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Posted to dev@royale.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.INVALID> on 2018/01/12 17:08:48 UTC
PLAYERGLOBAL requirement (was Re: Apache Royale website is live!!)
If you grab the jsonly package do you have the same problem?
Maybe we need to change the package names. I realized the other day that
I originally proposed to put 'flexjs' in the package name and hadn't
gotten around to that. Then we also discussed putting output format in
the package names.
Either way, IMO, this sort of information should be on the getting started
pages and should be in the README in the package.
My 2 cents,
-Alex
On 1/12/18, 12:22 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Guys,
>
>There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website. If I
>have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
>etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
>"Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
>playerglobal.swc.
>
>That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user have
>to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to do
>that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
>
>- As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
>folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
>- Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
>"InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
>- Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
>
>Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
>
>Thanks, Piotr
>
>
>2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this
>>task
>> needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work as
>> good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
>>visuals
>> to adapt to what they need!)
>> :)
>>
>> 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>>
>> > Hi -
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira
>><ca...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Alex
>> > >
>> > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Carlos,
>> > >>
>> > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's
>> > changes.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > thanks for your words :)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in
>> > Royale
>> > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye
>>of
>> > > people too soon.
>> > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
>>thinking of
>> > > release web ASAP :)
>> > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to
>>save
>> > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
>>But,
>> > IMO,
>> > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of
>>our
>> > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
>>align
>> > with
>> > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
>> marketing
>> > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on
>>what
>> is
>> > > really important.
>> > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to
>>see in
>> > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
>> > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
>>another,
>> > it'd
>> > > be a useless work.
>> > >
>> > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good,
>>and
>> > > people like Royale.
>> > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
>>since
>> > the
>> > > important task are done.
>> > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
>>(first
>> > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
>> > >
>> > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to
>> help
>> > > with website in the same way we do here
>> > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list,
>> > Github,
>> > > or other tool? The important thing is that
>> > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo.
>> That's
>> > > is what Apache ask us to do.
>> > >
>> > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can
>>still
>> > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
>> > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and
>> more,
>> > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
>> > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be
>> done
>> > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
>> > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make
>>in
>> > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
>> > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
>> notepad.
>> > >
>> > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here
>>to
>> > make
>> > > Apache Royale!
>> > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result
>>we
>> > have
>> > > now with something made by hand by us.
>> > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale
>>to
>> > make
>> > > website, is about to compite with years
>> > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
>>websites.
>> > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
>> > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
>>royale
>> > web
>> > > site that compites with the actual one,
>> > > but maybe in the future.
>> > >
>> > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
>>thanks to
>> > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
>> > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that
>> works
>> > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with
>> > Andrew
>> > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is
>> about
>> > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in
>>the
>> > > end,
>> > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech
>>that
>> in
>> > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some
>> years
>> > if
>> > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that
>> goal.
>> > >
>> > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want
>>you to
>> > try
>> > > to replicate the website in Royale.
>> > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
>>think,
>> > but
>> > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
>> > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to
>> focus
>> > > on themeing and UI set.
>> >
>> > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
>> > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> -Alex
>> > >>
>> > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>> > Rovira"
>> > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
>>wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Om,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if
>>we
>> can
>> > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
>> > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
>>visual
>> as
>> > our
>> > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
>>will
>> > end in
>> > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
>>etc...
>> > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
>>I'm
>> > very
>> > >>> happy.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
>>way to
>> > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
>> have
>> > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
>>(and
>> > we
>> > >>> have that with GitHub)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala
>><bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> >:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
>> > patches
>> > >>>> and PRs.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
>>from
>> > >>>> Github
>> > >>>> urls. For example
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
>> > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
>> > 40adobe.com
>> > >> %7C
>> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >> cee1%7C0%7
>> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
>> > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
>> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc)
>> can
>> > >>>> be on
>> > >>>> WP.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thoughts?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Om
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
>><ca...@apache.org>
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Hi,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
>> > things
>> > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
>> > changes,
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask
>>for
>> > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
>> > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
>>process
>> is
>> > >>>> to
>> > >>>> :
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
>> > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
>> > >>>> updates
>> > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
>> > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
>> > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
>> do.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Hi -
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
>> > >>>> updates.
>> > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
>>make
>> > >>>>> changes.
>> > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
>>Later
>> > >>>> either
>> > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
>> process,
>> > >>>> or
>> > >>>>> you
>> > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
>>then
>> > >>>>> published.
>> > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
>> > >>>> create
>> > >>>> an
>> > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
>>RSS
>> > >>>> feed
>> > >>>>> into
>> > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>> Dave
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Carlos,
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
>>really
>> > >>>> good.
>> > >>>>> We
>> > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
>> > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
>> admin
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>>>> then
>> > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
>> > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
>>in WP
>> > >>>>> backend
>> > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
>> > >>>> ways to
>> > >>>>> do
>> > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
>> > >>>> Request
>> > >>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
>> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
>> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
>> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
>> > >> mD
>> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
>> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
>>how
>> > >>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>> website
>> > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Om
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
>>post
>> > >>>>>> directly
>> > >>>>>>>>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
>> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
>> > >>>> something
>> > >>>>>>>> like
>> > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
>> drive...)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
>>that
>> > >>>> file
>> > >>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>> some
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
>> pull
>> > >>>>>>>> request
>> > >>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
>> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
>> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
>> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
>> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
>> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
>> > >> mD
>> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
>> > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer
>>to
>> > >>>> create
>> > >>>>>>>>>> table
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
>> > >>>> share
>> > >>>>>>>> that.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Can
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
>>screenshot
>> > >>>> it
>> > >>>>>>>> can
>> > >>>>>>>>> be
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
>> > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
>> > 40adobe.com
>> > >> %7C
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>> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
>> > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
>> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
>> > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
>>there. Is
>> > >>>>>>>>> someone
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >>
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
>> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
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>> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
>> > >> A%2F
>> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
>> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
>> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
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>> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
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>> > >>>> ed=0
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
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>> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>> > >>>> ed=0>*
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
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>> > >> 7C63651220757758276
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>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
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>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
>> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
>> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>> > >>>> ed=0
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
>> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
>> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
>> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
>> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
>> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
>> > >>>> ed=0>*
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
>> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
>> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
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>> > >> 7C63651220757758276
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>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Carlos Rovira
>> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
>> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Carlos Rovira
>> > >
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>>
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>> --
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>>
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>
>
>--
>
>Piotr Zarzycki
>
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Re: PLAYERGLOBAL requirement (was Re: Apache Royale website is live!!)
