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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com> on 2015/01/12 20:29:47 UTC
https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
So, the structure of the https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/ directory is
odd:
platforms/ <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/platforms/>
2015-01-10 00:11 -
plugins/ <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/plugins/>
2014-12-30 05:04 -
tools/ <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/tools/>
2015-01-10 00:09 -
KEYS <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/KEYS>
2014-12-22 19:17 41K
cordova-2.9.1-src.zip
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip> 2013-11-05
18:58 13M
cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.asc
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.asc> 2013-11-05
19:42 535
cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.md5
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.md5> 2013-11-05
19:42 72
cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.sha
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.sha> 2013-11-05
19:42 213
The first thing a user sees when they manage to figure out how to get to
this directory from
http://cordova.apache.org/#download
Is 2.9.1-src.stuff
I'm not sure why. The 2.9.1-src stuff appears in the archive area too…
Can someone explain why we shouldn't delete those 4 files from this
directory?
Also, would anyone cry if there was a README or README.md in the
directory? Or something… ?
Lastly, could we please change:
You can find our release zips with corresponding OpenPGPkeys, MD5 and SHA
files on the Apache Cordova dist page
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
To include a download icon before the link?
The style we use for this text / its links is so bad, that I can't find
the link that's actually important.
— it's *EASIER* for me to find "the archive
<http://archive.apache.org/dist/cordova/>" (because the sentence is
shorter)
— it's easiest for me to find "Our artwork
<http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html>" (about which I can assure you
that 99% of our visitors couldn't care for less)
Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Also - a README sounds like a wonderful idea.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> dist/ is meant to have only the latest release of each component on it. We
> should delete the 2.9.x things. I'll commit that now. They will still be
> available on Apache's archives page.
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com> wrote:
>
>> Steven Gill wrote:
>>
>> >I'd say we clean that section up and at least include
>> >"npm install -g cordova"
>>
>> +1
>>
>
>
Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
dist/ is meant to have only the latest release of each component on it. We
should delete the 2.9.x things. I'll commit that now. They will still be
available on Apache's archives page.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com> wrote:
> Steven Gill wrote:
>
> >I'd say we clean that section up and at least include
> >"npm install -g cordova"
>
> +1
>
Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com>.
Steven Gill wrote:
>I'd say we clean that section up and at least include
>"npm install -g cordova"
+1
Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
I'd say we clean that section up and at least include "npm install -g
cordova"
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) <
panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
> I think this is the "official" distribution. Not sure if Apache recognized
> npm as the official distribution and may be does not guarantee the
> integrity of the package on npm ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Soref [mailto:jsoref@blackberry.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:45 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
>
> Steven Gill wrote:
> >Installing through dist isn't our recommended way to install Cordova. If
> >rather have people have to read the blog than just press a big download
> >button without reading.
>
> Are we required by apache to have this thing?
>
> Because, I'd rather have something that says "run `npm install cordova`"
> than the rather notable download thing that takes me to a useless /
> confusing section -- this is from the main http://cordova.apache.org/ page:
>
> DOWNLOAD Cordova version 4.0.0 <http://cordova.apache.org/#download>
>
> Clicking the download button-link-thing takes you to:
>
> Download & Archives
> It is recommended that the cordova CLI be installed from npm rather than
> downloading this .zip version.
>
> ^ note that there is no explanation here about how to use npm to install
> cordova (or how to get npm)
>
> For more information on installing the npm version see the Command-Line
> Interface
> <
> http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/4.0.0//guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Com
> mand-Line%20Interface> section of the documentation.
>
> ^ well, there's this, but it's TL;DR
>
> You can find our release zips with corresponding OpenPGPkeys, MD5 and SHA
> files on the Apache Cordova dist page
> <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
> Our artwork <http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html> is also available.
> Older versions can be downloaded from the archive
> <http://archive.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
>
> This entire section is really poorly organized. :(
>
RE: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by "Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH)" <pa...@microsoft.com>.
I think this is the "official" distribution. Not sure if Apache recognized npm as the official distribution and may be does not guarantee the integrity of the package on npm ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Soref [mailto:jsoref@blackberry.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:45 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Steven Gill wrote:
>Installing through dist isn't our recommended way to install Cordova. If
>rather have people have to read the blog than just press a big download
>button without reading.
