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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie
itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the same
effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries; either
way the tapestry idea is lost in the background.
Here are ideas
- a spiderweb
- a loom
- a needle and thread
- if someone can draw Arachne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne)
that might be mythological enough for some of the tastes here.
Nick
Todd Orr wrote:
> "Bred for their skills & magic..."
>
> LOL
>
> On 5/15/06, Ashton Hepburn <as...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In keeping with an animal theme - How about a Liger?
>>
>> http://www.liloia.com/images/liger.jpg
>>
>> Bred for their skills & magic...
>>
>> Tapestry/Hivemind : Lion/Tiger
>>
>> All the enhancement is also somewhat 'magical'...
>>
>>
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Martin <ma...@entcap.se>.
Perhaps the logo should be related to how Tapestry apps are built by putting
components together, something like the building blocks seen for wxwidgets or
code::blocks:
http://www.wxwidgets.org/images/logo9.gif
http://www.codeblocks.org/img/splash.jpg
But blocks are cliche, boring and corporate. I like the old logo. :)
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 03:13, Nick Faiz wrote:
> The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
> elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie
> itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the same
> effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries; either
> way the tapestry idea is lost in the background.
>
> Here are ideas
> - a spiderweb
> - a loom
> - a needle and thread
> - if someone can draw Arachne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne)
> that might be mythological enough for some of the tastes here.
>
> Nick
>
> Todd Orr wrote:
> > "Bred for their skills & magic..."
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > On 5/15/06, Ashton Hepburn <as...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> In keeping with an animal theme - How about a Liger?
> >>
> >> http://www.liloia.com/images/liger.jpg
> >>
> >> Bred for their skills & magic...
> >>
> >> Tapestry/Hivemind : Lion/Tiger
> >>
> >> All the enhancement is also somewhat 'magical'...
> >
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Peter Svensson <ps...@gmail.com>.
That's not fair! That guy who knows how to paint will win easily! :)
Cheers,
PS
On 5/16/06, Dwi Ardi Irawan <dw...@nwa.iao.co.id> wrote:
>
> how about if we make a logo competition for tapestry ?
> and poll all developers
>
> Stephane Decleire wrote:
> > For me Tapestry is the most advanced framework to build websites so
> > why associate to it an oldish picture ?????
> > Moreover, i'm not so sure a logo should be so complex as a decorated
> > letter or mythological animal. A logo needs to be printed on papers or
> > webpages with low resolution. BTW, Tapestry is not Hibernate or EJB3
> > so I don' t think DB cylinders convey the good picture ...
> >
> > I think that the logo should remember what Tapestry is :
> > - a framework at the leading edge of Java technologies (so i would
> > vote for a "modern" logo).
> > - a framework for the UI layer (so the loom which generates something
> > to see is not a bad idea but hard to symbolize).
> > - the only framework for the UI with a component oriented approach (so
> > building blocks seems good ... but already used a thousand of times).
> > - powerfull but usable in RAD (Cognition)
> >
> > IMHO and by experience, i don't think technical staff are good for
> > drawing logos. That's to different form our job ... I wouldn't let a
> > pianist or my baker touch my keyboard ...
> > Is there anybody who knows an "artist" or someone who work in a com
> > agency ?
> >
> > Nick Westgate wrote:
> >
> >> Peter is referring to the "decorated T" idea in my other post.
> >> E.g. The Book of Kells has a pretty stylish 'T': (Ok, not a tapestry
> >> though)
> >> http://www.snake.net/people/paul/kells/image/kell2bmp
> >>
> >> As usual, multiple Nicks cause confusion! ;-)
> >> Anyway, the ideas should come forth now, as there is already a "new
> >> logo".
> >>
> >> Peter's idea of decoration with DB cylinders is cool.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nick.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nick Faiz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeh, that's cool.
> >>>
> >>> I didn't mean to jump the gun by offering ideas. Apologies if I've
> >>> created confusion on the list. I was simply providing ideas because
> >>> someone said that criticism without alternative suggestions wasn't
> >>> constructive.
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Peter Svensson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in
> >>>> old (or
> >>>> faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and
> >>>> keyboards
> >>>> instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how
> >>>> to draw
> >>>> that..
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> PS
> >>>
> >>
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Nick Faiz <ni...@q9software.com>.
