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Further documentation on j_security_check

I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check 
(form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything worthy, 
just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must be used with 
it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive documentation about this 
process?

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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by ben short <be...@benshort.co.uk>.
The tomcat source code can be found here.

http://tomcat.apache.org/

You will need to select the tomcat version you want from the download
menu on the left. Then scroll down and you will see the source
downloads.

Ben

On 1/24/07, Langas de los Langas <pu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's it! So, and excuse me if this sounds dumb, but where can I look up
> the source code?
>
>
> >From: "ben short" <be...@benshort.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:38:52 +0000
> >
> >Langas,
> >
> >Probably best you look at the source code then.
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >On 1/24/07, Langas de los Langas <pu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation. I
> >>want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I especifically
> >>want
> >>to know how the process receives and handles the data from the form
> >>fileds;
> >>I need to know why they must be called j_username and j_password... In a
> >>word, I want to know its inner operation, not some arbitrary guidelines
> >>about how to create the forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it
> >>behave
> >>in that way.
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
> >> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >> >To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
> >> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
> >> >
> >> >http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
> >> >
> >> >Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
> >> >http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
> >> >
> >> >En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
> >> >en ces termes:
> >> > > I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
> >> > > (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
> >> > > worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that
> >>must
> >> > > be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
> >> > > documentation about this process?
> >> > >
> >> > > _________________________________________________________________
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by Langas de los Langas <pu...@hotmail.com>.
That's it! So, and excuse me if this sounds dumb, but where can I look up 
the source code?


>From: "ben short" <be...@benshort.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:38:52 +0000
>
>Langas,
>
>Probably best you look at the source code then.
>
>Ben
>
>On 1/24/07, Langas de los Langas <pu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation. I
>>want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I especifically 
>>want
>>to know how the process receives and handles the data from the form 
>>fileds;
>>I need to know why they must be called j_username and j_password... In a
>>word, I want to know its inner operation, not some arbitrary guidelines
>>about how to create the forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it 
>>behave
>>in that way.
>>
>>
>> >From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
>> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> >To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> >Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
>> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
>> >
>> >
>> >http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
>> >
>> >http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
>> >
>> >Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>> >http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
>> >
>> >En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
>> >en ces termes:
>> > > I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
>> > > (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
>> > > worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that 
>>must
>> > > be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
>> > > documentation about this process?
>> > >
>> > > _________________________________________________________________
>> > > ¿Estás pensando en cambiar de coche? Todas los modelos de serie y
>> > > extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/
>> > >
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by ben short <be...@benshort.co.uk>.
Langas,

Probably best you look at the source code then.

Ben

On 1/24/07, Langas de los Langas <pu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation. I
> want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I especifically want
> to know how the process receives and handles the data from the form fileds;
> I need to know why they must be called j_username and j_password... In a
> word, I want to know its inner operation, not some arbitrary guidelines
> about how to create the forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it behave
> in that way.
>
>
> >From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
> >
> >
> >http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
> >
> >http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
> >
> >Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
> >http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
> >
> >En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
> >en ces termes:
> > > I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
> > > (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
> > > worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must
> > > be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
> > > documentation about this process?
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > ¿Estás pensando en cambiar de coche? Todas los modelos de serie y
> > > extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/
> > >
> > >
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by Pid <p...@pidster.com>.
nessus wrote:
> I have the same question.
> 
> anybody know how to authenticate users with it's information in another
> database table rather the preset table appfuse created automatically
> "app-user", "role" and "user_role", like my own table "member". I want to
> know exactly how to talk with database/in-memory storages whether the posted
> user/password is valid.

(It sounds like a different question, traditionally asked in it's own
thread.)

Have you looked at the docs? "Realm" is the element you want.

 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/realm.html

I have no knowledge of AppFuse so I can't assume it uses a Realm too.
The beauty of open source is that you can look at the code to see how it
(Tomcat) works.

p


> thanks for your cents. nessus.
> 
> 
> David Delbecq wrote:
>> En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 14:34, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
>> en ces termes:
>>> Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation.
>>> I want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I
>>> especifically want to know how the process receives and handles the
>>> data from the form fileds; I need to know why they must be called
>>> j_username and j_password... In a word, I want to know its inner
>>> operation, not some arbitrary guidelines about how to create the
>>> forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it behave in that way.
>>>
>> for the why, answer is simple it's because it's stated it must be that
>> way in servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3


>>>> From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
>>>> Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>>>> To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
>>>> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
>>>>
>>>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
>>>>
>>>> Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>>>> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
>>>>
>>>> En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
>>>> en ces termes:
>>>>> I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
>>>>> (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
>>>>> worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must
>>>>> be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
>>>>> documentation about this process?
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> ¿Estás pensando en cambiar de coche? Todas los modelos de serie y
>>>>> extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Nessus,

nessus wrote:
> I have the [a similar] question.
> 
> anybody know how to authenticate users with it's information in another
> database table rather the preset table appfuse created automatically
> "app-user", "role" and "user_role", like my own table "member".