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Piotr,
just done right now
thanks
2018-01-14 13:49 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Carlos,
>
> I'm still thinking that maybe Getting Started should be in the main menu
> and Try It Now more hidden. - It's not ready yet.
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
> 2018-01-14 13:46 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
>
> > Hi, if you want that I help inserting something in "Getting Started" let
> me
> > about the text and where to insert it.
> >
> > You can as well insert it yourself if you want. Choose whatever you feel
> > more confortable
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > 2018-01-12 18:29 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Alex,
> > >
> > > I don't have such problems in case of jsonly package. Agree that it
> have
> > to
> > > be in the Readme and Getting Started.
> > >
> > > Readme talking only about building Royale, but definitely have to have
> > > section how to use it.
> > >
> > > I'm ok with both options Flexjs and output. In case of that I'm for
> > voting.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 18:09 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you grab the jsonly package do you have the same problem?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we need to change the package names. I realized the other day
> > that
> > > > I originally proposed to put 'flexjs' in the package name and hadn't
> > > > gotten around to that. Then we also discussed putting output format
> in
> > > > the package names.
> > > >
> > > > Either way, IMO, this sort of information should be on the getting
> > > started
> > > > pages and should be in the README in the package.
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > -Alex
> > > >
> > > > On 1/12/18, 12:22 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the
> website.
> > > If I
> > > > >have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > > >etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile
> some
> > > > >"Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > > >playerglobal.swc.
> > > > >
> > > > >That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that
> user
> > > have
> > > > >to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps
> > to
> > > do
> > > > >that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > > > >
> > > > >- As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > > > >folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > > > >- Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > > >"InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > > >- Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > > > >
> > > > >Where on the website such information do you think should be placed
> ?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Dave,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say,
> this
> > > > >>task
> > > > >> needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components
> > work
> > > as
> > > > >> good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to
> change
> > > > >>visuals
> > > > >> to adapt to what they need!)
> > > > >> :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hi -
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira
> > > > >><ca...@apache.org>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Hi Alex
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui
> <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> > >:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> > > Andrew's
> > > > >> > changes.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > thanks for your words :)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website
> > done
> > > in
> > > > >> > Royale
> > > > >> > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the
> > eye
> > > > >>of
> > > > >> > > people too soon.
> > > > >> > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > > > >>thinking of
> > > > >> > > release web ASAP :)
> > > > >> > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one
> brain
> > > ;)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were
> able
> > to
> > > > >>save
> > > > >> > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for
> us.
> > > > >>But,
> > > > >> > IMO,
> > > > >> > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the
> rest
> > > of
> > > > >>our
> > > > >> > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going
> to
> > > > >>align
> > > > >> > with
> > > > >> > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that
> the
> > > > >> marketing
> > > > >> > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the
> > project.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus
> on
> > > > >>what
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> > > really important.
> > > > >> > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect
> to
> > > > >>see in
> > > > >> > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > > >> > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> > > > >>another,
> > > > >> > it'd
> > > > >> > > be a useless work.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working
> > > good,
> > > > >>and
> > > > >> > > people like Royale.
> > > > >> > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the
> site,
> > > > >>since
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > important task are done.
> > > > >> > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's
> important
> > > > >>(first
> > > > >> > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and
> > others)
> > > to
> > > > >> help
> > > > >> > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > > >> > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing
> > > list,
> > > > >> > Github,
> > > > >> > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > > >> > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site
> > repo.
> > > > >> That's
> > > > >> > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people
> > can
> > > > >>still
> > > > >> > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > > >> > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations,
> layouts
> > > and
> > > > >> more,
> > > > >> > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > > >> > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more,
> > could
> > > be
> > > > >> done
> > > > >> > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > > >> > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you
> > > make
> > > > >>in
> > > > >> > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > > >> > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less
> with
> > > > >> notepad.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are
> > > here
> > > > >>to
> > > > >> > make
> > > > >> > > Apache Royale!
> > > > >> > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same
> > > result
> > > > >>we
> > > > >> > have
> > > > >> > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > > >> > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of
> > > royale
> > > > >>to
> > > > >> > make
> > > > >> > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > > >> > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > > > >>websites.
> > > > >> > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > > >> > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us
> a
> > > > >>royale
> > > > >> > web
> > > > >> > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > > >> > > but maybe in the future.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> > > > >>thanks to
> > > > >> > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > > >> > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if
> > that
> > > > >> works
> > > > >> > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing
> > > with
> > > > >> > Andrew
> > > > >> > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> > content...is
> > > > >> about
> > > > >> > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible
> since,
> > > in
> > > > >>the
> > > > >> > > end,
> > > > >> > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end
> tech
> > > > >>that
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in
> > some
> > > > >> years
> > > > >> > if
> > > > >> > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach
> > > that
> > > > >> goal.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't
> want
> > > > >>you to
> > > > >> > try
> > > > >> > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > > >> > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what
> I
> > > > >>think,
> > > > >> > but
> > > > >> > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to
> > do.
