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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> on 2020/09/10 02:18:11 UTC

[All] About Commons snapshot versions

Hi all,

I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
have not been updated for some time.

Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often do we do that?
cheers,
Lee

Re: [All] About Commons snapshot versions

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
For Commons I would say that the Maven snapshot repo is the most important.

Gary

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 6:15 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Note that Infra recently introduced
>
> https://nightlies.apache.org
>
> so presumably it is OK to generate such builds.
>
> Also there is an official ASF Maven snapshot repo listed in the ASF parent
> pom:
> https://repository.apache.org/snapshots
>
> However it is important not to promote such builds to the general public.
> They must not be referenced from download pages or the like.
> They can be mentioned on pages intended for developers only, eg. if
> they wish to help with testing.
> It needs to be made clear that any such builds are AS IS and may
> disappear at any time.
>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 13:45, Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:18 AM Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
> > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
> > > have not been updated for some time.
> > >
> > > Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often
> do we do that?
> > > cheers,
> >
> > In my opinion, we don't. If we did, that would be way too close to
> > endorsing non-official releases.
> >
> > Jochen
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> > you break 'em.
> >
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Re: [All] About Commons snapshot versions

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
Note that Infra recently introduced

https://nightlies.apache.org

so presumably it is OK to generate such builds.

Also there is an official ASF Maven snapshot repo listed in the ASF parent pom:
https://repository.apache.org/snapshots

However it is important not to promote such builds to the general public.
They must not be referenced from download pages or the like.
They can be mentioned on pages intended for developers only, eg. if
they wish to help with testing.
It needs to be made clear that any such builds are AS IS and may
disappear at any time.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 13:45, Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:18 AM Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
> > have not been updated for some time.
> >
> > Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often do we do that?
> > cheers,
>
> In my opinion, we don't. If we did, that would be way too close to
> endorsing non-official releases.
>
> Jochen
>
>
> --
>
> Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before
> you break 'em.
>
>     -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time)
>
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Re: [All] About Commons snapshot versions

Posted by Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 4:18 AM Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
> have not been updated for some time.
>
> Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often do we do that?
> cheers,

In my opinion, we don't. If we did, that would be way too close to
endorsing non-official releases.

Jochen


-- 

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you break 'em.

    -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time)

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Re: [All] About Commons snapshot versions

Posted by Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello.

2020-09-10 4:53 UTC+02:00, Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org>:
>> The builds.apache.org CI builds did that if they were set up to do so.
>>
>
> Is this implemented by a mvn deploy or some other ways(a jenkins plugins or
> some other things)?

"Goals and options" item in the "Build" section of the "Configure"
menu of the "commons-rng" Jenkins project:
---CUT---
-e -V clean deploy --batch-mode -Dgpg.skip -Pjava-1.6
---CUT---

>> A migration to a new build system just took place and I don't know if we
>> have
>> Commons builds on the new CI system yet.
>>
>
> Seems some Commons components(like vfs and lang) have not migrated to the
> new ci-builds.apache.org.

There were several reminders from INFRA, and offers (by
Alex[1] and by me[2]) to run the migration script.

The old configuration files are still available from INFRA.

> Do we need to have some CI build to publish
> snapshot versions?

Jenkins provides that functionality.
But currently there is an issue with several projects there.[3][4]

Regards,
Gilles

[1] https://markmail.org/message/l5j7xuojdc4i3ndk
[2] https://markmail.org/message/3mq7stvi2jernqyn
[3] https://markmail.org/message/qls3lpr5xf3p63df
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20796

>
> Lee
> On 9 10 2020, at 10:40, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The builds.apache.org CI builds did that if they were set up to do so. A
>> migration to a new build system just took place and I don't know if we
>> have
>> Commons builds on the new CI system yet.
>>
>> Gary
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 22:18 Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
>> > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
>> > have not been updated for some time.
>> >
>> > Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often do
>> > we
>> > do that?
>> > cheers,
>> > Lee
>> >
>>
>
>

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Re: [All] About Commons snapshot versions

Posted by Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org>.
> The builds.apache.org CI builds did that if they were set up to do so.
>

Is this implemented by a mvn deploy or some other ways(a jenkins plugins or some other things)?

> A migration to a new build system just took place and I don't know if we have
> Commons builds on the new CI system yet.
>

Seems some Commons components(like vfs and lang) have not migrated to the new ci-builds.apache.org. Do we need to have some CI build to publish snapshot versions?

Lee
On 9 10 2020, at 10:40, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The builds.apache.org CI builds did that if they were set up to do so. A
> migration to a new build system just took place and I don't know if we have
> Commons builds on the new CI system yet.
>
> Gary
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 22:18 Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
> > have not been updated for some time.
> >
> > Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often do we
> > do that?
> > cheers,
> > Lee
> >
>


Re: [All] About Commons snapshot versions

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
The builds.apache.org CI builds did that if they were set up to do so. A
migration to a new build system just took place and I don't know if we have
Commons builds on the new CI system yet.

Gary

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 22:18 Peter Lee <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I noticed that some Commons components snapshot versions released in
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/commons
> have not been updated for some time.
>
> Just curious about how do we publish snapshot versions and how often do we
> do that?
> cheers,
> Lee
>