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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Hello guys,
It looks like the TomEE server with Java EE 7 is waiting for OpenJPA release
supporting JPA 2.1.
How far is OpenJPA with JPA 2.1 support.
I appreciate. Thx,
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
I definitely like to start working on OpenJPA again.
Just give me a week to again do a 'warm up'.
It's really needed to dig into the code for a week or so before you start to hack. There are just so many layers of indirection which you need to understand and you possibly can break...
My current customer has a few issues with OpenJPA which I need to fix now. This has nothing to do with JPA-2.1 but of course is a good trigger to start again.
LieGrue,
strub
> On Wednesday, 7 January 2015, 23:29, Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> I've done some draft work to support Schema Generation of JPA 2.1. It's
> far from over, still needs a lot of polishing but I would love some feedback
> before moving forward:
> https://github.com/radcortez/openjpa21/commit/8fc4e306ca7e8dc73737a506768269097289abf4
>
> Thank you!
> Cheers,Roberto
> From: Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
>
> To: "users@openjpa.apache.org" <us...@openjpa.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:58 AM
> Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
>
> Hi guys,
> Started some work on the schema generation
> features:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-2554
>
> Would love some feedback to check if I'm in the right track. Thank you.
> Cheers,Roberto
> From: Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>
>
>
> To: users@openjpa.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
>
> May of JPA 2.1 have been developed on the branch Kevin had mentioned. As it
> was quite a while I had looked at beautiful OpenJPA code (i am now a FOB in
> the wobbly-goobly-gook Python/Shell Script world filled with super-wizards
> :), the exact features I had implemented on that branch escapes me.
>
> The essentials are
> 1. Stored Procedure support was well-cooked as it required new
> constructs/concepts in OpenJPA
> 2. Many low-hanging features that had been part of OpenJPA in alternative
> form are adapted to JPA 2.1 form
>
> Will take a look when i get some free time.
>
> Any new or old committers ready to contribute to OpenJPA are welcome to
> offer a hand to drive these prototypes to completion.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Pinaki Poddar
> Chair, Apache OpenJPA Project
> --
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi everyone,
I've done some draft work to support Schema Generation of JPA 2.1. It's far from over, still needs a lot of polishing but I would love some feedback before moving forward:
https://github.com/radcortez/openjpa21/commit/8fc4e306ca7e8dc73737a506768269097289abf4
Thank you!
Cheers,Roberto
From: Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
To: "users@openjpa.apache.org" <us...@openjpa.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Hi guys,
Started some work on the schema generation features:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-2554
Would love some feedback to check if I'm in the right track. Thank you.
Cheers,Roberto
From: Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>
To: users@openjpa.apache.org
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
May of JPA 2.1 have been developed on the branch Kevin had mentioned. As it
was quite a while I had looked at beautiful OpenJPA code (i am now a FOB in
the wobbly-goobly-gook Python/Shell Script world filled with super-wizards
:), the exact features I had implemented on that branch escapes me.
The essentials are
1. Stored Procedure support was well-cooked as it required new
constructs/concepts in OpenJPA
2. Many low-hanging features that had been part of OpenJPA in alternative
form are adapted to JPA 2.1 form
Will take a look when i get some free time.
Any new or old committers ready to contribute to OpenJPA are welcome to
offer a hand to drive these prototypes to completion.
-----
Pinaki Poddar
Chair, Apache OpenJPA Project
--
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi guys,
Started some work on the schema generation features:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-2554
Would love some feedback to check if I'm in the right track. Thank you.
Cheers,Roberto
From: Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>
To: users@openjpa.apache.org
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
May of JPA 2.1 have been developed on the branch Kevin had mentioned. As it
was quite a while I had looked at beautiful OpenJPA code (i am now a FOB in
the wobbly-goobly-gook Python/Shell Script world filled with super-wizards
:), the exact features I had implemented on that branch escapes me.
The essentials are
1. Stored Procedure support was well-cooked as it required new
constructs/concepts in OpenJPA
2. Many low-hanging features that had been part of OpenJPA in alternative
form are adapted to JPA 2.1 form
Will take a look when i get some free time.
Any new or old committers ready to contribute to OpenJPA are welcome to
offer a hand to drive these prototypes to completion.
-----
Pinaki Poddar
Chair, Apache OpenJPA Project
--
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>.
May of JPA 2.1 have been developed on the branch Kevin had mentioned. As it
was quite a while I had looked at beautiful OpenJPA code (i am now a FOB in
the wobbly-goobly-gook Python/Shell Script world filled with super-wizards
:), the exact features I had implemented on that branch escapes me.
The essentials are
1. Stored Procedure support was well-cooked as it required new
constructs/concepts in OpenJPA
2. Many low-hanging features that had been part of OpenJPA in alternative
form are adapted to JPA 2.1 form
Will take a look when i get some free time.
Any new or old committers ready to contribute to OpenJPA are welcome to
offer a hand to drive these prototypes to completion.
-----
Pinaki Poddar
Chair, Apache OpenJPA Project
--
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Rick Curtis <cu...@gmail.com>.
