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Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Hi guys,
we can discuss for 3 more months, but at some point, isn't it time to
start a vote ?
We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> ...I still owe IPMC an answer about status of the Groovy trademark.
> I'm trying to research this on my end with Pivotal team...
Sure, it's good to find out but I don't think that's a blocker for
entering incubation.
-Bertrand
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
>
> we can discuss for 3 more months, but at some point, isn't it time to
> start a vote ?
Sure. But at least a week for something like Groovy should be expected.
Besides, I still owe IPMC an answer about status of the Groovy trademark.
I'm trying to research this on my end with Pivotal team.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Matt Franklin <m....@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
> > ...having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
> > a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week....
>
> I don't think letting the vote drag on purpose is useful - after
> almost a week of discussions it seems like all the (minor) issues that
> have not come to closure need to be discussed once the podling is
> established. A longer vote would be counterproductive w.r.t these
> issues.
>
+1. That is the purpose of the discussion phase. We should all have
enough context to vote one way or another.
>
> So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
> - that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
> the vote after the standard 72 hours.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
> - that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
> the vote after the standard 72 hours.
+1
I'm persuaded that the week-long DISCUSS was a good call. A 72-hour
VOTE should suffice after that.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> ...having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
> a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week....
I don't think letting the vote drag on purpose is useful - after
almost a week of discussions it seems like all the (minor) issues that
have not come to closure need to be discussed once the podling is
established. A longer vote would be counterproductive w.r.t these
issues.
So unless new issues come up once the vote starts (which would be bad
- that's why we have a DISCUSS phase) I would very much like to close
the vote after the standard 72 hours.
-Bertrand
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
Hi!
having seen some of the issues that came from prior proposals rushing
a vote, I'd like to see [VOTE] thread to exist for at least a week.
I am going to start a vote tomorrow once a full week of [DISCUSS]
elapses.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Cédric Champeau
> <ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that we
>> have :)...
>
> Ok, I'll start the vote Wednesday morning CET unless we hear from
> Roman until then.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Cédric Champeau
<ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that we
> have :)...
Ok, I'll start the vote Wednesday morning CET unless we hear from
Roman until then.
-Bertrand
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Cédric Champeau <ce...@gmail.com>.
On 17/03/2015 15:34, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
>> various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !..
> +1 - as I said elsethread it's in theory Roman's job to start the
> vote, as the Groovy champion.
>
> But I guess if any of the mentors feel impatient we can do that as
> well...going once... ;-)
>
> -Bertrand
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I wouldn't mind starting a vote early, given the time constraints that
we have :)
--
Cédric Champeau
Groovy language developer
http://twitter.com/CedricChampeau
http://melix.github.io/blog
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Re: Vote ? was [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...We already have demonstrated our ability to raises various points on
> various subjects, time to demonstrate The ASF in action !..
+1 - as I said elsethread it's in theory Roman's job to start the
vote, as the Groovy champion.
But I guess if any of the mentors feel impatient we can do that as
well...going once... ;-)
-Bertrand
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