> > > > >> > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again,
> is
> > > to
> > > > >> focus
> > > > >> > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If
> > Royale
> > > > >> > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Regards,
> > > > >> > Dave
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> > >> -Alex
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> > > Carlos
> > > > >> > Rovira"
> > > > >> > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > > > >>wrote:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>> Hi Om,
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to
> see
> > if
> > > > >>we
> > > > >> can
> > > > >> > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > > >> > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> > > > >>visual
> > > > >> as
> > > > >> > our
> > > > >> > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors
> that
> > > > >>will
> > > > >> > end in
> > > > >> > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> > > > >>etc...
> > > > >> > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from
> GitHub.
> > So
> > > > >>I'm
> > > > >> > very
> > > > >> > >>> happy.
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an
> easy
> > > > >>way to
> > > > >> > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles
> published
> > > (we
> > > > >> have
> > > > >> > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and
> > Docs
> > > > >>(and
> > > > >> > we
> > > > >> > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > > >><bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > >> >:
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> > > content,
> > > > >> > patches
> > > > >> > >>>> and PRs.
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown
> > files
> > > > >>from
> > > > >> > >>>> Github
> > > > >> > >>>> urls. For example
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > > >> > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%
> 7Caharui%
> > > > >> > 40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7C
> > > > >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > > >> > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > > >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles,
> images,
> > > etc)
> > > > >> can
> > > > >> > >>>> be on
> > > > >> > >>>> WP.
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> Om
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
> > > > >><ca...@apache.org>
> > > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> > > check
> > > > >> > things
> > > > >> > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced
> > all
> > > > >> > changes,
> > > > >> > >>>> and
> > > > >> > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes
> and
> > > ask
> > > > >>for
> > > > >> > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> > > PMCs)
> > > > >> > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > > > >>process
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> > >>>> to
> > > > >> > >>>> :
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > > >> > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> > > theme
> > > > >> > >>>> updates
> > > > >> > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > > >> > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > > >> > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is
> > easy
> > > to
> > > > >> do.
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> > dave2wave@comcast.net
> > > >:
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> > > content
> > > > >> > >>>> updates.
> > > > >> > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer
> > to
> > > > >>make
> > > > >> > >>>>> changes.
> > > > >> > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and
> > update.
> > > > >>Later
> > > > >> > >>>> either
> > > > >> > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a
> build
> > > > >> process,
> > > > >> > >>>> or
> > > > >> > >>>>> you
> > > > >> > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that
> is
> > > > >>then
> > > > >> > >>>>> published.
> > > > >> > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job
> > is
> > > to
> > > > >> > >>>> create
> > > > >> > >>>> an
> > > > >> > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from
> > the
> > > > >>RSS
> > > > >> > >>>> feed
> > > > >> > >>>>> into
> > > > >> > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > >> > >>>>>> Dave
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >> > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> > > > >>really
> > > > >> > >>>> good.
> > > > >> > >>>>> We
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> > through
> > > > >> admin
> > > > >> > >>>> and
> > > > >> > >>>>>> then
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> > register
> > > > >>in WP
> > > > >> > >>>>> backend
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> > > some
> > > > >> > >>>> ways to
> > > > >> > >>>>> do
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > >> > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > > >> > >>>>>> :
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send
> a
> > > Pull
> > > > >> > >>>> Request
> > > > >> > >>>>> to
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > >> > >> mD
> > > > >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current
> state
> > of
> > > > >>how
> > > > >> > >>>> the
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> website
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >> > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list
> > and
> > > > >>post
> > > > >> > >>>>>> directly
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a
> PDF
> > > or
> > > > >> > >>>> something
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> like
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > > > >> drive...)
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> :
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just
> upload
> > > > >>that
> > > > >> > >>>> file
> > > > >> > >>>> to
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> > > make
> > > > >> pull
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> request
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > > >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > > >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > > >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > > >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > > >> > >> mD
> > > > >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >> > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> > > prefer
> > > > >>to
> > > > >> > >>>> create
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if
> any)
> > > and
> > > > >> > >>>> share
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > > > >>screenshot
> > > > >> > >>>> it
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> can
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > > >> > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%
> 7Caharui%
> > > > >> > 40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7C
> > > > >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > > >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > > >> > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > > >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > >> > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > > > >>there. Is
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> c
> > > > >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > >> > >> A%2F
> > > > >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > > >>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > >>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636513421850976562&
> > > sdata=ytL1XfBX0dSn5zQ
> > > > >>GF3LzNuCZiTX%2BA7uU1WoCfBCkS4A%3D&reserved=0&data=02%
> > > > >> > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > > >> > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > > >> > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > > >> > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > > >> > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > > >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > > >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > > >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > > >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> c
> > > > >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > > >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > > >> > >> A%2F
> > > > >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki
> <
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live
> now!
> > :)
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > >> reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > > >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > > >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > > >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%
> 2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > > >> reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>> --
> > > > >> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>>>>
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> --
> > > > >> > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > > >> > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > > >> > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > > >> > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > > >> > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> > > > >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > 7C63651342185097656
> > > > >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvka
> McqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> > > > >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > 7C63651342185097656
> > > > >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvka
> McqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >
> > > > >Piotr Zarzycki
> > > > >
> > > > >Patreon:
> > > > >*
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> > > > >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> > > > >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&
> > > reserved=0
> > > > ><
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> > > > >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> > > > >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&
> > > reserved=0
> > > > >>*
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: PLAYERGLOBAL requirement (was Re: Apache Royale website is live!!)
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Carlos,
I'm still thinking that maybe Getting Started should be in the main menu
and Try It Now more hidden. - It's not ready yet.