Now that 2.3.x has been cut, I think we can most likely develop 2.1 in
trunk. Other opinions?
>Should we just pick a task from the list here:
http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html and contribute to it?
Yes. If there isn't already a JIRA for a given work item, go ahead and
create one. Once you have code to contribute you can attach it to that task.
Thanks,
Rick
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Roberto Cortez <radcortez@yahoo.com.invalid
> wrote:
> Hi,
> Forgive me with these very basic questions:
> - All the JPA 2.1 work should be done in this svn sandbox:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openjpa/sandboxes/21?- Should we just
> pick a task from the list here:
> http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html and contribute to it?- Since
> I'm not a committer, should I just send the patches for the code?
> Cheers,Roberto
> From: Rick Curtis <cu...@gmail.com>
> To: users <us...@openjpa.apache.org>
> Cc: Pinaki Poddar <pi...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
>
> For those that are interested in this development effort, please take a
> look at the jpa-2.1 development tasks[1]. There are some low hanging prelim
> tasks that need to get taken care of prior to any real 2.1 work happening.
>
> Pinaki -- I see you created a 2.1 development sandbox, do you have any info
> on the changes that you've already started to prototype?
>
> Thanks,
> Rick
>
> [1] http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:50 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Throwing this out there as it never hurts to be explicit.
> > >
> > > On the Tomitribe side I'm willing to hire someone to work on OpenJPA
> > full-time if there are enough users out there willing to share the cost
> of
> > said developer.
> > >
> > > A full-time developer (or two) is really not that expensive when split
> > 10 different ways.
> > >
> > > Email me offline -- not really an appropriate conversation for this
> > list. As well this is the first and only time I'll mention it.
> > >
> > > I will say that at some point our belief in Open Source has to match
> > some level of commitment. Here's your opportunity.
> >
> > Already getting emails from OpenJPA committers lining up to be said
> > full-time developer.
> >
> > Up to users at this point what happens to OpenJPA. Reach out if OpenJPA
> > means something to you. We'll do our best to help you champion it
> > internally.
> >
> > Never hurts to try. You might succeed.
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Blevins
> > http://twitter.com/dblevins
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *Rick Curtis*
>
>
>
--
*Rick Curtis*
Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
Forgive me with these very basic questions:
- All the JPA 2.1 work should be done in this svn sandbox: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openjpa/sandboxes/21?- Should we just pick a task from the list here: http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html and contribute to it?- Since I'm not a committer, should I just send the patches for the code?
Cheers,Roberto
From: Rick Curtis <cu...@gmail.com>
To: users <us...@openjpa.apache.org>
Cc: Pinaki Poddar <pi...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
For those that are interested in this development effort, please take a
look at the jpa-2.1 development tasks[1]. There are some low hanging prelim
tasks that need to get taken care of prior to any real 2.1 work happening.
Pinaki -- I see you created a 2.1 development sandbox, do you have any info
on the changes that you've already started to prototype?
Thanks,
Rick
[1] http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:50 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Throwing this out there as it never hurts to be explicit.
> >
> > On the Tomitribe side I'm willing to hire someone to work on OpenJPA
> full-time if there are enough users out there willing to share the cost of
> said developer.
> >
> > A full-time developer (or two) is really not that expensive when split
> 10 different ways.
> >
> > Email me offline -- not really an appropriate conversation for this
> list. As well this is the first and only time I'll mention it.
> >
> > I will say that at some point our belief in Open Source has to match
> some level of commitment. Here's your opportunity.
>
> Already getting emails from OpenJPA committers lining up to be said
> full-time developer.
>
> Up to users at this point what happens to OpenJPA. Reach out if OpenJPA
> means something to you. We'll do our best to help you champion it
> internally.
>
> Never hurts to try. You might succeed.
>
>
> --
> David Blevins
> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
--
*Rick Curtis*
Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Rick Curtis <cu...@gmail.com>.
For those that are interested in this development effort, please take a
look at the jpa-2.1 development tasks[1]. There are some low hanging prelim
tasks that need to get taken care of prior to any real 2.1 work happening.
Pinaki -- I see you created a 2.1 development sandbox, do you have any info
on the changes that you've already started to prototype?
Thanks,
Rick
[1] http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:50 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Throwing this out there as it never hurts to be explicit.
> >
> > On the Tomitribe side I'm willing to hire someone to work on OpenJPA
> full-time if there are enough users out there willing to share the cost of
> said developer.
> >
> > A full-time developer (or two) is really not that expensive when split
> 10 different ways.
> >
> > Email me offline -- not really an appropriate conversation for this
> list. As well this is the first and only time I'll mention it.
> >
> > I will say that at some point our belief in Open Source has to match
> some level of commitment. Here's your opportunity.
>
> Already getting emails from OpenJPA committers lining up to be said
> full-time developer.
>
> Up to users at this point what happens to OpenJPA. Reach out if OpenJPA
> means something to you. We'll do our best to help you champion it
> internally.
>
> Never hurts to try. You might succeed.
>
>
> --
> David Blevins
> http://twitter.com/dblevins
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
--
*Rick Curtis*
Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Throwing this out there as it never hurts to be explicit.
