RE: [OT}getting started

[John Najarian <j-...@earthlink.net>]

Eugene,

   This is off topic.  We ran applications with Access. This is
for some side work we (a couple of friends & I) we experienced
substantial degradation as the Access database grew.

   We ported the database to MySql just this weekend and already
the response has improved measurably.  The front end was changed
from Access to java and that took the most time.  None of us had
any experience with MySql.

  The biggest hurdles we had was finding the right components for
MySql and rewriting the front end in Java.  Another thing was we
could rid ourselves of some program functions that Access required
which are provided by MySql.

   You might consider switching over from Access to MySql.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene [mailto:j.subscribe@infosatgeomatica.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 11:52 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: getting started

Hello  QM,  I have my server running Apache+Tomcat+GIS server+Oracle+Access
DBs (they
are  connected  trough  GIS  server for different projects) for almost one
year, I've
explained  my  professional  specification to Atishay Kumar. My objective
its to make
work one or three applications and to make Tomcat to serve jsp pages with
Apache. But
it  was  really hard to make it work together as I say before. I read the
Java docs -
the  thing  that  I'm  not  Java  programmer,  so its more then enough for
me to make
software  work  as  official  documentation  says. If I have problems with
balancers,
filters,  connectors  or  other - I'm writing to support, because they are
designers,
not I am. The point is I'm really TOMCAT USER, not developer, not Java
programmer, so
if its possible to use Tomcat with other servers or for different purposes,
its would
be  great  to have this information in documentation. I want to admit that
Apache and
Tomcat  docs  are  perfect and pretty clear, but for example if I want to
start learn
jsp and install Tomcat on my computer that already have Apache - its
logically that I
want  to  know  how  they should work together, also I want to start from
basics, not
just  from  precompiled  jsps.  You  can  say that Tomcat wasnt designed for
learning
purposes - I agree, but if its possible somehow to give basic knowledge - it
would be
great.  At last - I've started to learn about Tomcat when I was need it for
work, now
I'm  starting  to  learn  Java  and  jsp,  so  not every person here starts
from java
programmer and then continues as Tomcat admin.

Thanks.

Sunday, September 26, 2004, 9:56:07 AM, you wrote:

> [I've changed your subject line to start a new thread]

> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:47:19AM -0300, Eugene wrote:
> : Hello,  also it would be great if they can give some information where
> : and how to place jsp pages if somebody want to use Tomcat with Apache.

> Anywhere you want.

> : But  tell the truth I never seen clear instructions how exactly newbie
> : can   deploy   the   page   or  application.  All  books  starts  from
> : "HelloWorld.."  but  there  no  any  word about ROOT, about how to use
> : custom directory under Apache or without it and things like this.

> Likely, there's no one catch-all doc because

> 	Apache httpd != Tomcat != Java webapps

> They're all separate topics with their own learning curves.  Trying to
> run them all together at once, when you're just starting out, is asking
> for a headache.

> To start with Java webapps, read the servlet spec (search java.sun.com
> for the doc).  That details what a container (such as Tomcat) must
> provide to be spec-compliant, as well as the basics of assembling a
> webapp.  Yes, it's dry in places, but it's not meant to be movie-script
> material. ;)

> Next, follow some tutorials on Java webapps.  Sun.com has some, there
> are others all over the web.

> Once you get that down pat, return to the Tomcat setup issues.

> Finally, review the Tomcat "connector" documentation (mod_jk, jk2) to
> connect Apache to Tomcat.

> -QM




-- 
Best regards,
 Eugene                            mailto:j.subscribe@infosatgeomatica.com


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