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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
On 19/11/12 11:20, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> we have had a brainstorming round and came up with the suggestion "Apache Marmotta" as a new name. We looked a bit and the name seems not to be taken yet, so there would probably no legal issues with the name.
>
> Why "Marmotta"? It is Italian for "marmot", one of the predominant animals in the mountains around us. It also is very social (i.e. "links") and digs deep tunnels (looks for data). It is more or less easy to pronounce (only contains a and o as vowels and no unpronouncible combinations). The animal itself has typically a very positive association (cute) and would also provide easy branding with images and logos.
>
> What do you think?
The helpful documentation is at:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sebastian
For Marmot (English spelling, added by Google as I am in the UK) found:
http://www.lrz.de/services/software/parallel/marmot/
http://burlymarmot.com/ - a software company.
which is a different spelling so helps differentiate.
Andy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 19.11.2012 13:15, Benson Margulies wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 19/11/12 11:20, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> we have had a brainstorming round and came up with the suggestion "Apache
>>> Marmotta" as a new name. We looked a bit and the name seems not to be taken
>>> yet, so there would probably no legal issues with the name.
> A big +1. The small furry logo opportunities rival a certain famous elephant.
And it helps (?) that it's easy to associate with gopher. You know, that
internet search thing? Incidentally also a furry rodent ...
-- Brane
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmür <re...@apache.org>.
FYI, I've created a wiki page describing in how far Clerezza complies with
the Linked Data Platform Recommendations:
http://wiki.apache.org/clerezza/LinkedDataPlatform
Clerezza is currently discussing graduation, an issue is that the project
covers two quite distinct areas, one being an RDF API with respective
adapters and tools and the other an OSGi based linked data platform and
framework for building Semantic Web apps.
Not sure in how far you think we could pool effort. IIUC the Marmotta
proposal is based on an open source project that has been around since 2008
so a lot of technological choices have already been taken.
Reto
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Sergio Fernández <
sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
> Sure, Thomas, all details that improve the readability of the proposal are
> always welcomed :-)
>
>
> On 21/11/12 12:32, Thomas Kurz wrote:
>
>> Hi Sergio,
>>
>> maybe you can add links to the Linked Media Framework in the Background
>> section, too. I know it is linked later in the text, but a reader, who
>> isn't familiar to LMF gets lost here. Same for the mentioned modules
>> (LDPath, etc.).
>> All the other things are fine.
>>
>> Best,
>> Thomas
>>
>> Am 21.11.2012 um 12:18 schrieb Sergio Fernández<sergio.fernandez@**
>> salzburgresearch.at <se...@salzburgresearch.at>>:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I'd point out that we have updated the proposal taking into account the
>>> comments of this thread. The new version of the text can be found at the
>>> wiki:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/MarmottaProposal<http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MarmottaProposal>
>>>
>>> Please, feel free to tell us anything else that deems relevant.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for all the feedback received.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sergio Fernández
>>> Salzburg Research
>>> +43 662 2288 318
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
OK, I get it. We've got that in process.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Sergio Fernández
<se...@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
> Benson,
> everything is fine regarding Nandana, but we're still awaiting a formal
> resolution about Fabian Christ.
>
>
> On 26.11.2012 21:15, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> Andy, who's missing? N..... is now formally a member.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> A quick update on the Marmotta proposal.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone for the comments. The proposal should reflect the
>>> discussions.
>>>
>>> One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC so we're waiting
>>> until we have three formal mentors before calling the proposal vote.
>>>
>>> (and still, ideally, looking for an experienced mentor - I'm looking like
>>> the old timer on the projects mentor list!)
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Benson,
everything is fine regarding Nandana, but we're still awaiting a formal
resolution about Fabian Christ.
On 26.11.2012 21:15, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Andy, who's missing? N..... is now formally a member.
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>> A quick update on the Marmotta proposal.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the comments. The proposal should reflect the
>> discussions.
>>
>> One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC so we're
>> waiting
>> until we have three formal mentors before calling the proposal vote.
>>
>> (and still, ideally, looking for an experienced mentor - I'm looking
>> like
>> the old timer on the projects mentor list!)
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Andy, who's missing? N..... is now formally a member.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> A quick update on the Marmotta proposal.
>
> Thanks everyone for the comments. The proposal should reflect the
> discussions.
>
> One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC so we're waiting
> until we have three formal mentors before calling the proposal vote.
>
> (and still, ideally, looking for an experienced mentor - I'm looking like
> the old timer on the projects mentor list!)
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Monday, November 26, 2012, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> ...One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC so
> we're waiting until we have three formal mentors before calling
> the proposal vote....
