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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Andrew Dent - CTCroydon <ad...@comptroub.com> on 2016/01/19 06:08:06 UTC

OfBiz POS for Weighbridge

Hi

An existing customer of ours is looking to replace their Weighbridge 
software.
I haven't used or implemented the OfBiz POS module before, but for this 
customer it might be a good fit.
I'm wondering if anyone else has done this, and maybe like to assist 
with this project.

There are two 60 ton Weighbridges on site.
Each Weighbridge has a PC in a local building with a RS232 connected 
Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator box 
http://www.a1weighing.com.au/5000.htm
that the Load Cells of the Weighbridge terminate into.

My thoughts are that the data stream from the Rinstrum 5000 Digital 
Indicator would be displayed to the user in OfBiz.
There are obviously lots of other requirements, but the data from the 
RS232 is the main requirement that I do not know how to display in 
realtime on the OfBiz or OfBiz POS UI.

I have a Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator that I can use for software dev 
purposes, with some resistors arranged to pretend to be a Loadcell.

Regards

Andrew Dent

Re: OfBiz POS for Weighbridge

Posted by Ron Wheeler <rw...@artifact-software.com>.
You probably need a process that listens to the RS232 feed from the 
Weighbridge and records data and events.
This process could have a web service that would allow OFBiz to 
interrogate the process to get current status or recent events.

I would be most comfortable with a separate box to replace the Digital 
Indicator with a real-time display and let the OFBiz server ask this 
machine for what it needs.
- I am assuming that this process needs to be available even if OFBiz is 
not running.
- The RS232 link has no protocol so it does not have any error recovery 
if the listener is not able to capture the Weighbridge data so a 
dedicated PC  is going to make operations more comfortable than a link 
to a server that IT may stop and start without regard to operations needs.
- a warm backup unit could be kept by operations to ensure that a 
failure of the main box does not shut down operations for an extended 
period.

You probably need to provide some more details about what data and 
events are captured and what OFBiz needs to present.
- real-time vs history
- display vs reports
- actions triggered in OFBiz by events captured from the Weighbridge

You may also want to provide some details about your thoughts on 
synchronization of permanent data vs real-time display.
- allowable lag for transferring event details
- what triggers bulk data transfer - does the listener push data to 
OFBiz or does OFBiz ask for data.


Ron

On 19/01/2016 12:08 AM, Andrew Dent - CTCroydon wrote:
> Hi
>
> An existing customer of ours is looking to replace their Weighbridge 
> software.
> I haven't used or implemented the OfBiz POS module before, but for 
> this customer it might be a good fit.
> I'm wondering if anyone else has done this, and maybe like to assist 
> with this project.
>
> There are two 60 ton Weighbridges on site.
> Each Weighbridge has a PC in a local building with a RS232 connected 
> Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator box http://www.a1weighing.com.au/5000.htm
> that the Load Cells of the Weighbridge terminate into.
>
> My thoughts are that the data stream from the Rinstrum 5000 Digital 
> Indicator would be displayed to the user in OfBiz.
> There are obviously lots of other requirements, but the data from the 
> RS232 is the main requirement that I do not know how to display in 
> realtime on the OfBiz or OfBiz POS UI.
>
> I have a Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator that I can use for software 
> dev purposes, with some resistors arranged to pretend to be a Loadcell.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew Dent


-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102


Re[2]: OfBiz POS for Weighbridge

Posted by Andrew Dent - CTCroydon <ad...@comptroub.com>.
Hi Ruth

Your idea to use the Chrome App platform looks interesting.
I didn't know Chrome could do that and I will keep it in mind.

Regards

Andrew Dent

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rh...@gmail.com>
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: 20-1-2016 3:23:47 AM
Subject: Re: OfBiz POS for Weighbridge

>Hi Andrew:
>Something one of my clients and I have been looking at:
>
>The Google Chrome App platform. Not sure if this would work with an 
>RS232 interface, but with a USB device it is possible to write Chrome 
>Apps (using Javascript) to control the device and transfer data. Once 
>Chrome has hold of the data, it seems like an HTTP/S post, storage in 
>cookies and/or saving the data to an OFBiz aware/attached disk - could 
>allow OFBiz access.
>
>Perhaps too simplistic for your application.
>
>If interested, here is a link that I found really informative:
>https://trenvo.com/blog/2015/01/interacting-usb-hid-devices-web-apps/
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Best Regards,
>Ruth Hoffman
>
>On 1/19/16 12:08 AM, Andrew Dent - CTCroydon wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>An existing customer of ours is looking to replace their Weighbridge 
>>software.
>>I haven't used or implemented the OfBiz POS module before, but for 
>>this customer it might be a good fit.
>>I'm wondering if anyone else has done this, and maybe like to assist 
>>with this project.
>>
>>There are two 60 ton Weighbridges on site.
>>Each Weighbridge has a PC in a local building with a RS232 connected 
>>Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator box 
>>http://www.a1weighing.com.au/5000.htm
>>that the Load Cells of the Weighbridge terminate into.
>>
>>My thoughts are that the data stream from the Rinstrum 5000 Digital 
>>Indicator would be displayed to the user in OfBiz.
>>There are obviously lots of other requirements, but the data from the 
>>RS232 is the main requirement that I do not know how to display in 
>>realtime on the OfBiz or OfBiz POS UI.
>>
>>I have a Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator that I can use for software 
>>dev purposes, with some resistors arranged to pretend to be a 
>>Loadcell.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Andrew Dent
>


Re: OfBiz POS for Weighbridge

Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrew:
Something one of my clients and I have been looking at:

The Google Chrome App platform. Not sure if this would work with an 
RS232 interface, but with a USB device it is possible to write Chrome 
Apps (using Javascript) to control the device and transfer data. Once 
Chrome has hold of the data, it seems like an HTTP/S post, storage in 
cookies and/or saving the data to an OFBiz aware/attached disk - could 
allow OFBiz access.

Perhaps too simplistic for your application.

If interested, here is a link that I found really informative:
https://trenvo.com/blog/2015/01/interacting-usb-hid-devices-web-apps/

Just a thought.

Best Regards,
Ruth Hoffman

On 1/19/16 12:08 AM, Andrew Dent - CTCroydon wrote:
> Hi
>
> An existing customer of ours is looking to replace their Weighbridge 
> software.
> I haven't used or implemented the OfBiz POS module before, but for 
> this customer it might be a good fit.
> I'm wondering if anyone else has done this, and maybe like to assist 
> with this project.
>
> There are two 60 ton Weighbridges on site.
> Each Weighbridge has a PC in a local building with a RS232 connected 
> Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator box http://www.a1weighing.com.au/5000.htm
> that the Load Cells of the Weighbridge terminate into.
>
> My thoughts are that the data stream from the Rinstrum 5000 Digital 
> Indicator would be displayed to the user in OfBiz.
> There are obviously lots of other requirements, but the data from the 
> RS232 is the main requirement that I do not know how to display in 
> realtime on the OfBiz or OfBiz POS UI.
>
> I have a Rinstrum 5000 Digital Indicator that I can use for software 
> dev purposes, with some resistors arranged to pretend to be a Loadcell.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew Dent