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Posted to users@jena.apache.org by Matt Whitby <ma...@gmail.com> on 2021/07/24 11:37:41 UTC

Ordering

Not specifically a Jena question, but we'll have a requirement at some
point to order a set of triples in a given order (not alphabetical). Would
it be that we'd require some sort of ranking number attached to the triple
via a node or somesuch?

Parent Item > List of Related Items > Each Paired with Ranking ID.

[image: image.png]

Re: Ordering

Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.

On 26/07/2021 08:01, Matt Whitby wrote:
> Ah, well it was a pretty unhelpful diagram.
> 
> For a given subject we will have lists of sources.
> 
> <http://heritageengland.org.uk/dataset/monuments/monument/meta/id/1000824>
>   ns1:website "War Memorials Online,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/137280",
>          "War Memorials Online,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/77464",
>          "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47501",
>          "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47502",
>          "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47503",
>          "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47504",
>          "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
> http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/59537" .
> 
> 
> We could display the linked websites in a particular order which is not
> necessarily alphabetical, so I'd want to basically hold an attribute for
> each (i.e. A Ranking Order).
> 
> Do you think it might be a case of using a bNode for each then off the back
> of that having the Source and Rank?

That's one way.

If the access record "War Memorials Online,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/137280" is important then 
making it a first class item in the data is usually the thing to do for 
some future requirement.

Another is to use a list.

     Andy



> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 22:36, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Matt - images (here, as multipart attachments) don't get passed on by
>> the list.
>>
>> On 24/07/2021 12:37, Matt Whitby wrote:
>>>
>>> Not specifically a Jena question, but we'll have a requirement at some
>>> point to order a set of triples in a given order (not alphabetical).
>>> Would it be that we'd require some sort of ranking number attached to
>>> the triple via a node or somesuch?
>>>
>>> Parent Item > List of Related Items > Each Paired with Ranking ID.
>>>
>>> image.png
>>
> 
> 

Re: Ordering

Posted by Matt Whitby <ma...@gmail.com>.
Ah, well it was a pretty unhelpful diagram.

For a given subject we will have lists of sources.

<http://heritageengland.org.uk/dataset/monuments/monument/meta/id/1000824>
 ns1:website "War Memorials Online,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/137280",
        "War Memorials Online,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/77464",
        "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47501",
        "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47502",
        "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47503",
        "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/47504",
        "War Memorials Register,  accessed 10 July 2017 from
http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/59537" .


We could display the linked websites in a particular order which is not
necessarily alphabetical, so I'd want to basically hold an attribute for
each (i.e. A Ranking Order).

Do you think it might be a case of using a bNode for each then off the back
of that having the Source and Rank?


On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 22:36, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:

> Matt - images (here, as multipart attachments) don't get passed on by
> the list.
>
> On 24/07/2021 12:37, Matt Whitby wrote:
> >
> > Not specifically a Jena question, but we'll have a requirement at some
> > point to order a set of triples in a given order (not alphabetical).
> > Would it be that we'd require some sort of ranking number attached to
> > the triple via a node or somesuch?
> >
> > Parent Item > List of Related Items > Each Paired with Ranking ID.
> >
> > image.png
>


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Re: Ordering

Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
Matt - images (here, as multipart attachments) don't get passed on by 
the list.

On 24/07/2021 12:37, Matt Whitby wrote:
>
> Not specifically a Jena question, but we'll have a requirement at some 
> point to order a set of triples in a given order (not alphabetical). 
> Would it be that we'd require some sort of ranking number attachedĀ to 
> the triple via a nodeĀ or somesuch?
>
> Parent Item > List of Related Items > Each Paired with Ranking ID.
>
> image.png