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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> on 2014/03/25 12:08:14 UTC
Flex on Windows 8
Hi,
I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
Chris
RE: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
Yes, that's also what I understand (but didn't test).
Windows 8 RT is pretty much like other mobile OSes (can run specific apps only )
And Windows 8 Pro can run everything a desktop PC can
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 13:44
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Flex on Windows 8
Correction, there are two OSes. Windows 8 pro, and Windows 8 RT. RT is the "mobile version only" And has no "desktop mode". Pro can do desktop.
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's my understanding. Yes.
>
> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Christofer Dutz <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
>> Ok so it doesn't seem to be a Thing of the Operating System itself, but
>> if it Comes with a full "Desktop" or if it's the small, stripped off
>> Version. Desktop can do Flash, stripped off (Some Tablets and all Mobile
>> Phones) Version can't?
>>
>> Chris
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 13:29
>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>>
>> I bought an acer windows tablet, specifically because I'm able to play
>> facebook flash games on it.
>>
>> However, the windows mobile phone, can not run AIR or Flash.
>>
>> It's not really accurate to say that the Windows "Tablet" is running
>> Flash,
>> but more that the windows Tablets are able to run Dekstop.
>>
>> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
>> and the number 47
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Christofer Dutz
>> <ch...@c-ware.de>wrote:
>>
>> > So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms
>> > (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to
>> > pieces at the ApacheCon?
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
>> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
>> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>> >
>> > So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full
>> > flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So
>> full
>> > hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of
>> > Flash player etc.
>> >
>> > The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think
>> > performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game
>> > full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without
>> > issues at all.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> > To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
>> > Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
>> > Subject: Flex on Windows 8
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and
>> > Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
>> >
>> > As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is
>> > this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available
>> ...
>> >
>> > I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same
>> > platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on
>> > Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
Correction, there are two OSes. Windows 8 pro, and Windows 8 RT. RT is
the "mobile version only" And has no "desktop mode". Pro can do desktop.
brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's my understanding. Yes.
>
> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> and the number 47
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Christofer Dutz <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
>> Ok so it doesn't seem to be a Thing of the Operating System itself, but
>> if it Comes with a full "Desktop" or if it's the small, stripped off
>> Version. Desktop can do Flash, stripped off (Some Tablets and all Mobile
>> Phones) Version can't?
>>
>> Chris
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 13:29
>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>>
>> I bought an acer windows tablet, specifically because I'm able to play
>> facebook flash games on it.
>>
>> However, the windows mobile phone, can not run AIR or Flash.
>>
>> It's not really accurate to say that the Windows "Tablet" is running
>> Flash,
>> but more that the windows Tablets are able to run Dekstop.
>>
>> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
>> and the number 47
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Christofer Dutz
>> <ch...@c-ware.de>wrote:
>>
>> > So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms
>> > (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to
>> > pieces at the ApacheCon?
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
>> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
>> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>> >
>> > So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full
>> > flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So
>> full
>> > hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of
>> > Flash player etc.
>> >
>> > The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think
>> > performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game
>> > full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without
>> > issues at all.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> > To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
>> > Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
>> > Subject: Flex on Windows 8
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and
>> > Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
>> >
>> > As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is
>> > this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available
>> ...
>> >
>> > I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same
>> > platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on
>> > Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
That's my understanding. Yes.
brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de>wrote:
> Ok so it doesn't seem to be a Thing of the Operating System itself, but if
> it Comes with a full "Desktop" or if it's the small, stripped off Version.
> Desktop can do Flash, stripped off (Some Tablets and all Mobile Phones)
> Version can't?
>
> Chris
> ________________________________________
> Von: Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 13:29
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>
> I bought an acer windows tablet, specifically because I'm able to play
> facebook flash games on it.
>
> However, the windows mobile phone, can not run AIR or Flash.
>
> It's not really accurate to say that the Windows "Tablet" is running Flash,
> but more that the windows Tablets are able to run Dekstop.
>
> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> and the number 47
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Christofer Dutz
> <ch...@c-ware.de>wrote:
>
> > So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms
> > (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to
> > pieces at the ApacheCon?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
> > An: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
> >
> > So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full
> > flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full
> > hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of
> > Flash player etc.
> >
> > The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think
> > performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game
> > full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without
> > issues at all.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> > To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
> > Subject: Flex on Windows 8
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and
> > Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
> >
> > As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is
> > this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
> >
> > I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same
> > platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on
> > Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
>
AW: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Ok so it doesn't seem to be a Thing of the Operating System itself, but if it Comes with a full "Desktop" or if it's the small, stripped off Version. Desktop can do Flash, stripped off (Some Tablets and all Mobile Phones) Version can't?
Chris
________________________________________
Von: Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 13:29
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
I bought an acer windows tablet, specifically because I'm able to play
facebook flash games on it.
However, the windows mobile phone, can not run AIR or Flash.
It's not really accurate to say that the Windows "Tablet" is running Flash,
but more that the windows Tablets are able to run Dekstop.
brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de>wrote:
> So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms
> (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to
> pieces at the ApacheCon?
