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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> on 2013/06/02 11:57:34 UTC

[VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
thread for info about motivations):

http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo

The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
Swiz Framework.

Points taken from the original vote thread:

* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).


Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:

1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
favoritism.
3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.

This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours

Please make your vote.

Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Hi Justin,

I send Chris some emails to ask him for action, but no response yet. I just
post in the swiz group mailing list some minutes ago since I don't know
what's happening. Maybe Chris is very busy? or maybe some email
communication problem? Really I don't know...

I'll continue pinging trying to get some response from him

Best,

Carlos



2013/6/20 Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>

> Hi,
>
> Any news on this?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>



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Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

Any news on this?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Thanks Mike,

I'll forward to Chris so he can chek it.

Best

Carlos

2013/6/6 Michael A. Labriola <la...@digitalprimates.net>

> >We could not in good conscience accept a donation without written, clear
> intentions from the author. I suspect it will require a software grant and
> the author will need to go through some legal paperwork to assent >that he
> has ownership of the code and is willing to donate it to the ASF.
>
> >I need to get more familiar with the details of what is required for the
> ASF to accept software donations, but it's a complicated subject and time
> is short. I do know that we want to be very sure we have all the details
> >in order so we can be confident in saying that we have the right to
> continue to produce the software.
>
> I can verify this from my experience with FlexUnit. It's a multistep
> process. This is what Bertrand provided me a while back and it's the
> starting point Chris must likely follow:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>
> Mike
>
>


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RE: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by "Michael A. Labriola" <la...@digitalprimates.net>.
>We could not in good conscience accept a donation without written, clear intentions from the author. I suspect it will require a software grant and the author will need to go through some legal paperwork to assent >that he has ownership of the code and is willing to donate it to the ASF.

>I need to get more familiar with the details of what is required for the ASF to accept software donations, but it's a complicated subject and time is short. I do know that we want to be very sure we have all the details >in order so we can be confident in saying that we have the right to continue to produce the software.

I can verify this from my experience with FlexUnit. It's a multistep process. This is what Bertrand provided me a while back and it's the starting point Chris must likely follow:

http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt

Mike


Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

> hehe I only want to say that history is written in the internet so is easy
> to prove that Chris Scott is the author, but I see that he must prove it
> himself.
>

We could not in good conscience accept a donation without written, clear
intentions from the author. I suspect it will require a software grant and
the author will need to go through some legal paperwork to assent that he
has ownership of the code and is willing to donate it to the ASF.

I need to get more familiar with the details of what is required for the
ASF to accept software donations, but it's a complicated subject and time
is short. I do know that we want to be very sure we have all the details in
order so we can be confident in saying that we have the right to continue
to produce the software.

Greg

Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 6/6/13 9:00 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

>2013/6/6 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>
>> Ugh. I have to watch a video?  What am I looking for in that video?
>>
>>
>hehe I only want to say that history is written in the internet so is easy
>to prove that Chris Scott is the author, but I see that he must prove it
>himself.
Yes, because I am the author of many parts of the SDK, but I never "owned"
it, Adobe did.

>
>better wait for his email to follow up :)
>
>Best,
>
>Carlos


Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
2013/6/6 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>

> Ugh. I have to watch a video?  What am I looking for in that video?
>
>
hehe I only want to say that history is written in the internet so is easy
to prove that Chris Scott is the author, but I see that he must prove it
himself.

better wait for his email to follow up :)

Best,

Carlos

Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Ugh. I have to watch a video?  What am I looking for in that video?

But what I think really matters is what the source code and on-line
documentation says.

Once I see his email, then we should go take a harder look.

-Alex

On 6/6/13 8:47 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

>Hi Alex,
>
>I emailed Chris just after the vote results email and I'm waiting for his
>response. Hope he could write us soon.
>
>For ownership I think he is the only owner of repo, but could this be
>valid?
>
>http://tomkrcha.com/?p=1680
>
>Carlos
>
>
>2013/6/6 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>
>> Yes, Chris needs get on our email list and put it in writing that he
>>wants
>> to donate.
>>
>> I think we need some proof of ownership.  Does he own the code or some
>> corporation or business entity that he belongs to.
>>
>> I think he will need to sign an ICLA.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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>Carlos Rovira
>Director de Tecnología
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>F:  +34 912 94 80 80
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>http://www.avant2.es


Re: Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Hi Alex,

I emailed Chris just after the vote results email and I'm waiting for his
response. Hope he could write us soon.

