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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by "Tyagi, Rahul" <ra...@bearingpoint.com> on 2005/06/22 22:04:14 UTC
Geronimo and JSR-237 WorkManager API for App Servers
Hello Team!!
Recent version of leading app servers are supporting "JSR-237 Work Manager for Application Server". I believe JSR-237 is simple and powerful API for writing robust parallel processing application for managed environment. Prior to that developers used to open non managed threads for accomplishing parallel processing in J2EE container, , Obviously which is not a recommended way!!
I think JSR-237 is a major step in writing scalable parallel processing application within managed environment.
I am curious whether we have plan to support JSR-237 in future releases of Geronimo, If community see benefit of adding JSR-237 to Geronimo I can volunteer to implement JSR-237 for Geronimo.
Thanks,
Rahul Tyagi
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Re: Geronimo and JSR-237 WorkManager API for App Servers
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Tyagi, Rahul wrote:
> ...
> I think JSR-237 is a major step in writing scalable parallel processing
> application within managed environment.
Can you give us some more detail on what JSR-237 requires from the app
server?
Also, the footer block below needs to go! :)
Thanks,
Aaron
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Re: Geronimo and JSR-237 WorkManager API for App Servers
Posted by Andy Piper <an...@bea.com>.
An alternative here would be using commonJ. Although 237 will be the
eventual J2EE standard for this it is only just getting started and will
almost certainly depend on the JSR 166 APIs (which use generics) that are
integrated into J2SE 5. 237 is unlikely to be substantially different to
commonJ and commonJ is already supported in several major appservers (WAS
and WLS surprise, surprise!).
The only issue with this is the legal status of the API which BEA and IBM
currently own the IPR for. I expect its possible to unencumber it, but I
could be wrong. I will investigate if there is any interest.
I do think that the "work"-style API is the correct one to standardize on
internally, but I wouldn't hold your breath for 237 for this - better to
define your own or use something already out there.
andy
At 05:04 PM 6/22/2005, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Tyagi, Rahul wrote:
>
>>
>>Hello Team!!
>>
>>Recent version of leading app servers are supporting "JSR-237 Work
>>Manager for Application Server". I believe JSR-237 is simple and
>>powerful API for writing robust parallel processing application for
>>managed environment. Prior to that developers used to open non
>>managed threads for accomplishing parallel processing in J2EE
>>container, , Obviously which is not a recommended way!!
>>
>>I think JSR-237 is a major step in writing scalable parallel
>>processing application within managed environment.
>>
>>I am curious whether we have plan to support JSR-237 in future
>>releases of Geronimo, If community see benefit of adding JSR-237 to
>>Geronimo I can volunteer to implement JSR-237 for Geronimo.
>
>Some of us have indicated a general interest in participating in the
>JSR, and doing an implementation here at the the ASF in the Geronimo
>project. So.... Have at it. Thanks for volunteering. As you've
>probably noticed, working with the rest of the community, especially
>David Jencks, will be important. Don't be shy about asking for
>ideas, help and discussion.
>
>geir
>
>--
>Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>geirm@apache.org
>
Re: Geronimo and JSR-237 WorkManager API for App Servers
Posted by "Thomas P. Fuller" <th...@coherentlogic.com>.
All,
If you plan on pursuing this, I'd like to contribute.
-- Thomas Fuller
--- "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Tyagi, Rahul wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Team!!
> >
> > Recent version of leading app servers are
> supporting "JSR-237 Work
> > Manager for Application Server". I believe JSR-237
> is simple and
> > powerful API for writing robust parallel
> processing application for
> > managed environment. Prior to that developers used
> to open non
> > managed threads for accomplishing parallel
> processing in J2EE
> > container, , Obviously which is not a recommended
> way!!
> >
> > I think JSR-237 is a major step in writing
> scalable parallel
> > processing application within managed environment.
> >
> > I am curious whether we have plan to support
> JSR-237 in future
> > releases of Geronimo, If community see benefit of
> adding JSR-237 to
> > Geronimo I can volunteer to implement JSR-237 for
> Geronimo.
>
> Some of us have indicated a general interest in
> participating in the
> JSR, and doing an implementation here at the the ASF
> in the Geronimo
> project. So.... Have at it. Thanks for
> volunteering. As you've
> probably noticed, working with the rest of the
> community, especially
> David Jencks, will be important. Don't be shy about
> asking for
> ideas, help and discussion.
>
> geir
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr
> +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: Geronimo and JSR-237 WorkManager API for App Servers
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Tyagi, Rahul wrote:
>
> Hello Team!!
>
> Recent version of leading app servers are supporting "JSR-237 Work
> Manager for Application Server". I believe JSR-237 is simple and
> powerful API for writing robust parallel processing application for
> managed environment. Prior to that developers used to open non
> managed threads for accomplishing parallel processing in J2EE
> container, , Obviously which is not a recommended way!!
>
> I think JSR-237 is a major step in writing scalable parallel
> processing application within managed environment.
>
> I am curious whether we have plan to support JSR-237 in future
> releases of Geronimo, If community see benefit of adding JSR-237 to
> Geronimo I can volunteer to implement JSR-237 for Geronimo.
Some of us have indicated a general interest in participating in the
JSR, and doing an implementation here at the the ASF in the Geronimo
project. So.... Have at it. Thanks for volunteering. As you've
probably noticed, working with the rest of the community, especially
David Jencks, will be important. Don't be shy about asking for
ideas, help and discussion.
geir
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: Geronimo and JSR-237 WorkManager API for App Servers
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
I saw only a very early draft of this JSR, which IMO had the fatal
defect of not explaining the semantics of transactions when using the
thread pool. Has the current version of the spec added any discussion
of transactions?
thanks
david jencks
On Jun 22, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Tyagi, Rahul wrote:
>
> Hello Team!!
>
> Recent version of leading app servers are supporting "JSR-237 Work
> Manager for Application Server". I believe JSR-237 is simple and
> powerful API for writing robust parallel processing application for
> managed environment. Prior to that developers used to open non managed
> threads for accomplishing parallel processing in J2EE container, ,
> Obviously which is not a recommended way!!
>
> I think JSR-237 is a major step in writing scalable parallel
> processing application within managed environment.
>
> I am curious whether we have plan to support JSR-237 in future
> releases of Geronimo, If community see benefit of adding JSR-237 to
> Geronimo I can volunteer to implement JSR-237 for Geronimo.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rahul Tyagi
>
>
>
>
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