Thanks, Piotr
2018-01-14 13:46 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> Hi, if you want that I help inserting something in "Getting Started" let me
> about the text and where to insert it.
>
> You can as well insert it yourself if you want. Choose whatever you feel
> more confortable
>
> thanks
>
> 2018-01-12 18:29 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Alex,
> >
> > I don't have such problems in case of jsonly package. Agree that it have
> to
> > be in the Readme and Getting Started.
> >
> > Readme talking only about building Royale, but definitely have to have
> > section how to use it.
> >
> > I'm ok with both options Flexjs and output. In case of that I'm for
> voting.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 18:09 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > If you grab the jsonly package do you have the same problem?
> > >
> > > Maybe we need to change the package names. I realized the other day
> that
> > > I originally proposed to put 'flexjs' in the package name and hadn't
> > > gotten around to that. Then we also discussed putting output format in
> > > the package names.
> > >
> > > Either way, IMO, this sort of information should be on the getting
> > started
> > > pages and should be in the README in the package.
> > >
> > > My 2 cents,
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > > On 1/12/18, 12:22 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Guys,
> > > >
> > > >There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website.
> > If I
> > > >have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> > PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > > >etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
> > > >"Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > > >playerglobal.swc.
> > > >
> > > >That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user
> > have
> > > >to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps
> to
> > do
> > > >that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > > >
> > > >- As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > > >folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > > >- Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > > >"InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > > >- Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > > >
> > > >Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks, Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Dave,
> > > >>
> > > >> Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this
> > > >>task
> > > >> needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components
> work
> > as
> > > >> good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> > > >>visuals
> > > >> to adapt to what they need!)
> > > >> :)
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi -
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira
> > > >><ca...@apache.org>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hi Alex
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid
> >:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> > Andrew's
> > > >> > changes.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > thanks for your words :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website
> done
> > in
> > > >> > Royale
> > > >> > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the
> eye
> > > >>of
> > > >> > > people too soon.
> > > >> > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > > >>thinking of
> > > >> > > release web ASAP :)
> > > >> > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain
> > ;)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able
> to
> > > >>save
> > > >> > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
> > > >>But,
> > > >> > IMO,
> > > >> > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest
> > of
> > > >>our
> > > >> > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
> > > >>align
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> > > >> marketing
> > > >> > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the
> project.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on
> > > >>what
> > > >> is
> > > >> > > really important.
> > > >> > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to
> > > >>see in
> > > >> > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > > >> > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> > > >>another,
> > > >> > it'd
> > > >> > > be a useless work.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working
> > good,
> > > >>and
> > > >> > > people like Royale.
> > > >> > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
> > > >>since
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > important task are done.
> > > >> > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
> > > >>(first
> > > >> > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and
> others)
> > to
> > > >> help
> > > >> > > with website in the same way we do here
> > > >> > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing
> > list,
> > > >> > Github,
> > > >> > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > > >> > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site
> repo.
> > > >> That's
> > > >> > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people
> can
> > > >>still
> > > >> > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > > >> > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts
> > and
> > > >> more,
> > > >> > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > > >> > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more,
> could
> > be
> > > >> done
> > > >> > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > > >> > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you
> > make
> > > >>in
> > > >> > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > > >> > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> > > >> notepad.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are
> > here
> > > >>to
> > > >> > make
> > > >> > > Apache Royale!
> > > >> > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same
> > result
> > > >>we
> > > >> > have
> > > >> > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > > >> > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of
> > royale
> > > >>to
> > > >> > make
> > > >> > > website, is about to compite with years
> > > >> > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > > >>websites.
> > > >> > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > > >> > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> > > >>royale
> > > >> > web
> > > >> > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > > >> > > but maybe in the future.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> > > >>thanks to
> > > >> > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > > >> > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if
> that
> > > >> works
> > > >> > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing
> > with
> > > >> > Andrew
> > > >> > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about
> content...is
> > > >> about
> > > >> > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since,
> > in
> > > >>the
> > > >> > > end,
> > > >> > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech
> > > >>that
> > > >> in
> > > >> > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in
> some
> > > >> years
> > > >> > if
> > > >> > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach
> > that
> > > >> goal.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want
> > > >>you to
> > > >> > try
> > > >> > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > > >> > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> > > >>think,
> > > >> > but
> > > >> > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to
> do.
> > > >> > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is
> > to
> > > >> focus
> > > >> > > on themeing and UI set.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If
> Royale
> > > >> > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > Dave
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > >> > >> -Alex
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> > Carlos
> > > >> > Rovira"
> > > >> > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > > >>wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> Hi Om,
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see
> if
> > > >>we
> > > >> can
> > > >> > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > > >> > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> > > >>visual
> > > >> as
> > > >> > our
> > > >> > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> > > >>will
> > > >> > end in
> > > >> > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> > > >>etc...
> > > >> > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub.
> So
> > > >>I'm
> > > >> > very
> > > >> > >>> happy.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
> > > >>way to
> > > >> > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published
> > (we
> > > >> have
> > > >> > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and
> Docs
> > > >>(and
> > > >> > we
> > > >> > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > >><bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > >> >:
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> > content,
> > > >> > patches
> > > >> > >>>> and PRs.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown
> files
> > > >>from
> > > >> > >>>> Github
> > > >> > >>>> urls. For example
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > > >> > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > >> > 40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7C
> > > >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > > >> > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > > >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> > etc)
> > > >> can
> > > >> > >>>> be on
> > > >> > >>>> WP.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Om
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
> > > >><ca...@apache.org>
> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> Hi,
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> > check
> > > >> > things
> > > >> > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced
> all
> > > >> > changes,
> > > >> > >>>> and
> > > >> > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and
> > ask
> > > >>for
> > > >> > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> > PMCs)
> > > >> > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > > >>process
> > > >> is
> > > >> > >>>> to
> > > >> > >>>> :
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > > >> > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> > theme
> > > >> > >>>> updates
> > > >> > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > > >> > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > > >> > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is
> easy
> > to
> > > >> do.