For ownership I think he is the only owner of repo, but could this be valid?

http://tomkrcha.com/?p=1680

Carlos


2013/6/6 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>

> Yes, Chris needs get on our email list and put it in writing that he wants
> to donate.
>
> I think we need some proof of ownership.  Does he own the code or some
> corporation or business entity that he belongs to.
>
> I think he will need to sign an ICLA.
>
> -Alex
>
> >
>
>


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F:  +34 912 94 80 80
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http://www.avant2.es

Swiz Donation: Next Steps (was Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Yes, Chris needs get on our email list and put it in writing that he wants
to donate.

I think we need some proof of ownership.  Does he own the code or some
corporation or business entity that he belongs to.

I think he will need to sign an ICLA.

-Alex

>


[VOTE][RESULTS] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Here we have the vote results:

*+1 Binding*

OmPrakash Muppirala
Justin Mclean
Erik de Bruin
Frederic Thomas
Sebastian Mohr
Jeff Tapper
Alex Harui

*0 Binding*

Jeffry Houser

*-1 Binding*

Igor Costa

*+1 Non-Binding*

Carlos Rovira
Joao Fernandes
Cyrill Zadra
aYo
Jose Barragan
Arnoud Bos
Margo Powell
Sumudu Chinthaka
Vicker Leung
Mark Kessler
Carlos Velasco


The vote pass with 7 +1-Binding, 1 0-Binding, 1 -1-Binding and 11
Non-Binding votes


Hope some PMC could give us the next steps. For me some of them should be:

* Comunicate in swiz-framework mailing list that this vote results
* Ask Chris Scott to write an email in this mailing list to express his
desire of donation.
* See If other swiz committers like Ben or Brian should sign as well.
* I remember Alex said that some IIRC sign should be made for Chris. This
could be pointed in response to Chris when he write his email to this list
asking for the step he should do to complete donation.
* Prepare repo to receive the donation.
* ...other points to take into account provided by Mentors and PMCs?

Thanks again to all for your contribution, discussion and votes and to make
this happen.

Best,

Carlos



2013/6/6 Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>

> After more than 72 hours, I'm closing the vote, refer to the next
> [Vote][Results] thread for the follow up
>
> Thanks to all for your vote and contribution
>
> Carlos Rovira
>
>
>
> 2013/6/4 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>
>> +1 binding
>>
>> On 6/4/13 9:02 AM, "Jeff Tapper" <je...@spoon.as> wrote:
>>
>> >+1 binding
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf
>> >Of
>> >Carlos Rovira
>> >Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
>> >To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> >Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
>> >Donation
>> >
>> >This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
>> >original
>> >thread for info about motivations):
>> >
>> >http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>> >
>> >The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
>> >Swiz
>> >Framework.
>> >
>> >Points taken from the original vote thread:
>> >
>> >* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
>> >with a
>> >microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
>> >designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
>> >optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
>> >version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
>> there's
>> >no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
>> >working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
>> >wiki
>> >content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
>> >of
>> >Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
>> >support,
>> >a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it brings
>> >something very new to client web technologies and that will require
>> >evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>> >
>> >
>> >Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>> >
>> >1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
>> >into a
>> >folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
>> >2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
>> >The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
>> >need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
>> >favoritism.
>> >3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
>> >4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
>> process.
>> >
>> >This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>> >
>> >Please make your vote.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> Director de Tecnología
> M: +34 607 22 60 05
>
> F:  +34 912 94 80 80
> http://www.codeoscopic.com
> http://www.directwriter.es
> http://www.avant2.es
>



-- 
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Director de Tecnología
M: +34 607 22 60 05
F:  +34 912 94 80 80
http://www.codeoscopic.com
http://www.directwriter.es
http://www.avant2.es

