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Horizontal double lines

I have a Writer document in which I marked off separations between passages with asterisks. Somehow the lines of asterisks turned into horizontal double lines across the page, the top line thicker than the bottom, and I cannot delete them. I have tried copying and pasting text from the document into a new document, without copying the lines, but they just reappear in the new document. I'd appreciate someone's help on this one.

Re: Horizontal double lines

Posted by Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com.INVALID>.
At 22:52 13/07/2022 +0000, Alan Cliffe wrote:
>I have a Writer document in which I marked off separations between 
>passages with asterisks. Somehow the lines of asterisks turned into 
>horizontal double lines across the page, the top line thicker than 
>the bottom, and I cannot delete them. I have tried copying and 
>pasting text from the document into a new document, without copying 
>the lines, but they just reappear in the new document. I'd 
>appreciate someone's help on this one.

What you have is not a separate text item in your document but 
instead a border attached to and as part of the preceding paragraph. 
That is why you cannot just select the lines and delete them and why 
they carry over if you copy and paste the paragraph that owns them. 
Note that OpenOffice provides the facility to create such bottom 
borders to paragraphs by typing three similar characters as if for a 
new paragraph: apart from asterisks, this also works with hyphens, 
underscores, equal signs, swung dashes (sometimes wrongly called 
"tildes"), and hash marks. Try them out to see.

Here are some ideas:

o The conversion from asterisks to a border is a separate operation 
from your typing. When you notice this happen, you can immediately 
undo it using Edit | Undo (or Ctrl+Z). This will remove the border 
and reinstate your asterisks.

o You could achieve what you probably want easily by making the 
asterisks a separate line within the paragraph in the first place. To 
do that, instead of terminating your paragraph with Enter, use 
Shift+Enter to insert a line break and then type your asterisks. They 
will not be interfered with. Then type Enter to complete the 
paragraph including your asterisks.

o If you really wish to override this facility in OpenOffice, go to 
Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options, and remove the tick from 
"Apply border".

o You can remove such bottom borders to paragraphs by putting the 
cursor into the paragraph and going to Format | Paragraph... | 
Borders (or right-click | Paragraph... | Borders) and clicking the 
left box (for no borders) under Line arrangement | Default.

o Copying and pasting will indeed by default carry over the paragraph 
formatting, and that includes any paragraph border. But you can avoid 
this using Edit | Paste Special... (or Ctrl+Shift+V) instead of 
ordinary Paste and then selecting "Unformatted text" in the Paste 
Special dialogue. Your border will disappear.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: Horizontal double lines

Posted by Felmon Davis <mo...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, Alan Cliffe wrote:

> I have a Writer document in which I marked off separations between 
> passages with asterisks. Somehow the lines of asterisks turned into 
> horizontal double lines across the page, the top line thicker than 
> the bottom, and I cannot delete them. I have tried copying and 
> pasting text from the document into a new document, without copying 
> the lines, but they just reappear in the new document. I'd 
> appreciate someone's help on this one.

just had something similar. try going to paragraph formatting and make 
sure the 'borders' are turned off.

fjd

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Davis

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Re: Horizontal double lines

Posted by Alan Cliffe <dr...@sbcglobal.net>.
 Thanks--your fourth suggestion worked for the existing lines and I'm going to also go with your third.
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 07:44:42 PM EDT, Brian Barker <b....@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:  
 
 At 22:52 13/07/2022 +0000, Alan Cliffe wrote:
>I have a Writer document in which I marked off separations between 
>passages with asterisks. Somehow the lines of asterisks turned into 
>horizontal double lines across the page, the top line thicker than 
>the bottom, and I cannot delete them. I have tried copying and 
>pasting text from the document into a new document, without copying 
>the lines, but they just reappear in the new document. I'd 
>appreciate someone's help on this one.

What you have is not a separate text item in your document but 
instead a border attached to and as part of the preceding paragraph. 
That is why you cannot just select the lines and delete them and why 
they carry over if you copy and paste the paragraph that owns them. 
Note that OpenOffice provides the facility to create such bottom 
borders to paragraphs by typing three similar characters as if for a 
new paragraph: apart from asterisks, this also works with hyphens, 
underscores, equal signs, swung dashes (sometimes wrongly called 
"tildes"), and hash marks. Try them out to see.

Here are some ideas:

o The conversion from asterisks to a border is a separate operation 
from your typing. When you notice this happen, you can immediately 
undo it using Edit | Undo (or Ctrl+Z). This will remove the border 
and reinstate your asterisks.

o You could achieve what you probably want easily by making the 
asterisks a separate line within the paragraph in the first place. To 
do that, instead of terminating your paragraph with Enter, use 
Shift+Enter to insert a line break and then type your asterisks. They 
will not be interfered with. Then type Enter to complete the 
paragraph including your asterisks.

o If you really wish to override this facility in OpenOffice, go to 
Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options, and remove the tick from 
"Apply border".

o You can remove such bottom borders to paragraphs by putting the 
cursor into the paragraph and going to Format | Paragraph... | 
Borders (or right-click | Paragraph... | Borders) and clicking the 
left box (for no borders) under Line arrangement | Default.

o Copying and pasting will indeed by default carry over the paragraph 
formatting, and that includes any paragraph border. But you can avoid 
this using Edit | Paste Special... (or Ctrl+Shift+V) instead of 
ordinary Paste and then selecting "Unformatted text" in the Paste 
Special dialogue. Your border will disappear.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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