Well, I think it's probably a little esoteric. :) Maybe it isn't a good
logo if you don't know the stories about the fantastic memories
elephants are supposed to have.
For the record, that is what I have always guessed the Postgres logo to
symbolize. Perhaps there's another story to it.
Nick
Kevin Menard wrote:
> Hello Nick,
>
> Monday, May 15, 2006, 9:13:13 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>> The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
>> elephantine memory.
>>
>
> Well, now I know what the significance of the elephant is. Maybe I'm
> just dense, but for years I've never really got it and never really
> bothered to look into it. I'd imagine I'm not the only one though.
>
>
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Re[2]: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
Hello Nick,
Monday, May 15, 2006, 9:13:13 PM, you wrote:
> The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
> elephantine memory.
Well, now I know what the significance of the elephant is. Maybe I'm
just dense, but for years I've never really got it and never really
bothered to look into it. I'd imagine I'm not the only one though.
--
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Robin Ericsson <lo...@gmail.com>.
On 5/16/06, Dwi Ardi Irawan <dw...@nwa.iao.co.id> wrote:
> how about if we make a logo competition for tapestry ?
> and poll all developers
How about we all give it a rest and let Howard give his point? After
all, without him there wouldn't be a framework at all.
--
regards,
Robin
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Dwi Ardi Irawan <dw...@nwa.iao.co.id>.
how about if we make a logo competition for tapestry ?
and poll all developers
Stephane Decleire wrote:
> For me Tapestry is the most advanced framework to build websites so
> why associate to it an oldish picture ?????
> Moreover, i'm not so sure a logo should be so complex as a decorated
> letter or mythological animal. A logo needs to be printed on papers or
> webpages with low resolution. BTW, Tapestry is not Hibernate or EJB3
> so I don' t think DB cylinders convey the good picture ...
>
> I think that the logo should remember what Tapestry is :
> - a framework at the leading edge of Java technologies (so i would
> vote for a "modern" logo).
> - a framework for the UI layer (so the loom which generates something
> to see is not a bad idea but hard to symbolize).
> - the only framework for the UI with a component oriented approach (so
> building blocks seems good ... but already used a thousand of times).
> - powerfull but usable in RAD (Cognition)
>
> IMHO and by experience, i don't think technical staff are good for
> drawing logos. That's to different form our job ... I wouldn't let a
> pianist or my baker touch my keyboard ...
> Is there anybody who knows an "artist" or someone who work in a com
> agency ?
>
> Nick Westgate wrote:
>
>> Peter is referring to the "decorated T" idea in my other post.
>> E.g. The Book of Kells has a pretty stylish 'T': (Ok, not a tapestry
>> though)
>> http://www.snake.net/people/paul/kells/image/kell2bmp
>>
>> As usual, multiple Nicks cause confusion! ;-)
>> Anyway, the ideas should come forth now, as there is already a "new
>> logo".
>>
>> Peter's idea of decoration with DB cylinders is cool.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nick.
>>
>>
>> Nick Faiz wrote:
>>
>>> Yeh, that's cool.
>>>
>>> I didn't mean to jump the gun by offering ideas. Apologies if I've
>>> created confusion on the list. I was simply providing ideas because
>>> someone said that criticism without alternative suggestions wasn't
>>> constructive.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Svensson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in
>>>> old (or
>>>> faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and
>>>> keyboards
>>>> instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how
>>>> to draw
>>>> that..
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> PS
>>>
>>
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Stephane Decleire <sd...@cariboo-networks.com>.
For me Tapestry is the most advanced framework to build websites so why
associate to it an oldish picture ?????
Moreover, i'm not so sure a logo should be so complex as a decorated
letter or mythological animal. A logo needs to be printed on papers or
webpages with low resolution. BTW, Tapestry is not Hibernate or EJB3 so
I don' t think DB cylinders convey the good picture ...
I think that the logo should remember what Tapestry is :
- a framework at the leading edge of Java technologies (so i would vote
for a "modern" logo).
- a framework for the UI layer (so the loom which generates something to
see is not a bad idea but hard to symbolize).
- the only framework for the UI with a component oriented approach (so
building blocks seems good ... but already used a thousand of times).
- powerfull but usable in RAD (Cognition)
IMHO and by experience, i don't think technical staff are good for
drawing logos. That's to different form our job ... I wouldn't let a
pianist or my baker touch my keyboard ...