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>
> So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full
> flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full
> hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of
> Flash player etc.
>
> The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think
> performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game
> full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without
> issues at all.
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
> Subject: Flex on Windows 8
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and
> Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
>
> As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is
> this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
>
> I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same
> platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on
> Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
Re: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
I bought an acer windows tablet, specifically because I'm able to play
facebook flash games on it.
However, the windows mobile phone, can not run AIR or Flash.
It's not really accurate to say that the Windows "Tablet" is running Flash,
but more that the windows Tablets are able to run Dekstop.
brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de>wrote:
> So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms
> (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to
> pieces at the ApacheCon?
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>
> So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full
> flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full
> hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of
> Flash player etc.
>
> The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think
> performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game
> full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without
> issues at all.
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
> Subject: Flex on Windows 8
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and
> Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
>
> As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is
> this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
>
> I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same
> platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on
> Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
Re: AW: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
The same is for Windows 8.1. Windows RT based systems (those with an ARM
processor instead of an Intel based processor) can only run browser-based
Flash/Flex apps. All other versions of Windows for tablets, laptops or
desktops support the Flash Player and AIR based applications. Adobe has
stated that at this time, there is no plans to support Windows Phone for
either Flash or AIR based apps due to the small (and decreasing) userbase.
-Nick
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
>
> I wouldn't say that. Here are specifics:
>
> 1) Windows 8 Desktop: Supports Flash Player / Adobe AIR apps
> 2) Windows 8 'Metro' UI: IE has an embedded version of Flash Player. No
> AIR support
> 3) Windows RT: IE has an embedded version of Flash Player; No AIR Support
> 4) Windows Phone: No support
>
>
> On 3/25/2014 8:26 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
>
>> So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms
>> (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to
>> pieces at the ApacheCon?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
>> An: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>>
>> So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full
>> flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full
>> hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of
>> Flash player etc.
>>
>> The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think
>> performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game
>> full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without
>> issues at all.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
>> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
>> Subject: Flex on Windows 8
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and
>> Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
>>
>> As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is
>> this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
>>
>> I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same
>> platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on
>> Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> \\\\\\\\\\\
>
> --
> Jeffry Houser
> Technical Entrepreneur
> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> 203-379-0773
>
>
Re: AW: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
I wouldn't say that. Here are specifics:
1) Windows 8 Desktop: Supports Flash Player / Adobe AIR apps
2) Windows 8 'Metro' UI: IE has an embedded version of Flash Player.
No AIR support
3) Windows RT: IE has an embedded version of Flash Player; No AIR Support
4) Windows Phone: No support
On 3/25/2014 8:26 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote:
> So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to pieces at the ApacheCon?
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
> An: dev@flex.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
>
> So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of Flash player etc.
>
> The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without issues at all.
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
> Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
> Subject: Flex on Windows 8
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
>
> As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
>
> I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
\\\\\\\\\\\
--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773
AW: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
So would you say it's safe to Claim that Flex runs on Windows Platforms (Desktop, Tablet & Mobile) or could some smart-ass-listeners rip me to pieces at the ApacheCon?
Chris
________________________________________
Von: flex@dfguy.us <fl...@dfguy.us>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 12:58
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Flex on Windows 8
So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of Flash player etc.
The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without issues at all.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
Subject: Flex on Windows 8
Hi,
I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
Chris
Re: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by fl...@dfguy.us.
So windows 8 tablets that have desktop mode can essentially run the full flash player and AIR. No wimpy mobile OS and junk mobile browser. So full hardware acceleration in flash player and no strange "mobile" version of Flash player etc.
The devices are also getting fast enough now that I don't think performance is a problem. My daughter was playing a flex based math game full of animations on a lenovo think pad tablet the other day without issues at all.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
To: "dev@flex.apache.org" <de...@flex.apache.org>
Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 6:08 AM
Subject: Flex on Windows 8
Hi,
I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
Chris
RE: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by after24 <vi...@after24.net>.
Hello,
I had the opportunity to test a large flex application on a surface 2 and I
must say that I have been very surprised on how well it wor
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RE: Flex on Windows 8
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
I am also asking myself. Didn't manage to get a Windows 8 device to try.
1) it seems Windows 8 RT and Windows 8 Pro are completely different beasts.
2) how do you use the tactile API with Flash on Windows 8. It seems that it's only available in AIR (airglobal.swc) but is it recognized and available ?
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Christofer Dutz [mailto:christofer.dutz@c-ware.de]
Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 12:08
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Flex on Windows 8
Hi,
I have to admit that currently I'm a Little confused about Flash and Windows 8 ... what is the current Status here?
As far as I could Google, a Flashplayer is available for Windows 8. Is this still correct? Then also the Captive Runtime should be available ...
I thought (sperdupercool) thing with Windows 8 is that you have the same platform from Mobile to Desktop ... so is is possible to use Flash on Windows 8 Mobile Phones and Tablets?
Chris