>
> On the Tomitribe side I'm willing to hire someone to work on OpenJPA full-time if there are enough users out there willing to share the cost of said developer.
>
> A full-time developer (or two) is really not that expensive when split 10 different ways.
>
> Email me offline -- not really an appropriate conversation for this list. As well this is the first and only time I'll mention it.
>
> I will say that at some point our belief in Open Source has to match some level of commitment. Here's your opportunity.
Already getting emails from OpenJPA committers lining up to be said full-time developer.
Up to users at this point what happens to OpenJPA. Reach out if OpenJPA means something to you. We'll do our best to help you champion it internally.
Never hurts to try. You might succeed.
--
David Blevins
http://twitter.com/dblevins
http://www.tomitribe.com
Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
Throwing this out there as it never hurts to be explicit.
On the Tomitribe side I'm willing to hire someone to work on OpenJPA full-time if there are enough users out there willing to share the cost of said developer.
A full-time developer (or two) is really not that expensive when split 10 different ways.
Email me offline -- not really an appropriate conversation for this list. As well this is the first and only time I'll mention it.
I will say that at some point our belief in Open Source has to match some level of commitment. Here's your opportunity.
--
David Blevins
http://twitter.com/dblevins
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Oct 22, 2014, at 2:51 PM, tibor17 <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> It looks like the TomEE server with Java EE 7 is waiting for OpenJPA release
> supporting JPA 2.1.
> How far is OpenJPA with JPA 2.1 support.
> I appreciate. Thx,
>
>
>
> --
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>.
> And, as a good friend of mine once stated, "open source is not free".
to add further:
"Remember that when something is free the product is you."
-----
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Chair, Apache OpenJPA Project
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com>.
Hi everyone,
I'm new around here, but I'm very interested in helping OpenJPA to comply
with the JPA 2.1 spec. Is someone already doing something?
Cheers,
Roberto
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by tibor17 <ti...@apache.org>.
Hi Kevin,
It's also hard for me to find the time in this project.
I am already a committer at the Maven which already takes quite a lot of my
spare time.
Maybe you should send such request to the mailing lists of those ASF
projects which use OpenJPA.
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Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for the note and reviving this thread... We are well aware of
TomEE's desire for JPA 2.1 support in OpenJPA. It would be great to see
JPA 2.1 support in OpenJPA. But, the community contributions in this arena
have been slim. This string of notes is one such plea, but there have been
others on users and dev mailing lists as well.
Although it has been pointed out that the majority of the current committer
set is from IBM (that part is true), we would greatly appreciate and
welcome contributions from anybody. I don't think opening up the
committership to anybody who requests is a viable or valid solution. I
think establishing some expertise by contributing patches (code, test,
docs, etc) is a valid process for establishing committer karma.
I had started the JPA 2.1 activity by documenting the high-level steps for
development:
http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
But, as you can see, it's been pretty dormant. Everybody involved with
Apache projects have "day jobs". And, as a good friend of mine once
stated, "open source is not free". So, if the JPA 2.1 support is required
by the OpenJPA community, then it's time for action. As many of you know,
the OpenJPA solution is a very solid, well performing implementation of the
JPA specification. But, we will need additional input to make the
implementation of JPA 2.1 real.
Just telling it like it is...
Kevin
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:51 PM, tibor17 <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> It looks like the TomEE server with Java EE 7 is waiting for OpenJPA
> release
> supporting JPA 2.1.
> How far is OpenJPA with JPA 2.1 support.
> I appreciate. Thx,
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/OpenJPA-support-for-JPA-2-1-when-tp7584157p7587287.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: OpenJPA support for JPA 2.1: when?
Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for the note and reviving this thread... We are well aware of
TomEE's desire for JPA 2.1 support in OpenJPA. It would be great to see
JPA 2.1 support in OpenJPA. But, the community contributions in this arena
have been slim. This string of notes is one such plea, but there have been
others on users and dev mailing lists as well.
Although it has been pointed out that the majority of the current committer
set is from IBM (that part is true), we would greatly appreciate and
welcome contributions from anybody. I don't think opening up the
committership to anybody who requests is a viable or valid solution. I
think establishing some expertise by contributing patches (code, test,
docs, etc) is a valid process for establishing committer karma.
I had started the JPA 2.1 activity by documenting the high-level steps for
development:
http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
But, as you can see, it's been pretty dormant. Everybody involved with
Apache projects have "day jobs". And, as a good friend of mine once
stated, "open source is not free". So, if the JPA 2.1 support is required
by the OpenJPA community, then it's time for action. As many of you know,
the OpenJPA solution is a very solid, well performing implementation of the
JPA specification. But, we will need additional input to make the
implementation of JPA 2.1 real.
Just telling it like it is...
Kevin
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:51 PM, tibor17 <ti...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> It looks like the TomEE server with Java EE 7 is waiting for OpenJPA
> release
> supporting JPA 2.1.
> How far is OpenJPA with JPA 2.1 support.
> I appreciate. Thx,
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/OpenJPA-support-for-JPA-2-1-when-tp7584157p7587287.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>