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Posted to xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org by Mike Skells <Mi...@ebizz-consulting.com> on 2004/06/16 19:49:02 UTC

RE: XMLBeans ready to exit incubation?

yes (IMHO)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Schmidt [mailto:cliff@bea.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday 16 June 2004 18:50
> To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org; xmlbeans-user@xml.apache.org
> Subject: XMLBeans ready to exit incubation?
> 
> 
> Noel J. Bergman wrote on Monday, June 14, 2004 11:46 PM:
> 
> > Understanding that "BEA has absolutely no intention of dropping
> > support of the XMLBeans project", do you feel that XMLBeans is ready
> > to leave the Incubator, or would it benefit from further stay?  How
> > do others in the community feel?
> 
> Hey Community (-dev and -user list folks),
> 
> We've been talking on the incubator general list about criteria for
> exiting the incubator, and Noel posed the questions above.  We're
> all reconsidering whether it really is necessary to have a rule that 
> states that no one organization can have more than 50% of the initial
> committers, as long as there are at least three independent voices 
> and the community seems to be working out.
> 
> IMO, XMLBeans has been going pretty well, especially in the last few
> months.  We've gotten a lot of outside contributions, the committers
> have been pretty responsive to the user community, and we've 
> diversified the committer list over the last few months.  While I 
> think we could go further in these directions, I feel like XMLBeans
> is ready to request graduation from the incubator for two reasons:
> 1) XMLBeans is a good example of an Apache project and well on its
> way to being even better -- in other words, "good for Apache".
> 2) XMLBeans no longer needs the incubator community to figure out
> how to build a community and figure out logistic issues.
> 
> So, these are just my opinions, but I'm hoping to hear from others
> out there (particularly the non-BEA members of the community).  
> 
> Are we ready to leave incubation?
> 
> Cliff
> 
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Re: XMLBeans ready to exit incubation?

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:49:02 +0100, Mike Skells
<mi...@ebizz-consulting.com> wrote:
> 
> yes (IMHO)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cliff Schmidt [mailto:cliff@bea.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday 16 June 2004 18:50
> > To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org; xmlbeans-user@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: XMLBeans ready to exit incubation?
> >
> >
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote on Monday, June 14, 2004 11:46 PM:
> >
> > > Understanding that "BEA has absolutely no intention of dropping
> > > support of the XMLBeans project", do you feel that XMLBeans is ready
> > > to leave the Incubator, or would it benefit from further stay?  How
> > > do others in the community feel?
> >
> > Hey Community (-dev and -user list folks),
> >
> > We've been talking on the incubator general list about criteria for
> > exiting the incubator, and Noel posed the questions above.  We're
> > all reconsidering whether it really is necessary to have a rule that
> > states that no one organization can have more than 50% of the initial
> > committers, as long as there are at least three independent voices
> > and the community seems to be working out.
> >
> > IMO, XMLBeans has been going pretty well, especially in the last few
> > months.  We've gotten a lot of outside contributions, the committers
> > have been pretty responsive to the user community, and we've
> > diversified the committer list over the last few months.  While I
> > think we could go further in these directions, I feel like XMLBeans
> > is ready to request graduation from the incubator for two reasons:
> > 1) XMLBeans is a good example of an Apache project and well on its
> > way to being even better -- in other words, "good for Apache".
> > 2) XMLBeans no longer needs the incubator community to figure out
> > how to build a community and figure out logistic issues.
> >
> > So, these are just my opinions, but I'm hoping to hear from others
> > out there (particularly the non-BEA members of the community).
> >
> > Are we ready to leave incubation?
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
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Re: XMLBeans ready to exit incubation?

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:49:02 +0100, Mike Skells
<mi...@ebizz-consulting.com> wrote:
> 
> yes (IMHO)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cliff Schmidt [mailto:cliff@bea.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday 16 June 2004 18:50
> > To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org; xmlbeans-user@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: XMLBeans ready to exit incubation?
> >
> >
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote on Monday, June 14, 2004 11:46 PM:
> >
> > > Understanding that "BEA has absolutely no intention of dropping
> > > support of the XMLBeans project", do you feel that XMLBeans is ready
> > > to leave the Incubator, or would it benefit from further stay?  How
> > > do others in the community feel?
> >
> > Hey Community (-dev and -user list folks),
> >
> > We've been talking on the incubator general list about criteria for
> > exiting the incubator, and Noel posed the questions above.  We're
> > all reconsidering whether it really is necessary to have a rule that
> > states that no one organization can have more than 50% of the initial
> > committers, as long as there are at least three independent voices
> > and the community seems to be working out.
> >
> > IMO, XMLBeans has been going pretty well, especially in the last few
> > months.  We've gotten a lot of outside contributions, the committers
> > have been pretty responsive to the user community, and we've
> > diversified the committer list over the last few months.  While I
> > think we could go further in these directions, I feel like XMLBeans
> > is ready to request graduation from the incubator for two reasons:
> > 1) XMLBeans is a good example of an Apache project and well on its
> > way to being even better -- in other words, "good for Apache".
> > 2) XMLBeans no longer needs the incubator community to figure out
> > how to build a community and figure out logistic issues.
> >
> > So, these are just my opinions, but I'm hoping to hear from others
> > out there (particularly the non-BEA members of the community).
> >
> > Are we ready to leave incubation?
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > -
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: xmlbeans-dev-help@xml.apache.org
> > Apache XMLBeans Project -- URL: http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/
> >
> >
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