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
After more than 72 hours, I'm closing the vote, refer to the next
[Vote][Results] thread for the follow up

Thanks to all for your vote and contribution

Carlos Rovira



2013/6/4 Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>

> +1 binding
>
> On 6/4/13 9:02 AM, "Jeff Tapper" <je...@spoon.as> wrote:
>
> >+1 binding
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf
> >Of
> >Carlos Rovira
> >Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
> >To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> >Donation
> >
> >This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> >original
> >thread for info about motivations):
> >
> >http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> >
> >The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> >Swiz
> >Framework.
> >
> >Points taken from the original vote thread:
> >
> >* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> >with a
> >microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> >designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> >optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> >version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> >no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> >working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> >wiki
> >content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
> >of
> >Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> >support,
> >a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it brings
> >something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> >evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> >
> >
> >Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> >
> >1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> >into a
> >folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> >2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> >The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> >need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> >favoritism.
> >3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> >4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
> >
> >This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> >
> >Please make your vote.
> >
>
>


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Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
+1 binding

On 6/4/13 9:02 AM, "Jeff Tapper" <je...@spoon.as> wrote:

>+1 binding
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf
>Of
>Carlos Rovira
>Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
>To: dev@flex.apache.org
>Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
>Donation
>
>This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
>original
>thread for info about motivations):
>
>http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>
>The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
>Swiz
>Framework.
>
>Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
>* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
>with a
>microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
>designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
>optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
>version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
>no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
>working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
>wiki
>content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
>of
>Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
>support,
>a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it brings
>something very new to client web technologies and that will require
>evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
>Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
>1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
>into a
>folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
>2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
>The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
>need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
>favoritism.
>3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
>4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
>This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
>Please make your vote.
>


RE: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Jeff Tapper <je...@spoon.as>.
+1 binding

-----Original Message-----
From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Carlos Rovira
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
Donation

This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
thread for info about motivations):

http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo

The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC Swiz
Framework.

Points taken from the original vote thread:

* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with a
microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP support,
a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it brings
something very new to client web technologies and that will require
evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).


Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:

1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into a
folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
favoritism.
3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.

This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours

Please make your vote.


Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Sebastian Mohr <fl...@gmail.com>.
+1 (binding)


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:59 PM, João Fernandes <
joaopedromartinsfernandes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Igor, have you read the proposal? it's stated that it will not be part of
> the SDK and will be totally optional.
>
>
> On 3 June 2013 16:51, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 (binding)
> >
> > -----Message d'origine----- From: Carlos Rovira
> > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 11:57 AM
> >
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> > Donation
> >
> > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> original
> > thread for info about motivations):
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/**o6zjmorfh4lxuygo<
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo>
> >
> > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> > Swiz Framework.
> >
> > Points taken from the original vote thread:
> >
> > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> with
> > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
> there's
> > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> wiki
> > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
> of
> > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since
> it
> > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
> require
> > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> >
> >
> > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> >
> > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> into
> > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> > favoritism.
> > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
> process.
> >
> > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> >
> > Please make your vote.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> João Fernandes
>



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Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by João Fernandes <jo...@gmail.com>.
Igor, have you read the proposal? it's stated that it will not be part of
the SDK and will be totally optional.


On 3 June 2013 16:51, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Carlos Rovira
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 11:57 AM
>
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> Donation
>
> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
> thread for info about motivations):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/**o6zjmorfh4lxuygo<http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo>
>
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
>
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
> Please make your vote.
>



-- 

João Fernandes

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
+1 (binding)

-----Message d'origine----- 
From: Carlos Rovira
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 11:57 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework 
Donation

This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
thread for info about motivations):

http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo

The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
Swiz Framework.

Points taken from the original vote thread:

* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).


Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:

1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
favoritism.
3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.

This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours

Please make your vote. 


Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by João Fernandes <jo...@gmail.com>.
Igor, again, why are you against the proposal? We clearly need to
understand why you are voting -1 so we can address the issue.


