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[jira] Created: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Import OODT Agility?
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                 Key: OODT-6
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6
             Project: OODT
          Issue Type: Question
    Affects Versions: 0.1-incubating
         Environment: N/A
            Reporter: Sean Kelly
             Fix For: 0.1-incubating


A spinoff of Object Oriented Data Technology (OODT) was OODT Agility, a Python-based release of the query, profile, product, and webgrid components of OODT. Read more at http://agility.jpl.nasa.gov/

OODT Agility is currently in production use in:

- International Planetary Data Alliance's Planetary Data Access Protocol, see http://planetarydata.org/
- Early Detection Research Network's public portal, see http://edrn.nci.nih.gov/
- Early Detection Research Network's virtual specimen bank, see https://ginger.fhcrc.org/edrn/imp/GateServlet?pwd=
- Planetary Data System's Venus Express, see http://atmos.nmsu.edu:8081/pdsvex

OODT Agility is being used to actively develop additional projects at JPL.

Does the Incubator want to take OODT Agility under its aegis as well?

If so, should we do an svndump+import cycle to preserve revision history or is it sufficient for me to just check in the latest code?

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Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> We should probably document or propose a release process, and maybe upload
> it to the wiki, at:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OODT

Yup, I'd highly recommend having documented release policies.  I
posted httpd and Subversion's, but there are others flying around too
that we can crib off of.  -- justin

Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by Sean Kelly <se...@mac.com>.
Oh greaaaaaat. ^_^


On 2010.Mar.22, at 8.30a, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:

> Thanks dude. When we nail down what we're releasing and how for 0.1-incubating I still nominate you to be RM! ;)


Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Thanks dude. When we nail down what we're releasing and how for 0.1-incubating I still nominate you to be RM! ;)

Cheers,
Chris



On 3/22/10 6:00 AM, "Sean Kelly" <se...@mac.com> wrote:

OK guys, thanks for the explanations.

I've removed the 1.0.0 release files and metadata from the Cheese Shop and updated svn repository as well. It's as if this "release" never happened.




On 2010.Mar.21, at 10.19p, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sean Kelly <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>> In general, the same meaning as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Software_release
>>
>> Or if that URL is too long, http://is.gd/aSaA7
>>
>> I can probably assume that since you're asking, I must've done something wrong-right?
>
> Sadly, yah.  (But, this is the point of the Incubator to sort these
> issues out...)
>
> Releases of Apache code are done via a consensus review process - so
> any one individual can not 'release' a project by themselves - it
> requires the PMC to approve it.
>
> Here's some recommended reading:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html
> http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html
>
> The general process is that someone posts a prospective release
> candidate to the list, at least 3 PMC members review it and approve
> it, then it can be an official release.
>
> I see Chris just emailed with some similar points, so I'll stop
> browbeating ya now.  *grin*
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.  -- justin




++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by Sean Kelly <se...@mac.com>.
OK guys, thanks for the explanations.

I've removed the 1.0.0 release files and metadata from the Cheese Shop and updated svn repository as well. It's as if this "release" never happened.




On 2010.Mar.21, at 10.19p, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sean Kelly <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>> In general, the same meaning as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Software_release
>> 
>> Or if that URL is too long, http://is.gd/aSaA7
>> 
>> I can probably assume that since you're asking, I must've done something wrong—right?
> 
> Sadly, yah.  (But, this is the point of the Incubator to sort these
> issues out...)
> 
> Releases of Apache code are done via a consensus review process - so
> any one individual can not 'release' a project by themselves - it
> requires the PMC to approve it.
> 
> Here's some recommended reading:
> 
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html
> http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html
> 
> The general process is that someone posts a prospective release
> candidate to the list, at least 3 PMC members review it and approve
> it, then it can be an official release.
> 
> I see Chris just emailed with some similar points, so I'll stop
> browbeating ya now.  *grin*
> 
> Please let me know if you have any questions.  -- justin


Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sean Kelly <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> In general, the same meaning as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Software_release
>
> Or if that URL is too long, http://is.gd/aSaA7
>
> I can probably assume that since you're asking, I must've done something wrong—right?

Sadly, yah.  (But, this is the point of the Incubator to sort these
issues out...)

Releases of Apache code are done via a consensus review process - so
any one individual can not 'release' a project by themselves - it
requires the PMC to approve it.

Here's some recommended reading:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html
http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html

The general process is that someone posts a prospective release
candidate to the list, at least 3 PMC members review it and approve
it, then it can be an official release.

