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SIP-10 Improve Getting Started experience
Dear all,
Based on the discussion in SOLR-14726, Slack, and in many other JIRA
issues, I am proposing to spearhead the Big Cleanup focused on
improving getting started experience, targeting Solr 9 only. This is
mostly about examples, but it also touches quite heavily on default
configuration files and - less heavily - on the directory layout
issues.
As this is bigger than any of my previous contributions to the project
and is quite cross-cutting, I've made a Solr Improvement Proposal.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-10+Improve+Getting+Started+experience
Regards,
Alex.
Ps. As a side note, in many of the discussions, people say "I would
prefer if we did X", but with the reality of "X" not being complete,
actually fully tested or even applicable to the
standalone/cloud/whatever aspect of the discussion. Those preferences
are still welcome, but I am begging for explicit qualification of
their current availability for the critical path. This proposal is an
attempt to minimize dependence on actual new code features.
Pps. I am also very aware that the proposal implies lots of
semi-related changes and I will end up potentially stepping on
people's feet. And I don't yet know the proper flow of work to do this
(individual Jiras, combined Jiras, separate branch(s), etc). I would
really need advice or a mentor or even a group of mentors to make this
happen in a community-minded fashion.
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Re: SIP-10 Improve Getting Started experience
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
+1 to this effort and thanks for stepping up.
I think we shouldn't unnecessarily constrain ourselves only with what works
today: if there's something that is clearly better, let's fix/build it so
that we have a pleasant user experience. Just my two cents. Case in point:
data driven schemaless mode. Let's remove/fix/build alternatives so that
starting experience is smooth.
On Thu, 27 Aug, 2020, 1:12 am Alexandre Rafalovitch, <ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on the discussion in SOLR-14726, Slack, and in many other JIRA
> issues, I am proposing to spearhead the Big Cleanup focused on
> improving getting started experience, targeting Solr 9 only. This is
> mostly about examples, but it also touches quite heavily on default
> configuration files and - less heavily - on the directory layout
> issues.
>
> As this is bigger than any of my previous contributions to the project
> and is quite cross-cutting, I've made a Solr Improvement Proposal.
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-10+Improve+Getting+Started+experience
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> Ps. As a side note, in many of the discussions, people say "I would
> prefer if we did X", but with the reality of "X" not being complete,
> actually fully tested or even applicable to the
> standalone/cloud/whatever aspect of the discussion. Those preferences
> are still welcome, but I am begging for explicit qualification of
> their current availability for the critical path. This proposal is an
> attempt to minimize dependence on actual new code features.
> Pps. I am also very aware that the proposal implies lots of
> semi-related changes and I will end up potentially stepping on
> people's feet. And I don't yet know the proper flow of work to do this
> (individual Jiras, combined Jiras, separate branch(s), etc). I would
> really need advice or a mentor or even a group of mentors to make this
> happen in a community-minded fashion.
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
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>
Re: SIP-10 Improve Getting Started experience
Posted by Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>.
+100
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:11 AM, David Smiley <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you!
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on the discussion in SOLR-14726, Slack, and in many other JIRA
> issues, I am proposing to spearhead the Big Cleanup focused on
> improving getting started experience, targeting Solr 9 only. This is
> mostly about examples, but it also touches quite heavily on default
> configuration files and - less heavily - on the directory layout
> issues.
>
> As this is bigger than any of my previous contributions to the project
> and is quite cross-cutting, I've made a Solr Improvement Proposal.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-10+Improve+Getting+Started+experience
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> Ps. As a side note, in many of the discussions, people say "I would
> prefer if we did X", but with the reality of "X" not being complete,
> actually fully tested or even applicable to the
> standalone/cloud/whatever aspect of the discussion. Those preferences
> are still welcome, but I am begging for explicit qualification of
> their current availability for the critical path. This proposal is an
> attempt to minimize dependence on actual new code features.
> Pps. I am also very aware that the proposal implies lots of
> semi-related changes and I will end up potentially stepping on
> people's feet. And I don't yet know the proper flow of work to do this
> (individual Jiras, combined Jiras, separate branch(s), etc). I would
> really need advice or a mentor or even a group of mentors to make this
> happen in a community-minded fashion.
>
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Re: SIP-10 Improve Getting Started experience
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on the discussion in SOLR-14726, Slack, and in many other JIRA
> issues, I am proposing to spearhead the Big Cleanup focused on
> improving getting started experience, targeting Solr 9 only. This is
> mostly about examples, but it also touches quite heavily on default
> configuration files and - less heavily - on the directory layout
> issues.
>
> As this is bigger than any of my previous contributions to the project
> and is quite cross-cutting, I've made a Solr Improvement Proposal.
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-10+Improve+Getting+Started+experience
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> Ps. As a side note, in many of the discussions, people say "I would
> prefer if we did X", but with the reality of "X" not being complete,
> actually fully tested or even applicable to the
> standalone/cloud/whatever aspect of the discussion. Those preferences
> are still welcome, but I am begging for explicit qualification of
> their current availability for the critical path. This proposal is an
> attempt to minimize dependence on actual new code features.
> Pps. I am also very aware that the proposal implies lots of
> semi-related changes and I will end up potentially stepping on
> people's feet. And I don't yet know the proper flow of work to do this
> (individual Jiras, combined Jiras, separate branch(s), etc). I would
> really need advice or a mentor or even a group of mentors to make this
> happen in a community-minded fashion.
>
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