On 3 June 2013 13:12, Igor Costa <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:

> -1 (Binding)
>
> ----------------------------
> Igor Costa
> www.igorcosta.com
> www.igorcosta.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Carlos Velasco <
> carlos.velasco.blanco@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/3 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >
> > > +1 (non binding)
> > >
> > > I like the new verbiage better.
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On
> Behalf
> > > Of Carlos Rovira
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> > > Donation
> > >
> > > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> > original
> > > thread for info about motivations):
> > >
> > > http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> > >
> > > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> > > Swiz Framework.
> > >
> > > Points taken from the original vote thread:
> > >
> > > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> > with
> > > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> > > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> > > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> > > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
> > there's
> > > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> > > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> > wiki
> > > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott
> (creator
> > of
> > > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> > > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex
> since
> > it
> > > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
> > require
> > > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> > >
> > > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> > into
> > > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> > > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the
> SDK.
> > > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.
>  People
> > > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> > > favoritism.
> > > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> > > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
> > process.
> > >
> > > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> > >
> > > Please make your vote.
> > >
> >
>



-- 

João Fernandes

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Igor Costa <ig...@gmail.com>.
-1 (Binding)

----------------------------
Igor Costa
www.igorcosta.com
www.igorcosta.org


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Carlos Velasco <
carlos.velasco.blanco@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
>
> 2013/6/3 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>
> > +1 (non binding)
> >
> > I like the new verbiage better.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf
> > Of Carlos Rovira
> > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> > Donation
> >
> > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> original
> > thread for info about motivations):
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> >
> > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> > Swiz Framework.
> >
> > Points taken from the original vote thread:
> >
> > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> with
> > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
> there's
> > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> wiki
> > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
> of
> > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since
> it
> > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
> require
> > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> >
> >
> > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> >
> > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> into
> > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> > favoritism.
> > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
> process.
> >
> > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> >
> > Please make your vote.
> >
>

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Carlos Velasco <ca...@gmail.com>.
+1


2013/6/3 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>

> +1 (non binding)
>
> I like the new verbiage better.
>
> -Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Carlos Rovira
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> Donation
>
> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
> thread for info about motivations):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
>
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
> Please make your vote.
>

RE: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
+1 (non binding)

I like the new verbiage better.

-Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: carlos.rovira@gmail.com [mailto:carlos.rovira@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Rovira
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 5:58 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
thread for info about motivations):

http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo

The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
Swiz Framework.

Points taken from the original vote thread:

* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).


Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:

1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
favoritism.
3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.

This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours

Please make your vote.

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Jose Barragan <jo...@codeoscopic.com>.
+1
--
Jose Barragan
Chief Software Architect
Codeoscopic Madrid
C/. Infanta Mercedes, 92. 
Planta 5.  505.
28020 Madrid.
Tel.: +34 912 94 80 80

On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:09 PM, "aYo ~" <ay...@binitie.com> wrote:

> +1 - I defer to Alex's suggetions
> 
> ~a~
> www.ayobinitie.com
> http://mrbinitie.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> On 2 June 2013 10:06, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> +1 Binding
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:02 AM, João Fernandes
>> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> +1 (non binding)
>>> 
>>> To me, all those points were already clear in the previous thread.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 June 2013 10:57, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1 (non binding)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2013/6/2 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>>> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
>>>>> original thread for info about motivations):
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional
>> MVC/IOC
>>>>> Swiz Framework.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Points taken from the original vote thread:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
>>>> with
>>>>> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
>>>>> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
>>>>> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
>>>>> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
>>>> there's
>>>>> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
>>>>> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
>>>> wiki
>>>>> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott
>> (creator
>>>> of
>>>>> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
>>>>> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex
>> since
>>>> it
>>>>> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
>>>> require
>>>>> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
>>>> into
>>>>> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
>>>>> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the
>> SDK.
>>>>> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.
>> People
>>>>> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
>>>>> favoritism.
>>>>> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
>>>>> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
>>>> process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please make your vote.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> João Fernandes
>> 


Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>.
+1 - I defer to Alex's suggetions