I see Chris just emailed with some similar points, so I'll stop
browbeating ya now.  *grin*

Please let me know if you have any questions.  -- justin

Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hey Sean,

I think the issue is that we can¹t officially release anything in Apache
unless it¹s signed off by at least three members of the Incubator Project
Management Committee (IPMC). Also, we should probably decide how Agility
fits into the release of the rest of the OODT components. Typically the
first Incubator release is called ³0.1-incubating², per:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#naming

Information on how to make Incubator releases is here:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#intro

It¹s also good practice for us to gauge the community IMO, with an email
suggesting we¹re planning a release and then someone volunteering (or being
nominated) to be a release manager.

Interestingly enough, Apache releases need to live on Apache mirrors I
believe, so I think even if package metadata is published to PyPI, then the
source distros would still need to live at Apache. Also interesting is how
Agility should mesh with the rest of the OODT components < for OODT-15, we
were planning on making all OODT sub components live under a common
incubator/oodt/trunk. The idea I had in my mind would then be to have an
apache-oodt-0.1-incubating.tar.gz release containing all of the source code
e.g., 

incubator/oodt/tags/0.1-incubating
    /filemgr
    /workflow
    /profile
    /product
    /agility
 ...

I think we could then do things as part of the release process like:

* publish Maven artifacts of the filemgr, workflow, profile, product, etc.
to the Maven central repos
* publish Python artifacts to PyPi, e.g., for Agility

We should probably document or propose a release process, and maybe upload
it to the wiki, at:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OODT

Let me know what you guys think. Of course, comments from mentors here, or
advice, are also appreciated...

Cheers,
Chris

On 3/21/10 5:34 PM, "Sean Kelly" <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> In general, the same meaning as
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Software_release
> 
> Or if that URL is too long, http://is.gd/aSaA7
> 
> I can probably assume that since you're asking, I must've done something
> wrong<right?
> 
> --k
> 
> 
> On 2010.Mar.21, at 7.20p, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Sean Kelly (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 1.0.0 release
>>>   http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/o/oodt/oodt-1.0.0.tar.gz
>> 
>> What does "release" mean in this context?  -- justin
> 
> 


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by Sean Kelly <ke...@apache.org>.
In general, the same meaning as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Software_release

Or if that URL is too long, http://is.gd/aSaA7

I can probably assume that since you're asking, I must've done something wrong—right?

--k


On 2010.Mar.21, at 7.20p, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Sean Kelly (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 1.0.0 release
>>   http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/o/oodt/oodt-1.0.0.tar.gz
> 
> What does "release" mean in this context?  -- justin


Re: [jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Sean Kelly (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
> 1.0.0 release
>    http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/o/oodt/oodt-1.0.0.tar.gz

What does "release" mean in this context?  -- justin

[jira] Resolved: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by "Sean Kelly (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Sean Kelly resolved OODT-6.
---------------------------

    Resolution: Won't Fix

Screw it.

1. The history for OODT Agility isn't that deep.

2. Between svdumpfilter, svndumpfilter2, svndumpfilter3, svndumpfilter4, and various hand-made patches to the damn programs, exporting just agility/agile-oodt from JPL's OODT repository may as well be in-fsck'n-possible.

I will commit the latest revs of the code by hand.

> Import OODT Agility?
> --------------------
>
>                 Key: OODT-6
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6
>             Project: OODT
>          Issue Type: Question
>    Affects Versions: 0.1-incubating
>         Environment: N/A
>            Reporter: Sean Kelly
>             Fix For: 0.1-incubating
>
>
> A spinoff of Object Oriented Data Technology (OODT) was OODT Agility, a Python-based release of the query, profile, product, and webgrid components of OODT. Read more at http://agility.jpl.nasa.gov/
> OODT Agility is currently in production use in:
> - International Planetary Data Alliance's Planetary Data Access Protocol, see http://planetarydata.org/
> - Early Detection Research Network's public portal, see http://edrn.nci.nih.gov/
> - Early Detection Research Network's virtual specimen bank, see https://ginger.fhcrc.org/edrn/imp/GateServlet?pwd=
> - Planetary Data System's Venus Express, see http://atmos.nmsu.edu:8081/pdsvex
> OODT Agility is being used to actively develop additional projects at JPL.
> Does the Incubator want to take OODT Agility under its aegis as well?
> If so, should we do an svndump+import cycle to preserve revision history or is it sufficient for me to just check in the latest code?

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[jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by "Justin Erenkrantz (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12841144#action_12841144 ] 

Justin Erenkrantz commented on OODT-6:
--------------------------------------

If you guys want the history, +1 for importing a dump.

(I believe the software grant already on file for OODT should cover Agility.)

