reasearch on this, but am not quite clear
> on this yet :-
>
> My Objective :-
>
> 1. Develop web apps / wabs etc that use Spring (with annotations etc)
>
> (The doubt is if applicationContext.xml etc will work in Karaf)
>
> 2. Develop osgi services (general purpose.. but can be used by web apps )
>
> 3. Use standards compliant blueprint to inject external osgi services to my
> Spring web app.
>
> Now I see a lot of talk that leads me to belive that 1 can be done, and 2
> can be done.. but not 3.
>
> Compared to this, Virgo seems to be the best (???) solution if I want to use
> a lot of Spring.
>
> I like Servicemix and the fact that it has good console integration with
> ActiveMq etc and dont really want to moveto Virgo.
>
> Can anyone pls advice ?
>
> BTW.. i dont plan to extensively use Servicemix for JBI type stuff... just
> as
> a general OSGI platform (so just Karaf would also work I guess), but with
> the added advantage of having all these other bundles pre-shipped (like
> ActiveMq, Camel , Web/jetty etc etc)
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://servicemix.396122.n5.nabble.com/Want-to-use-spring-but-should-I-be-looking-at-Virgo-instead-tp5714067.html
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OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
Committer & Project Lead
OPS4J Pax for Vaadin
<http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project
Lead
blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>