~a~
www.ayobinitie.com
http://mrbinitie.blogspot.com


On 2 June 2013 10:06, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 Binding
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:02 AM, João Fernandes
> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1 (non binding)
> >
> > To me, all those points were already clear in the previous thread.
> >
> >
> > On 2 June 2013 10:57, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 (non binding)
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/6/2 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
> >>
> >> > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> >> > original thread for info about motivations):
> >> >
> >> > http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> >> >
> >> > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional
> MVC/IOC
> >> > Swiz Framework.
> >> >
> >> > Points taken from the original vote thread:
> >> >
> >> > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> >> with
> >> > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> >> > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> >> > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> >> > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
> >> there's
> >> > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> >> > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> >> wiki
> >> > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott
> (creator
> >> of
> >> > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> >> > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex
> since
> >> it
> >> > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
> >> require
> >> > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> >> >
> >> > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> >> into
> >> > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> >> > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the
> SDK.
> >> > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.
>  People
> >> > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> >> > favoritism.
> >> > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> >> > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
> >> process.
> >> >
> >> > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> >> >
> >> > Please make your vote.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > João Fernandes
>

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
+1 Binding

Thanks,
Om

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:02 AM, João Fernandes
<jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (non binding)
>
> To me, all those points were already clear in the previous thread.
>
>
> On 2 June 2013 10:57, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 (non binding)
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/2 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
>>
>> > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
>> > original thread for info about motivations):
>> >
>> > http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>> >
>> > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
>> > Swiz Framework.
>> >
>> > Points taken from the original vote thread:
>> >
>> > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
>> with
>> > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
>> > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
>> > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
>> > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
>> there's
>> > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
>> > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
>> wiki
>> > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
>> of
>> > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
>> > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since
>> it
>> > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
>> require
>> > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>> >
>> > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
>> into
>> > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
>> > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
>> > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
>> > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
>> > favoritism.
>> > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
>> > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
>> process.
>> >
>> > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>> >
>> > Please make your vote.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> João Fernandes

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by João Fernandes <jo...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non binding)

To me, all those points were already clear in the previous thread.


On 2 June 2013 10:57, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:

> +1 (non binding)
>
>
> 2013/6/2 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>
>
> > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> > original thread for info about motivations):
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> >
> > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> > Swiz Framework.
> >
> > Points taken from the original vote thread:
> >
> > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> with
> > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
> there's
> > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> wiki
> > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
> of
> > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since
> it
> > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
> require
> > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> >
> >
> > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> >
> > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> into
> > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> > favoritism.
> > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
> process.
> >
> > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> >
> > Please make your vote.
> >
> >
>



-- 

João Fernandes

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
+1 (non binding)


2013/6/2 Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>

> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> original thread for info about motivations):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
>
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
> Please make your vote.
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
0 [Binding]

On 6/2/2013 5:57 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote:
> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
> thread for info about motivations):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
>
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
> Please make your vote.
>


-- 
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773


Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Arnoud Bos <ar...@artim-interactive.nl>.
+1 (non binding)

Arnoud Bos

On 02-06-2013, at 11:57, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:

> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
> thread for info about motivations):
> 
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> 
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
> 
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
> 
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> 
> 
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> 
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
> 
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> 
> Please make your vote.






Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Cyrill Zadra <cy...@gmail.com>.
+1

On 02.06.2013, at 17:57, Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org> wrote:

> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
> thread for info about motivations):
> 
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> 
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
> 
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
> 
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> 
> 
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> 
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
> 
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> 
> Please make your vote.

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Igor Costa <ig...@gmail.com>.
I've explained in my previous e-mail, why I vote -1 (binding).


Maybe you missed the e-mail on previous thread. But here's the mention.

A year back, someone at Flex Brazil group asked me why we couldn't simple
> have a MVC approach into the SDK.
> My short answer was We prefer you decide which way you want to code,
> rather than force you on our perspective way.
> For mature and freedom of choice we should not have such only a way of
> coding, like explicit someone to code on that specific way.
> We have a plethora of Flex frameworks out there, if we include one, we
> should include all of it.
> For the freedom of choice that's why I voted -1.