As pid suggests, see the Realm documentation.

> I want to
> know exactly how to talk with database/in-memory storages whether the posted
> user/password is valid.

Unless you write your own Tomcat authenticator (which I would not
recommend), you cannot use Tomcat's built-in authentication and
authorization system to intercept login requests and perform other
operations (such as, as you say, the login is unsuccessful).

For a more robust and configurable authentication and authorization
implementation, check out securityfilter
(http://securityfilter.sourceforge.net).

- -chris

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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by nessus <co...@gmail.com>.
I have the same question.

anybody know how to authenticate users with it's information in another
database table rather the preset table appfuse created automatically
"app-user", "role" and "user_role", like my own table "member". I want to
know exactly how to talk with database/in-memory storages whether the posted
user/password is valid.

thanks for your cents. nessus.


David Delbecq wrote:
> 
> En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 14:34, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
> en ces termes:
>> Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation.
>> I want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I
>> especifically want to know how the process receives and handles the
>> data from the form fileds; I need to know why they must be called
>> j_username and j_password... In a word, I want to know its inner
>> operation, not some arbitrary guidelines about how to create the
>> forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it behave in that way.
>>
> for the why, answer is simple it's because it's stated it must be that
> way in servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>>
>>> From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
>>> Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>>> To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
>>> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
>>>
>>>
>>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
>>>
>>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
>>>
>>> Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>>> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
>>>
>>> En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
>>> en ces termes:
>>> > I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
>>> > (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
>>> > worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must
>>> > be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
>>> > documentation about this process?
>>> >
>>> > _________________________________________________________________
>>> > ¿Estás pensando en cambiar de coche? Todas los modelos de serie y
>>> > extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>.
See the servlet spec

SRV.12.5.3 Form Based Authentication

-Tim


Langas de los Langas wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation. I 
> want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I especifically 
> want to know how the process receives and handles the data from the form 
> fileds; I need to know why they must be called j_username and 
> j_password... In a word, I want to know its inner operation, not some 
> arbitrary guidelines about how to create the forms. Not 'how' to use it, 
> but 'why' does it behave in that way.


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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>.
En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 14:34, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
en ces termes:
> Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation.
> I want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I
> especifically want to know how the process receives and handles the
> data from the form fileds; I need to know why they must be called
> j_username and j_password... In a word, I want to know its inner
> operation, not some arbitrary guidelines about how to create the
> forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it behave in that way.
>
for the why, answer is simple it's because it's stated it must be that
way in servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>
>> From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
>> Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
>> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
>>
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
>>
>> Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
>>
>> En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
>> en ces termes:
>> > I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
>> > (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
>> > worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must
>> > be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
>> > documentation about this process?
>> >
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > ¿Estás pensando en cambiar de coche? Todas los modelos de serie y
>> > extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/
>> >
>> >
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by Langas de los Langas <pu...@hotmail.com>.
Thanks for the feedback, but I had already checked that documentation. I 
want to understand j_security_check on a deeper level; I especifically want 
to know how the process receives and handles the data from the form fileds; 
I need to know why they must be called j_username and j_password... In a 
word, I want to know its inner operation, not some arbitrary guidelines 
about how to create the forms. Not 'how' to use it, but 'why' does it behave 
in that way.


>From: David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>
>Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: Further documentation on j_security_check
>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100
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>
>http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253
>
>http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028
>
>Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
>http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html
>
>En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
>en ces termes:
> > I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
> > (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
> > worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must
> > be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
> > documentation about this process?
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Re: Further documentation on j_security_check

Posted by David Delbecq <de...@oma.be>.
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp182253

http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/Security5.html#wp498028

Also take a look at servlet 2.4 specifications, section SRV12.5.3
http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr154/index.html

En l'instant précis du 01/24/07 13:24, Langas de los Langas s'exprimait
en ces termes:
> I have searched for documentation on the process j_security_check
> (form-based authentication), but have been unable to find anything
> worthy, just some brief explanation and a sample of the form that must
> be used with it. Anybody knows where can I find extensive
> documentation about this process?
>
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> extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/
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