Are we required by apache to have this thing?
Because, I'd rather have something that says "run `npm install cordova`"
than the rather notable download thing that takes me to a useless /
confusing section — this is from the main http://cordova.apache.org/ page:
DOWNLOAD Cordova version 4.0.0 <http://cordova.apache.org/#download>
Clicking the download button-link-thing takes you to:
Download & Archives
It is recommended that the cordova CLI be installed from npm rather than
downloading this .zip version.
^ note that there is no explanation here about how to use npm to install
cordova (or how to get npm)
For more information on installing the npm version see the Command-Line
Interface
<http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/4.0.0//guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Com
mand-Line%20Interface> section of the documentation.
^ well, there's this, but it's TL;DR
You can find our release zips with corresponding OpenPGPkeys, MD5 and SHA
files on the Apache Cordova dist page
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
Our artwork <http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html> is also available.
Older versions can be downloaded from the archive
<http://archive.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
This entire section is really poorly organized. :(
Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by Josh Soref <js...@blackberry.com>.
Steven Gill wrote:
>Installing through dist isn't our recommended way to install Cordova. If
>rather have people have to read the blog than just press a big download
>button without reading.
Are we required by apache to have this thing?
Because, I'd rather have something that says "run `npm install cordova`"
than the rather notable download thing that takes me to a useless /
confusing section — this is from the main http://cordova.apache.org/ page:
DOWNLOAD Cordova version 4.0.0 <http://cordova.apache.org/#download>
Clicking the download button-link-thing takes you to:
Download & Archives
It is recommended that the cordova CLI be installed from npm rather than
downloading this .zip version.
^ note that there is no explanation here about how to use npm to install
cordova (or how to get npm)
For more information on installing the npm version see the Command-Line
Interface
<http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/4.0.0//guide_cli_index.md.html#The%20Com
mand-Line%20Interface> section of the documentation.
^ well, there's this, but it's TL;DR
You can find our release zips with corresponding OpenPGPkeys, MD5 and SHA
files on the Apache Cordova dist page
<https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
Our artwork <http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html> is also available.
Older versions can be downloaded from the archive
<http://archive.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
This entire section is really poorly organized. :(
Re: https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/
Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
Installing through dist isn't our recommended way to install Cordova. If
rather have people have to read the blog than just press a big download
button without reading.
Feel free to remove 2.9.1 stuff.
On Jan 12, 2015 11:30 AM, "Josh Soref" <js...@blackberry.com> wrote:
> So, the structure of the https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/ directory is
> odd:
>
> platforms/ <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/platforms/>
> 2015-01-10 00:11 -
> plugins/ <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/plugins/>
> 2014-12-30 05:04 -
> tools/ <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/tools/>
> 2015-01-10 00:09 -
> KEYS <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/KEYS>
> 2014-12-22 19:17 41K
> cordova-2.9.1-src.zip
> <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip> 2013-11-05
> 18:58 13M
> cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.asc
> <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.asc> 2013-11-05
> 19:42 535
> cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.md5
> <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.md5> 2013-11-05
> 19:42 72
> cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.sha
> <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/cordova-2.9.1-src.zip.sha> 2013-11-05
> 19:42 213
>
> The first thing a user sees when they manage to figure out how to get to
> this directory from
> http://cordova.apache.org/#download
>
> Is 2.9.1-src.stuff
>
> I'm not sure why. The 2.9.1-src stuff appears in the archive area too...
>
> Can someone explain why we shouldn't delete those 4 files from this
> directory?
>
> Also, would anyone cry if there was a README or README.md in the
> directory? Or something... ?
>
> Lastly, could we please change:
>
> You can find our release zips with corresponding OpenPGPkeys, MD5 and SHA
> files on the Apache Cordova dist page
> <https://www.apache.org/dist/cordova/>.
>
> To include a download icon before the link?
>
>
> The style we use for this text / its links is so bad, that I can't find
> the link that's actually important.
>
> -- it's *EASIER* for me to find "the archive
> <http://archive.apache.org/dist/cordova/>" (because the sentence is
> shorter)
> -- it's easiest for me to find "Our artwork
> <http://cordova.apache.org/artwork.html>" (about which I can assure you
> that 99% of our visitors couldn't care for less)
>