----------------------------
Igor Costa
www.igorcosta.com
www.igorcosta.org


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dasa Paddock <dp...@esri.com> wrote:

> +1 (non binding)
>

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Dasa Paddock <dp...@esri.com>.
+1 (non binding)

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Sumudu Chinthaka <cs...@gmail.com>.
+1

Sumudu Jayasinghe
Senior Software Engineer
Information System Associates
P. O. Box 132, Sharjah
United Arab Emirates
www.isa.ae


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Margo Powell <ma...@msn.com> wrote:

> +1 non binding
>
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:57:34 +0200
> > Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework
> Donation
> > From: carlosrovira@apache.org
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >
> > This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
> original
> > thread for info about motivations):
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> >
> > The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> > Swiz Framework.
> >
> > Points taken from the original vote thread:
> >
> > * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK
> with
> > a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> > designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> > optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> > version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now
> there's
> > no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> > working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
> wiki
> > content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
> of
> > Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> > support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since
> it
> > brings something very new to client web technologies and that will
> require
> > evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> >
> >
> > Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> >
> > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go
> into
> > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> > favoritism.
> > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same
> process.
> >
> > This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> >
> > Please make your vote.
>
>

RE: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Margo Powell <ma...@msn.com>.
+1 non binding

> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:57:34 +0200
> Subject: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation
> From: carlosrovira@apache.org
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> 
> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see original
> thread for info about motivations):
> 
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
> 
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
> 
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
> 
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
> 
> 
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
> 
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
> 
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
> 
> Please make your vote.
 		 	   		  

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Vicker Leung <vi...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non binding)

Cheers
Vicker

> Erik de Bruin <ma...@ixsoftware.nl>
> 2 June, 2013 11:24 PM
> +1 (binding)
>
> EdB
>
>
>
>
>
> Justin Mclean <ma...@classsoftware.com>
> 2 June, 2013 10:31 PM
> +1 (binding)
> Carlos Rovira <ma...@apache.org>
> 2 June, 2013 5:57 PM
> This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see 
> original
> thread for info about motivations):
>
> http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>
> The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
> Swiz Framework.
>
> Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
> * Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
> a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
> designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
> optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
> version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
> no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
> working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and 
> wiki
> content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott 
> (creator of
> Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
> support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex 
> since it
> brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
> evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
> Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
> 1) Swiz goes in its own repo. The original proposal says it could go into
> a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
> 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
> The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal. People
> need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
> favoritism.
> 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
> 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
> This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
> Please make your vote.
>

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
+1 (binding)

EdB



On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> +1 (binding)



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Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
+1 (binding)

Re: [VOTE] Oprtional MVC/IOC Frameworks Donation: Swiz Framework Donation

Posted by Peter Ent <pe...@adobe.com>.
+1 (binding)

Peter Ent
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems

On 6/2/13 5:57 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <ca...@apache.org> wrote:

>This vote comes from an original vote thread declared as null (see
>original
>thread for info about motivations):
>
>http://markmail.org/message/o6zjmorfh4lxuygo
>
>The new vote thread is considering the donation of the optional MVC/IOC
>Swiz Framework.
>
>Points taken from the original vote thread:
>
>* Swiz is a great addition to Apache Flex since it complements de SDK with
>a microarquitecture for application MVC, IOC, DI very simple and well
>designed. * This will be a project like flexunit or utilities. So it's
>optional a NOT part of the main sdk. * Swiz is already in 1.4.0 stable
>version, under Apache License 2.0, has its community and right now there's
>no maintenance or upgrade since people behind the project is no longer
>working with Flex technology. * Donation will be 1.4.0 source code and
>wiki
>content. * Future plans: if donation is successful, Chris Scott (creator
>of
>Swiz) will want to donate experimental 2.0.0 branch that brings AOP
>support, a feature that could bring a great benefit to Apache Flex since
>it
>brings something very new to client web technologies and that will require
>evolution at compiler level (introducing compile time weaving).
>
>
>Here's the new points from Alex Harui to make clear what it implies:
>
>1) Swiz goes in its own repo.  The original proposal says it could go into
>a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model.
>2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK.
>The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal.  People
>need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or
>favoritism.
>3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism.
>4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same process.
>
>This vote thread will be open for the next 72 hours
>
>Please make your vote.