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> Thanks
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <
> dave2wave@comcast.net
> > >:
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> Hi -
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> > content
> > > >> > >>>> updates.
> > > >> > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer
> to
> > > >>make
> > > >> > >>>>> changes.
> > > >> > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and
> update.
> > > >>Later
> > > >> > >>>> either
> > > >> > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > > >> process,
> > > >> > >>>> or
> > > >> > >>>>> you
> > > >> > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> > > >>then
> > > >> > >>>>> published.
> > > >> > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job
> is
> > to
> > > >> > >>>> create
> > > >> > >>>> an
> > > >> > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from
> the
> > > >>RSS
> > > >> > >>>> feed
> > > >> > >>>>> into
> > > >> > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > >> > >>>>>> Dave
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >> > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> > > >>really
> > > >> > >>>> good.
> > > >> > >>>>> We
> > > >> > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP
> through
> > > >> admin
> > > >> > >>>> and
> > > >> > >>>>>> then
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to
> register
> > > >>in WP
> > > >> > >>>>> backend
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> > some
> > > >> > >>>> ways to
> > > >> > >>>>> do
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > >> > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > >> > >>>>>> :
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> > Pull
> > > >> > >>>> Request
> > > >> > >>>>> to
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > >> > >> mD
> > > >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state
> of
> > > >>how
> > > >> > >>>> the
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> website
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > >> > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list
> and
> > > >>post
> > > >> > >>>>>> directly
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF
> > or
> > > >> > >>>> something
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> like
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > > >> drive...)
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >> > >>>>>>> :
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> > > >>that
> > > >> > >>>> file
> > > >> > >>>> to
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> some
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> > make
> > > >> pull
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> request
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > > >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > > >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > > >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > > >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > > >> > >> mD
> > > >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > > >> > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> > prefer
> > > >>to
> > > >> > >>>> create
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any)
> > and
> > > >> > >>>> share
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> that.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > > >>screenshot
> > > >> > >>>> it
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> can
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > > >> > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > > >> > 40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7C
> > > >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > > >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > > >> > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > > >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > > >> > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > > >>there. Is
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> c
> > > >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > >> > >> A%2F
> > > >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >>
> > > >>
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > www.avast.com&data=02%
> > > >>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > >>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636513421850976562&
> > sdata=ytL1XfBX0dSn5zQ
> > > >>GF3LzNuCZiTX%2BA7uU1WoCfBCkS4A%3D&reserved=0&data=02%
> > > >> > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > > >> > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > > >> > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > > >> > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > > >> > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > > >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > > >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > > >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > > >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> c
> > > >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > > >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > > >> > >> A%2F
> > > >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> > email&utm_content=webmail
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now!
> :)
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > >> reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > > >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > > >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > > >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > > >> reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
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> > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> > 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> --
> > > >> > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > > >> > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > > >> > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > > >> > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > > >> > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> > > >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > 7C63651342185097656
> > > >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvkaMcqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> > > >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > 7C63651342185097656
> > > >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvkaMcqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > >Patreon:
> > > >*
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> > > >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> > > >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&
> > reserved=0
> > > ><
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> > > >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> > > >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&
> > reserved=0
> > > >>*
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
--
Piotr Zarzycki
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Re: PLAYERGLOBAL requirement (was Re: Apache Royale website is live!!)
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi, if you want that I help inserting something in "Getting Started" let me
about the text and where to insert it.
You can as well insert it yourself if you want. Choose whatever you feel
more confortable
thanks
2018-01-12 18:29 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Alex,
>
> I don't have such problems in case of jsonly package. Agree that it have to
> be in the Readme and Getting Started.
>
> Readme talking only about building Royale, but definitely have to have
> section how to use it.
>
> I'm ok with both options Flexjs and output. In case of that I'm for voting.
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 18:09 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > If you grab the jsonly package do you have the same problem?
> >
> > Maybe we need to change the package names. I realized the other day that
> > I originally proposed to put 'flexjs' in the package name and hadn't
> > gotten around to that. Then we also discussed putting output format in
> > the package names.
> >
> > Either way, IMO, this sort of information should be on the getting
> started
> > pages and should be in the README in the package.
> >
> > My 2 cents,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 1/12/18, 12:22 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >Guys,
> > >
> > >There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website.
> If I
> > >have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like
> PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> > >etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
> > >"Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> > >playerglobal.swc.
> > >
> > >That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user
> have
> > >to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to
> do
> > >that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> > >
> > >- As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> > >folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> > >- Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> > >"InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> > >- Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> > >
> > >Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
> > >
> > >Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > >2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > >> Hi Dave,
> > >>
> > >> Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this
> > >>task
> > >> needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work
> as
> > >> good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> > >>visuals
> > >> to adapt to what they need!)
> > >> :)
> > >>
> > >> 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi -
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira
> > >><ca...@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi Alex
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying
> Andrew's
> > >> > changes.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > thanks for your words :)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done
> in
> > >> > Royale
> > >> > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye
> > >>of
> > >> > > people too soon.
> > >> > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> > >>thinking of
> > >> > > release web ASAP :)
> > >> > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain
> ;)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to
> > >>save
> > >> > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
> > >>But,
> > >> > IMO,
> > >> > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest
> of
> > >>our
> > >> > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
> > >>align
> > >> > with
> > >> > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> > >> marketing
> > >> > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on
> > >>what
> > >> is
> > >> > > really important.
> > >> > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to
> > >>see in
> > >> > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> > >> > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> > >>another,
> > >> > it'd
> > >> > > be a useless work.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working
> good,
> > >>and
> > >> > > people like Royale.
