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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2020/08/01 10:31:37 UTC

Re: Reverse bounty idea

And GH did better https://docs.github.com/en/github/supporting-the-open-source-community-with-github-sponsors/about-github-sponsors

Jacques

Le 10/12/2013 à 11:47, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Someone did it http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-month-of-apache-tapestry-5
>
> Jacques
>
> On Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:16 AM Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>> While working on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2058 I had also an idea about how to deal with OFBiz requirements
>> from a community POV.
>>
>> In Open source world there is the well known notion of bounty for feature.
>>>  From time to time (rarely) someone offers to pay for a feature he/she needs.
>> But this is not used in an official way in OFBiz yet (there are no arranged place for that maybe because there are too few needs).
>>
>> Actually the idea I had is a reversed bounty concept. It will not be a person or organisation that will make a pledge for a
>> feature but a person or organisation that will submit a quote for a new feature to be commited in OFBiz.
>>
>> This came to my mind while working on a quote for a VAT stuff.
>> Let me explain : a lot of people need VAT/GST (I guess most countries but USA). I have open a Jira issue to centralise efforts
>> OFBIZ-366.
>> David Garett (OFBIZ-416) and Marco Risaliti (OFBIZ-1262) contributed big patches in the past and I wanted to review them but did
>> not find the time to do so seriously and was not sure it was the right way to go at this time.
>> Also one thing that discouraged me was that both David and Marco was seeing their patches as not ready to be commited. They are
>> now partially unmergeable but I'm sure with still some interesting ideas/code in them.
>> There is also an interesting recent thread http://markmail.org/message/bkqmwwvswzlgzbfr and an even more recent wiki page
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/VAT (actually these informations are referenced at OFBIZ-366 bottom).
>>
>> The reversed bounty concept is applicable for "feature" like VAT which actually may cover a lot of things (which are not obvious
>> at 1st sight).
>>
>> How I see it : one person, a team or an organisation propose to develop a new feature that has proven in the past to interest a
>> lot of people but has not been developed in OFBiz because being an huge work or not well enough defined
>> Actually by "propose" I mean detailled requirements to be freely discussed in dev ML. Could be also direct estimates like in
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/CRM+Sales+Force+Automation+Plan
>>
>> For instance, for VAT we know there have been some "proprietary" implementations.
>> I guess mostly because it seems difficult to coordinate efforts on things  that at 1st sight appears to be countries or
>> organisations specific.
>>
>> But, from the links above, we know also that there are some commons features:
>> * periodic Tax Authority VAT report (input minus input) : by Tax Authority
>> * affect GL accounts (by Tax Authority) default being  VAT Purchases/Sales respectively linked to Assets and Liabilities GL
>> accounts
>> * show prices VAT inclusive everywhere it's needed (some issues : OFBIZ-1086)
>> * how to apply VAT on discount (some categories, not so much)
>> * etc. (more details in VAT wiki page)
>>
>> Sorry for the long and disorganised post. I'm trying to find a new way to earn a living (crisis effect ?). Reverse bounties could
>> be shared of course...
>>
>> Jacques
>> PS : I was not the 1st to have this idea. Curious I just found that a Drupal developer has already suggested a such thing