Is there anybody who knows an "artist" or someone who work in a com agency ?
Nick Westgate wrote:
> Peter is referring to the "decorated T" idea in my other post.
> E.g. The Book of Kells has a pretty stylish 'T': (Ok, not a tapestry
> though)
> http://www.snake.net/people/paul/kells/image/kell2bmp
>
> As usual, multiple Nicks cause confusion! ;-)
> Anyway, the ideas should come forth now, as there is already a "new
> logo".
>
> Peter's idea of decoration with DB cylinders is cool.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
>
> Nick Faiz wrote:
>
>> Yeh, that's cool.
>>
>> I didn't mean to jump the gun by offering ideas. Apologies if I've
>> created confusion on the list. I was simply providing ideas because
>> someone said that criticism without alternative suggestions wasn't
>> constructive.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> Peter Svensson wrote:
>>
>>> I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in
>>> old (or
>>> faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and
>>> keyboards
>>> instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how
>>> to draw
>>> that..
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> PS
>>
>
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Nick Westgate <ni...@key-planning.co.jp>.
Peter is referring to the "decorated T" idea in my other post.
E.g. The Book of Kells has a pretty stylish 'T': (Ok, not a tapestry though)
http://www.snake.net/people/paul/kells/image/kell2bmp
As usual, multiple Nicks cause confusion! ;-)
Anyway, the ideas should come forth now, as there is already a "new logo".
Peter's idea of decoration with DB cylinders is cool.
Cheers,
Nick.
Nick Faiz wrote:
> Yeh, that's cool.
>
> I didn't mean to jump the gun by offering ideas. Apologies if I've
> created confusion on the list. I was simply providing ideas because
> someone said that criticism without alternative suggestions wasn't
> constructive.
>
> Nick
>
>
> Peter Svensson wrote:
>
>> I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in old (or
>> faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and
>> keyboards
>> instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how to
>> draw
>> that..
>>
>> Cheers,
>> PS
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Nick Faiz <ni...@q9software.com>.
Yeh, that's cool.
I didn't mean to jump the gun by offering ideas. Apologies if I've
created confusion on the list. I was simply providing ideas because
someone said that criticism without alternative suggestions wasn't
constructive.
Nick
Peter Svensson wrote:
> I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in old (or
> faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and
> keyboards
> instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how to
> draw
> that..
>
> Cheers,
> PS
>
> On 5/16/06, Aleksej <al...@ivs.lt> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nick Faiz wrote:
>> > The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
>> > elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie
>> > itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the
>> > same effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries;
>> > either way the tapestry idea is lost in the background.
>> >
>> > Here are ideas
>> > - a spiderweb
>> > - a loom
>> > - a needle and thread
>> > - if someone can draw Arachne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne)
>> > that might be mythological enough for some of the tastes here.
>> >
>> The loom is nice idea.
>> By the way, I don't remember anything about logo contest, it could be
>> nice to do one.
>>
>>
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Peter Svensson <ps...@gmail.com>.
I like the "decorated T" idea, like the large beginning letter in old (or
faux-old) fairy tale books, but with small database cylinders and keyboards
instead of leaves and TP-5 instead of vines :) Hmm, wish I knew how to draw
that..
Cheers,
PS
On 5/16/06, Aleksej <al...@ivs.lt> wrote:
>
>
> Nick Faiz wrote:
> > The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
> > elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie
> > itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the
> > same effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries;
> > either way the tapestry idea is lost in the background.
> >
> > Here are ideas
> > - a spiderweb
> > - a loom
> > - a needle and thread
> > - if someone can draw Arachne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne)
> > that might be mythological enough for some of the tastes here.
> >
> The loom is nice idea.
> By the way, I don't remember anything about logo contest, it could be
> nice to do one.
>
>
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Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)
Posted by Aleksej <al...@ivs.lt>.
Nick Faiz wrote:
> The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests
> elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie
> itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the
> same effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries;
> either way the tapestry idea is lost in the background.
>
> Here are ideas
> - a spiderweb
> - a loom
> - a needle and thread
> - if someone can draw Arachne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne)
> that might be mythological enough for some of the tastes here.
>
The loom is nice idea.
By the way, I don't remember anything about logo contest, it could be
nice to do one.
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