IMO you can go forward with the vote and indicate that having Fabian as a
mentor is "pending final Incubator PMC membership approval" as we did with
Flex, see http://markmail.org/message/puo2rtrvby65lb3m
-Bertrand
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
A quick update on the Marmotta proposal.
Thanks everyone for the comments. The proposal should reflect the
discussions.
One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC so we're waiting
until we have three formal mentors before calling the proposal vote.
(and still, ideally, looking for an experienced mentor - I'm looking
like the old timer on the projects mentor list!)
Andy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Sure, Thomas, all details that improve the readability of the proposal
are always welcomed :-)
On 21/11/12 12:32, Thomas Kurz wrote:
> Hi Sergio,
>
> maybe you can add links to the Linked Media Framework in the Background section, too. I know it is linked later in the text, but a reader, who isn't familiar to LMF gets lost here. Same for the mentioned modules (LDPath, etc.).
> All the other things are fine.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
>
> Am 21.11.2012 um 12:18 schrieb Sergio Fernández<se...@salzburgresearch.at>:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'd point out that we have updated the proposal taking into account the comments of this thread. The new version of the text can be found at the wiki:
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MarmottaProposal
>>
>> Please, feel free to tell us anything else that deems relevant.
>>
>> Thanks so much for all the feedback received.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>> Sergio Fernández
>> Salzburg Research
>> +43 662 2288 318
>> Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
>> A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
>> http://www.salzburgresearch.at
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Thomas Kurz <th...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Hi Sergio,
maybe you can add links to the Linked Media Framework in the Background section, too. I know it is linked later in the text, but a reader, who isn't familiar to LMF gets lost here. Same for the mentioned modules (LDPath, etc.).
All the other things are fine.
Best,
Thomas
Am 21.11.2012 um 12:18 schrieb Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>:
> Dear all,
>
> I'd point out that we have updated the proposal taking into account the comments of this thread. The new version of the text can be found at the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MarmottaProposal
>
> Please, feel free to tell us anything else that deems relevant.
>
> Thanks so much for all the feedback received.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Sergio Fernández
> Salzburg Research
> +43 662 2288 318
> Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
> A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
> http://www.salzburgresearch.at
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Dear all,
I'd point out that we have updated the proposal taking into account the
comments of this thread. The new version of the text can be found at the
wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MarmottaProposal
Please, feel free to tell us anything else that deems relevant.
Thanks so much for all the feedback received.
Best,
--
Sergio Fernández
Salzburg Research
+43 662 2288 318
Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
http://www.salzburgresearch.at
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 20/11/12 10:05, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we were internally discussing that the project would benefit a lot from
> having a mentor outside of the core Semantic Web community. Then he/she
> could help us to address those issues of which are not fully aware when
> you work so close in a topic. For instance, someone from the REST
> community would be great! Any volunteer(s)?
>
> Cheers,
>
Two of the three mentors are new to mentoring and fairly new to Apache,
each having done once round the incubator loop in a recent projects
(Jena, Stanbol) as project members. We're feeling a bit light on Apache
history and breadth.
The project would benefit from a mentor with a longer Apache history -
someone who can give a wider perspective about culture and community -
who ensures we establish the wider ideals of the foundation into the
Marmotta community.
Volunteer?
(Or a mentor-mentor?)
Andy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Hi,
we were internally discussing that the project would benefit a lot from
having a mentor outside of the core Semantic Web community. Then he/she
could help us to address those issues of which are not fully aware when
you work so close in a topic. For instance, someone from the REST
community would be great! Any volunteer(s)?
Cheers,
--
Sergio Fernández
Salzburg Research
+43 662 2288 318
Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
http://www.salzburgresearch.at
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 19/11/12 11:20, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we have had a brainstorming round and came up with the suggestion "Apache
>> Marmotta" as a new name. We looked a bit and the name seems not to be taken
>> yet, so there would probably no legal issues with the name.
A big +1. The small furry logo opportunities rival a certain famous elephant.
>>
>> Why "Marmotta"? It is Italian for "marmot", one of the predominant animals
>> in the mountains around us. It also is very social (i.e. "links") and digs
>> deep tunnels (looks for data). It is more or less easy to pronounce (only
>> contains a and o as vowels and no unpronouncible combinations). The animal
>> itself has typically a very positive association (cute) and would also
>> provide easy branding with images and logos.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
>
> The helpful documentation is at:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Sebastian
>
>
> For Marmot (English spelling, added by Google as I am in the UK) found:
>
> http://www.lrz.de/services/software/parallel/marmot/
>
> http://burlymarmot.com/ - a software company.
>
> which is a different spelling so helps differentiate.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
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