> > >> > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
> > >>since
> > >> > the
> > >> > > important task are done.
> > >> > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
> > >>(first
> > >> > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others)
> to
> > >> help
> > >> > > with website in the same way we do here
> > >> > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing
> list,
> > >> > Github,
> > >> > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> > >> > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo.
> > >> That's
> > >> > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can
> > >>still
> > >> > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> > >> > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts
> and
> > >> more,
> > >> > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> > >> > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could
> be
> > >> done
> > >> > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> > >> > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you
> make
> > >>in
> > >> > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> > >> > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> > >> notepad.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are
> here
> > >>to
> > >> > make
> > >> > > Apache Royale!
> > >> > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same
> result
> > >>we
> > >> > have
> > >> > > now with something made by hand by us.
> > >> > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of
> royale
> > >>to
> > >> > make
> > >> > > website, is about to compite with years
> > >> > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> > >>websites.
> > >> > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> > >> > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> > >>royale
> > >> > web
> > >> > > site that compites with the actual one,
> > >> > > but maybe in the future.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> > >>thanks to
> > >> > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> > >> > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that
> > >> works
> > >> > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing
> with
> > >> > Andrew
> > >> > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is
> > >> about
> > >> > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since,
> in
> > >>the
> > >> > > end,
> > >> > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech
> > >>that
> > >> in
> > >> > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some
> > >> years
> > >> > if
> > >> > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach
> that
> > >> goal.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want
> > >>you to
> > >> > try
> > >> > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> > >> > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> > >>think,
> > >> > but
> > >> > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> > >> > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is
> to
> > >> focus
> > >> > > on themeing and UI set.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> > >> > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Dave
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks!
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Thanks,
> > >> > >> -Alex
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of
> Carlos
> > >> > Rovira"
> > >> > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
> > >>wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Hi Om,
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if
> > >>we
> > >> can
> > >> > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> > >> > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> > >>visual
> > >> as
> > >> > our
> > >> > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> > >>will
> > >> > end in
> > >> > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> > >>etc...
> > >> > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
> > >>I'm
> > >> > very
> > >> > >>> happy.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
> > >>way to
> > >> > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published
> (we
> > >> have
> > >> > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
> > >>(and
> > >> > we
> > >> > >>> have that with GitHub)
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala
> > >><bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > >> >:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide
> content,
> > >> > patches
> > >> > >>>> and PRs.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> > >>from
> > >> > >>>> Github
> > >> > >>>> urls. For example
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> > >> > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > >> > 40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7C
> > >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> > >> > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> > >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images,
> etc)
> > >> can
> > >> > >>>> be on
> > >> > >>>> WP.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Om
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
> > >><ca...@apache.org>
> > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to
> check
> > >> > things
> > >> > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> > >> > changes,
> > >> > >>>> and
> > >> > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and
> ask
> > >>for
> > >> > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and
> PMCs)
> > >> > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> > >>process
> > >> is
> > >> > >>>> to
> > >> > >>>> :
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> > >> > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or
> theme
> > >> > >>>> updates
> > >> > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> > >> > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> > >> > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy
> to
> > >> do.
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
> >:
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>> Hi -
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the
> content
> > >> > >>>> updates.
> > >> > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> > >>make
> > >> > >>>>> changes.
> > >> > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> > >>Later
> > >> > >>>> either
> > >> > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> > >> process,
> > >> > >>>> or
> > >> > >>>>> you
> > >> > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> > >>then
> > >> > >>>>> published.
> > >> > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is
> to
> > >> > >>>> create
> > >> > >>>> an
> > >> > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
> > >>RSS
> > >> > >>>> feed
> > >> > >>>>> into
> > >> > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >> > >>>>>> Dave
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> > >>really
> > >> > >>>> good.
> > >> > >>>>> We
> > >> > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> > >> admin
> > >> > >>>> and
> > >> > >>>>>> then
> > >> > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> > >> > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
> > >>in WP
> > >> > >>>>> backend
> > >> > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's
> some
> > >> > >>>> ways to
> > >> > >>>>> do
> > >> > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > >> > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > >> > >>>>>> :
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a
> Pull
> > >> > >>>> Request
> > >> > >>>>> to
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > >> > >> mD
> > >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
> > >>how
> > >> > >>>> the
> > >> > >>>>>>>> website
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Om
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > >> > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
> > >>post
> > >> > >>>>>> directly
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF
> or
> > >> > >>>> something
> > >> > >>>>>>>> like
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> > >> drive...)
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >> > >>>>>>> :
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> > >>that
> > >> > >>>> file
> > >> > >>>> to
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> some
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also
> make
> > >> pull
> > >> > >>>>>>>> request
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> > >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> > >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> > >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> > >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> > >> > >> mD
> > >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would
> prefer
> > >>to
> > >> > >>>> create
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> table
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any)
> and
> > >> > >>>> share
> > >> > >>>>>>>> that.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> > >>screenshot
> > >> > >>>> it
> > >> > >>>>>>>> can
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> be
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> > >> > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> > >> > 40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7C
> > >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> > >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> > >> > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> > >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> > >> > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> > >>there. Is
> > >> > >>>>>>>>> someone
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> c
> > >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > >> > >> A%2F
> > >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> email&utm_content=webmail
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> www.avast.com&data=02%
> > >>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > >>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636513421850976562&
> sdata=ytL1XfBX0dSn5zQ
> > >>GF3LzNuCZiTX%2BA7uU1WoCfBCkS4A%3D&reserved=0&data=02%
> > >> > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> > >> > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> > >> > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> > >> > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> > >> > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> > >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> > >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> > >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> > >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> c
> > >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> > >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> > >> > >> A%2F
> > >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-
> email&utm_content=webmail
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > >> reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> > >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> > >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> > >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> > >> reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> > >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >> > >>>> ed=0
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> > >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> > >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> > >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> > >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> > >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> > >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>> --
> > >> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> > >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> > >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ7
> 1DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> --
> > >> > >>> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> > >> > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> > >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> > >> > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> > >> > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> > >> > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> > >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63651342185097656
> > >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvkaMcqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> > >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> > >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C63651342185097656
> > >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvkaMcqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > >Patreon:
> > >*
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> > >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> > >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&
> reserved=0
> > ><
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> > >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> > %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> > >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> > >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&
> reserved=0
> > >>*
> >
> >
>
--
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira
Re: PLAYERGLOBAL requirement (was Re: Apache Royale website is live!!)
