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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Borut Bolčina <bo...@najdi.si> on 2004/10/31 21:36:23 UTC

Sun App Server

Hi list!

This is my first posting here. I read a lot about Tapestry and I am pleased
to see the community growing each day. I have some background with Apple's
WebObjects so learning Tapestry won't force me to forget some programming
techniques, like if I was coming from JSP or Struts world. Currently I am
working on some JSP projects and only now I see how much more advanced tech
WebObjects and Tapestry are.

Most obvious "framework" to use together with Tapestry seems Cayenne, at
least as I see it now. Kind of resembles me of EOF (Enterprise Object
Framework). So, I have plotted my path for the near future and now I have a
question about deployment environment.

I am evaluating Sun Java&#8482; System Application Server Platform Edition 8 and
was wondering if Tapestry can live in this application server? The
documentation mentions Jetty, JBoss and Tomcat.

I was also wondering - is there a common repository for public Tapestry
components?

Have a nice day,
Borut

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Re: Sun App Server

Posted by Eric Schneider <er...@centralparksoftware.com>.
Borut,

The nhl.com is deployed on Sun's app server.   Tapestry will work fine.

If you have an EOF background, your O/R choice is easy, Cayenne.   I'd 
strongly suggest it over Hibernate...you'll go much further.

Cheers,
Eric

On Oct 31, 2004, at 3:36 PM, Borut Bolčina wrote:

> Hi list!
>
> This is my first posting here. I read a lot about Tapestry and I am 
> pleased
> to see the community growing each day. I have some background with 
> Apple's
> WebObjects so learning Tapestry won't force me to forget some 
> programming
> techniques, like if I was coming from JSP or Struts world. Currently I 
> am
> working on some JSP projects and only now I see how much more advanced 
> tech
> WebObjects and Tapestry are.
>
> Most obvious "framework" to use together with Tapestry seems Cayenne, 
> at
> least as I see it now. Kind of resembles me of EOF (Enterprise Object
> Framework). So, I have plotted my path for the near future and now I 
> have a
> question about deployment environment.
>
> I am evaluating Sun Java&#8482; System Application Server Platform 
> Edition 8 and
> was wondering if Tapestry can live in this application server? The
> documentation mentions Jetty, JBoss and Tomcat.
>
> I was also wondering - is there a common repository for public Tapestry
> components?
>
> Have a nice day,
> Borut
>
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>
>
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Re: Sun App Server

Posted by Bryan Lewis <br...@maine.rr.com>.
I too came from a WebObjects background, and I've been quite happy with
Cayenne. Its concepts are very similar to EOF's.  In fact it will import
your old EOModels.

There's been plenty of discussion in this list about the choice of
persistence layer.  It's clear that more than one candidate would work well
for you.  Try to structure your applications so that the presentation layer
has no dependence on the details of the back-end persistence layer.  For
instance, set yourself a rule that the Tapestry classes will have no Cayenne
imports.  That will make it relatively easy if you should ever decide to
switch to a different back end.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Borut Bolčina" <bo...@najdi.si>
To: <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 3:36 PM
Subject: Sun App Server


> Hi list!
>
> This is my first posting here. I read a lot about Tapestry and I am
pleased
> to see the community growing each day. I have some background with Apple's
> WebObjects so learning Tapestry won't force me to forget some programming
> techniques, like if I was coming from JSP or Struts world. Currently I am
> working on some JSP projects and only now I see how much more advanced
tech
> WebObjects and Tapestry are.
>
> Most obvious "framework" to use together with Tapestry seems Cayenne, at
> least as I see it now. Kind of resembles me of EOF (Enterprise Object
> Framework). So, I have plotted my path for the near future and now I have
a
> question about deployment environment.
>
> I am evaluating Sun Java&#8482; System Application Server Platform Edition
8 and
> was wondering if Tapestry can live in this application server? The
> documentation mentions Jetty, JBoss and Tomcat.
>
> I was also wondering - is there a common repository for public Tapestry
> components?
>
> Have a nice day,
> Borut
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Najdi.si Mail  http://mail.najdi.si/
>
>
>
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Re: Sun App Server

Posted by Omar Valerio <om...@gmail.com>.
Hi Borut,

Hope you like the list. They are very smart and gentle people hanging
around, and we all together benefit from their advise.

About your question, answer is that effectively you may use Tapestry
with the App Server you find yourself confortable. Tapestry is a
framework compatible with Servlet 2.3 spec, so if your App Server
support that spec, you won't have any problem. As a matter of fact I
have used Tapestry with Weblogic and Websphere, both of which aren't
mentioned in the documentation,  and Tapestry works just fine.

As for your common repository question, I encourage you to check the
t-deli (www.t-deli.com) site which host the Workbench and other candy
you may find useful.

There is also a repository, although I have forgot its name, but you
may find it out looking archive from the list.

Talking about ORM, I will suggest you to use Hibernate. Learning curve
is steep although the gainings you have in power and flexibility are
just great.

Have a nice day,
-----
Omar Valerio M.

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