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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by "Salgar, Mehmet" <Me...@t-mobile.de> on 2004/01/14 10:08:14 UTC
AW: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
Hello everybody,
I am following this discussion for very long time, it is really interesting.
I am developing both Java and MS stuff. Mainly I am a Java developer but I have few .NET projects also in the mean time.
I have to say that with Struts, JSP is a much attractive tool (with Velocity it is very very interesting tool :)) ) but I have to say that with ASP.NET and web control MS has a nodge over Java at the moment.
But I am sure when Java Server Faces will be ready, everything will be same again.
PS. If you need real numbers I can say that at this moment Web Controls give % 30 less development times over the controls like TreeView, Menu Controls, fully functional Rich Text Editor as Web Control.
And a question, do you know is there any library in Java producing the functionality of the View States.
Regards,
Mehmet Salgar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@apache.org]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2003 23:57
An: Struts Users Mailing List
Betreff: RE: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
Quoting "Hookom, Jacob" <Ja...@redline.mckhboc.com>:
> As a follow up to your "by hand" comment, isn't Sun developing a new GUI
> development tool to wizard-ize JSF?
>
Yes: http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/jscreator/index.html
Even if it weren't a product coming from the company I work for :-), this one
would have me tempted ...
Many other companies are promising support for JavaServer Faces in the near term
as well.
> Speaking of wizards, can JSF enforce flow in a wizard manner without
> additional modifications like Struts?
Depends on what you mean by "enforce" -- Struts doesn't really do anything to
enforce flows. However, both Struts and JavaServer Faces share the concept of
decoupling the actual name of the page to be displayed next from the business
logic that returns an outcome which the navigation decision is based on. In
Struts you do this by using <forward> declarations at the global or per-Action
level. In JavaServer Faces, you do this by defining navigation rules based on
the page you're currently on, the action method that was called (i.e. which
submit button was pushed), and what the logical outcome value was returned by
the action method.
>
> Thanks much!
>
Craig
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Re: AW: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
Posted by Matt Raible <li...@raibledesigns.com>.
The two Java libraries that I know of are JSP Tag Libraries - here are
links to their demo sites:
http://displaytag.org
http://raibledesigns.com/struts-menu
Matt
On Jan 14, 2004, at 2:08 AM, Salgar, Mehmet wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> I am following this discussion for very long time, it is really
> interesting.
>
> I am developing both Java and MS stuff. Mainly I am a Java developer
> but I have few .NET projects also in the mean time.
>
> I have to say that with Struts, JSP is a much attractive tool (with
> Velocity it is very very interesting tool :)) ) but I have to say that
> with ASP.NET and web control MS has a nodge over Java at the moment.
>
> But I am sure when Java Server Faces will be ready, everything will be
> same again.
>
> PS. If you need real numbers I can say that at this moment Web
> Controls give % 30 less development times over the controls like
> TreeView, Menu Controls, fully functional Rich Text Editor as Web
> Control.
>
> And a question, do you know is there any library in Java producing the
> functionality of the View States.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mehmet Salgar
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@apache.org]
> Gesendet am: Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2003 23:57
> An: Struts Users Mailing List
> Betreff: RE: .NET: We are just like Struts... only better.
>
> Quoting "Hookom, Jacob" <Ja...@redline.mckhboc.com>:
>
>> As a follow up to your "by hand" comment, isn't Sun developing a new
>> GUI
>> development tool to wizard-ize JSF?
>>
>
> Yes: http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/jscreator/index.html
>
> Even if it weren't a product coming from the company I work for :-),
> this one
> would have me tempted ...
>
> Many other companies are promising support for JavaServer Faces in the
> near term
> as well.
>
>> Speaking of wizards, can JSF enforce flow in a wizard manner without
>> additional modifications like Struts?
>
> Depends on what you mean by "enforce" -- Struts doesn't really do
> anything to
> enforce flows. However, both Struts and JavaServer Faces share the
> concept of
> decoupling the actual name of the page to be displayed next from the
> business
> logic that returns an outcome which the navigation decision is based
> on. In
> Struts you do this by using <forward> declarations at the global or
> per-Action
> level. In JavaServer Faces, you do this by defining navigation rules
> based on
> the page you're currently on, the action method that was called (i.e.
> which
> submit button was pushed), and what the logical outcome value was
> returned by
> the action method.
>
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>
> Craig
>
>
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