> Import OODT Agility?
> --------------------
>
>                 Key: OODT-6
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6
>             Project: OODT
>          Issue Type: Question
>    Affects Versions: 0.1-incubating
>         Environment: N/A
>            Reporter: Sean Kelly
>             Fix For: 0.1-incubating
>
>
> A spinoff of Object Oriented Data Technology (OODT) was OODT Agility, a Python-based release of the query, profile, product, and webgrid components of OODT. Read more at http://agility.jpl.nasa.gov/
> OODT Agility is currently in production use in:
> - International Planetary Data Alliance's Planetary Data Access Protocol, see http://planetarydata.org/
> - Early Detection Research Network's public portal, see http://edrn.nci.nih.gov/
> - Early Detection Research Network's virtual specimen bank, see https://ginger.fhcrc.org/edrn/imp/GateServlet?pwd=
> - Planetary Data System's Venus Express, see http://atmos.nmsu.edu:8081/pdsvex
> OODT Agility is being used to actively develop additional projects at JPL.
> Does the Incubator want to take OODT Agility under its aegis as well?
> If so, should we do an svndump+import cycle to preserve revision history or is it sufficient for me to just check in the latest code?

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[jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by "Chris A. Mattmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12840049#action_12840049 ] 

Chris A. Mattmann commented on OODT-6:
--------------------------------------

My 2 cents:

{quote}
Does the Incubator want to take OODT Agility under its aegis as well? 
{quote}

+1, I think it does.

{quote}
If so, should we do an svndump+import cycle to preserve revision history or is it sufficient for me to just check in the latest code?
{quote}

My +1 to importing using rev history, if @joes is willing and able. Joe, Justin, thoughts? You guys busy this weekend? ^_^

Cheers,
Chris


> Import OODT Agility?
> --------------------
>
>                 Key: OODT-6
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6
>             Project: OODT
>          Issue Type: Question
>    Affects Versions: 0.1-incubating
>         Environment: N/A
>            Reporter: Sean Kelly
>             Fix For: 0.1-incubating
>
>
> A spinoff of Object Oriented Data Technology (OODT) was OODT Agility, a Python-based release of the query, profile, product, and webgrid components of OODT. Read more at http://agility.jpl.nasa.gov/
> OODT Agility is currently in production use in:
> - International Planetary Data Alliance's Planetary Data Access Protocol, see http://planetarydata.org/
> - Early Detection Research Network's public portal, see http://edrn.nci.nih.gov/
> - Early Detection Research Network's virtual specimen bank, see https://ginger.fhcrc.org/edrn/imp/GateServlet?pwd=
> - Planetary Data System's Venus Express, see http://atmos.nmsu.edu:8081/pdsvex
> OODT Agility is being used to actively develop additional projects at JPL.
> Does the Incubator want to take OODT Agility under its aegis as well?
> If so, should we do an svndump+import cycle to preserve revision history or is it sufficient for me to just check in the latest code?

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[jira] Commented: (OODT-6) Import OODT Agility?

Posted by "Sean Kelly (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12847992#action_12847992 ] 

Sean Kelly commented on OODT-6:
-------------------------------

Agile OODT is now under Apache aegis.

Source in repository
    https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/oodt/agility/agile-oodt
Cheeseshop
    http://pypi.python.org/pypi/oodt
1.0.0 release
    http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/o/oodt/oodt-1.0.0.tar.gz

> Import OODT Agility?
> --------------------
>
>                 Key: OODT-6
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-6
>             Project: OODT
>          Issue Type: Question
>    Affects Versions: 0.1-incubating
>         Environment: N/A
>            Reporter: Sean Kelly
>             Fix For: 0.1-incubating
>
>
> A spinoff of Object Oriented Data Technology (OODT) was OODT Agility, a Python-based release of the query, profile, product, and webgrid components of OODT. Read more at http://agility.jpl.nasa.gov/
> OODT Agility is currently in production use in:
> - International Planetary Data Alliance's Planetary Data Access Protocol, see http://planetarydata.org/
> - Early Detection Research Network's public portal, see http://edrn.nci.nih.gov/
> - Early Detection Research Network's virtual specimen bank, see https://ginger.fhcrc.org/edrn/imp/GateServlet?pwd=
> - Planetary Data System's Venus Express, see http://atmos.nmsu.edu:8081/pdsvex
> OODT Agility is being used to actively develop additional projects at JPL.
> Does the Incubator want to take OODT Agility under its aegis as well?
> If so, should we do an svndump+import cycle to preserve revision history or is it sufficient for me to just check in the latest code?

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