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Alex,
I don't have such problems in case of jsonly package. Agree that it have to
be in the Readme and Getting Started.
Readme talking only about building Royale, but definitely have to have
section how to use it.
I'm ok with both options Flexjs and output. In case of that I'm for voting.
Thanks,
Piotr
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 18:09 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
> If you grab the jsonly package do you have the same problem?
>
> Maybe we need to change the package names. I realized the other day that
> I originally proposed to put 'flexjs' in the package name and hadn't
> gotten around to that. Then we also discussed putting output format in
> the package names.
>
> Either way, IMO, this sort of information should be on the getting started
> pages and should be in the README in the package.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 1/12/18, 12:22 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Guys,
> >
> >There is one thing which I believe we should describe on the website. If I
> >have clean PC - absolutely no environment variables like PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME
> >etc. I download package "apache-royale-0.9.0-bin.zip" and compile some
> >"Hello World" to JS - it will fail complaining that I'm missing
> >playerglobal.swc.
> >
> >That is ok, but we should describe somewhere on the website that user have
> >to download on his own that dependency or use ant script which helps to do
> >that "InstallAdobeSDKs.xml".
> >
> >- As a minimum download on his own playerglobal.swc and put to the
> >folder /frameworks/libs/player/{version of player global folder}
> >- Use ant script which helps to setup all the dependencies
> >"InstallAdobeSDKs.xml"
> >- Setup PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME environment variable
> >
> >Where on the website such information do you think should be placed ?
> >
> >Thanks, Piotr
> >
> >
> >2018-01-11 19:41 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>:
> >
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> Right! Let's see how much I can do in that front. But as I say, this
> >>task
> >> needs the magic of Alex, Peter and others to make the components work as
> >> good as possible and look awesome! (and be able for users to change
> >>visuals
> >> to adapt to what they need!)
> >> :)
> >>
> >> 2018-01-11 19:34 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> >>
> >> > Hi -
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira
> >><ca...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Alex
> >> > >
> >> > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Carlos,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's
> >> > changes.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks for your words :)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in
> >> > Royale
> >> > >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye
> >>of
> >> > > people too soon.
> >> > > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of
> >>thinking of
> >> > > release web ASAP :)
> >> > > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to
> >>save
> >> > >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us.
> >>But,
> >> > IMO,
> >> > >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of
> >>our
> >> > >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to
> >>align
> >> > with
> >> > >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the
> >> marketing
> >> > >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on
> >>what
> >> is
> >> > > really important.
> >> > > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to
> >>see in
> >> > > Royale. We need that ASAP.
> >> > > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for
> >>another,
> >> > it'd
> >> > > be a useless work.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good,
> >>and
> >> > > people like Royale.
> >> > > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site,
> >>since
> >> > the
> >> > > important task are done.
> >> > > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important
> >>(first
> >> > > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...)
> >> > >
> >> > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to
> >> help
> >> > > with website in the same way we do here
> >> > > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list,
> >> > Github,
> >> > > or other tool? The important thing is that
> >> > > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo.
> >> That's
> >> > > is what Apache ask us to do.
> >> > >
> >> > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can
> >>still
> >> > > modify the site. The only problem is that changes
> >> > > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and
> >> more,
> >> > > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources
> >> > > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be
> >> done
> >> > > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision
> >> > > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make
> >>in
> >> > > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight...
> >> > > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with
> >> notepad.
> >> > >
> >> > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here
> >>to
> >> > make
> >> > > Apache Royale!
> >> > > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result
> >>we
> >> > have
> >> > > now with something made by hand by us.
> >> > > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale
> >>to
> >> > make
> >> > > website, is about to compite with years
> >> > > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make
> >>websites.
> >> > > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc..
> >> > > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a
> >>royale
> >> > web
> >> > > site that compites with the actual one,
> >> > > but maybe in the future.
> >> > >
> >> > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time,
> >>thanks to
> >> > > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch
> >> > > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that
> >> works
> >> > > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with
> >> > Andrew
> >> > > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is
> >> about
> >> > > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in
> >>the
> >> > > end,
> >> > > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech
> >>that
> >> in
> >> > > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some
> >> years
> >> > if
> >> > > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that
> >> goal.
> >> > >
> >> > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want
> >>you to
> >> > try
> >> > > to replicate the website in Royale.
> >> > > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I
> >>think,
> >> > but
> >> > > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do.
> >> > > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to
> >> focus
> >> > > on themeing and UI set.
> >> >
> >> > I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale
> >> > achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > >> -Alex
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >> > Rovira"
> >> > >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlosrovira@apache.org>
> >>wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Hi Om,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if
> >>we
> >> can
> >> > >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited.
> >> > >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more
> >>visual
> >> as
> >> > our
> >> > >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that
> >>will
> >> > end in
> >> > >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page,
> >>etc...
> >> > >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So
> >>I'm
> >> > very
> >> > >>> happy.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy
> >>way to
> >> > >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we
> >> have
> >> > >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs
> >>(and
> >> > we
> >> > >>> have that with GitHub)
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala
> >><bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content,
> >> > patches
> >> > >>>> and PRs.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files
> >>from
> >> > >>>> Github
> >> > >>>> urls. For example
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
> >> > >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> >> > 40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7C
> >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD
> >> > >> SDo6aX50kfXkU
> >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc)
> >> can
> >> > >>>> be on
> >> > >>>> WP.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thoughts?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Om
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira"
> >><ca...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> Hi,
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check
> >> > things
> >> > >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all
> >> > changes,
> >> > >>>> and
> >> > >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask
> >>for
> >> > >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs)
> >> > >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the
> >>process
> >> is
> >> > >>>> to
> >> > >>>> :
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version)
> >> > >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme
> >> > >>>> updates
> >> > >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on)
> >> > >>>>> 3.- commit and push
> >> > >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to
> >> do.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Thanks
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Hi -
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content
> >> > >>>> updates.
> >> > >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to
> >>make
> >> > >>>>> changes.
> >> > >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update.
> >>Later
> >> > >>>> either
> >> > >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build
> >> process,
> >> > >>>> or
> >> > >>>>> you
> >> > >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is
> >>then
> >> > >>>>> published.
> >> > >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to
> >> > >>>> create
> >> > >>>> an
> >> > >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the
> >>RSS
> >> > >>>> feed
> >> > >>>>> into
> >> > >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Regards,
> >> > >>>>>> Dave
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > >>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Carlos,
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are
> >>really
> >> > >>>> good.
> >> > >>>>> We
> >> > >>>>>>> could apply them on our self.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira
> >> > >>>> <ca...@apache.org>:
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> Hi Om,
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through
> >> admin
> >> > >>>> and
> >> > >>>>>> then
> >> > >>>>>>>> exported and published.
> >> > >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible.
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register
> >>in WP
> >> > >>>>> backend
> >> > >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some
> >> > >>>> ways to
> >> > >>>>> do
> >> > >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest.
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> > >>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>> :
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull
> >> > >>>> Request
> >> > >>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> >> > >> mD
> >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0.
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of
> >>how
> >> > >>>> the
> >> > >>>>>>>> website
> >> > >>>>>>>>> is being deployed?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > >>>>>>>>> Om
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > >>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and
> >>post
> >> > >>>>>> directly
> >> > >>>>>>>>> in
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or
> >> > >>>> something
> >> > >>>>>>>> like
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google
> >> drive...)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > >>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>> :
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload
> >>that
> >> > >>>> file
> >> > >>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>> some
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make
> >> pull
> >> > >>>>>>>> request
> >> > >>>>>>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c
> >> > >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&
> >> > >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad
> >> > >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> >> > >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%
> >> > 2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA
> >> > >> mD
> >> > >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore
> >> > >>>> <co...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer
> >>to
> >> > >>>> create
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> table
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and
> >> > >>>> share
> >> > >>>>>>>> that.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Can
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some
> >>screenshot
> >> > >>>> it
> >> > >>>>>>>> can
> >> > >>>>>>>>> be
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1]
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro
> >> > >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> >> > 40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7C
> >> > >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7
> >> > >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R
> >> > >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs
> >> > >>>> %3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore <
> >> > >>>> cottage14@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and
> >>there. Is
> >> > >>>>>>>>> someone
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> handling
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text tweaking?
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> c
> >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> >> > >> A%2F
> >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast.com&data=02%
> >>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> >>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636513421850976562&sdata=ytL1XfBX0dSn5zQ
> >>GF3LzNuCZiTX%2BA7uU1WoCfBCkS4A%3D&reserved=0&data=02%
> >> > >>>> 7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587a
> >> > >> db58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b
> >> > >>>> 34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&
> >> > >> sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI
> >> > >>>> w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas
> >> > >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%
> >> > >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado
> >> > >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%
> >> > 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> c
> >> > >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=
> >> zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc
> >> > >> A%2F
> >> > >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :)
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >> > >>>> ed=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> >> reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage14
> >> > >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a4
> >> > >>>> 08d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582
> >> > >>>> 763&sdata=oGuzTsXGtuGDJbxDIBsPhF%2F3MJ9JUPUhuFXLtY69mLY%3D&
> >> reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Patreon:
> >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >> > >>>> ed=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> --
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> Patreon:
> >> > >>>> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >> > >>>> ed=0
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pat
> >> > >>>> reon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> >> > >> %7Ca1f216958a02
> >> > >>>> 4cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >> > >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365122
> >> > >>>> 07577582763&sdata=sEoh%2B2WwiPSvpE237tSGLTauIOin9h8jf
> >> > >> nO7NzxyqWs%3D&reserv
> >> > >>>> ed=0>*
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> --
> >> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >> > >>>> 2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408
> >> > >>>> d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> > >> 7C63651220757758276
> >> > >>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --
> >> > >>> Carlos Rovira
> >> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> >> > >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2
> >> > >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%
> >> > >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5
> >> > >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> >> > >> 7C636512207577582763&s
> >> > >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Carlos Rovira
> >> > >
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63651342185097656
> >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvkaMcqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%
> >>2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648f6e08c08
> >>d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63651342185097656
> >>2&sdata=yO6aa93uWxNmB12eQtfQxQKpKXkvkaMcqrER5%2F6quIs%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> >Patreon:
> >*
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&reserved=0
> ><
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patr
> >eon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com
> %7Cd7a7ff2afb4648
> >f6e08c08d55995b357%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C6365134218
> >50976562&sdata=IbYAEmw3wpyb7VIwudi5l%2FzuLtLOi6FMWa0PGmVkv2U%3D&reserved=0
> >>*
>
>