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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM> on 2006/09/22 14:46:09 UTC
[JiniProposal] Choosing a new name...
Hi all-
I apologize for the gap in communication on our Proposal. Following
my summary post:
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
200608.mbox/%3c80E97718-AE5D-45A3-A15E-4640EFE8DB7D@sun.com%3e>
and list discussion, I believe choosing a new name for the project and
then updating our Proposal are the last bits before we can ask for an
incubator vote.
We've been fairly consumed by our "Jini Community Meeting" event
last week in Brussels (see the Jini.org front page for links to info
from
the event), so again, I'm sorry for not getting this closed sooner so we
can move on and (hopefully) get going.
As we're all too familiar with :-o -- picking a name (that everyone
likes)
is hard. In order to get as many creative ideas as possible, and have a
defined process (so that it doesn't drag out) for making a decision...
we'd like to:
* Gather Name Ideas -- through Tuesday, Sept 26
Ask both the Apache incubator and Jini Community for name
ideas. In order to not consume the lists with name mail, if
you could
send me, jim.hurley@sun.com your name ideas, and optionally
your
reasoning/meaning behind the name. I'd really appreciate it.
For example:
name: "Eden" -- reminds me of Barbara Eden from "I Dream
of Genie"!
;-)
* Choose the New Name (voting) -- Thursday, Sept 28 through
Monday, Oct 2
We'll take the list of ideas, make sure they pass TM, etc and
select a "top
ten choices" that we'll put up for an open vote. Whatever
name is supported
the most by the vote is the one we'll choose for the project.
If these dates feel too tight we can be a little pliable, but we are
hoping
to update our Proposal and have the voting (start) before the upcoming
ApacheCon if possible.
There's obviously an endless amount of ways to go about picking a
name...
this might not be the best, but we wanted to engage the Apache incubator
and our existing Community in contributing. We're betting that with
everyone's
creative juices flowing - we're going to collectively come up with a
cool name
that represents the project well and that most people like. I hope
you'll give us
your support.
thanks -Jim
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Re: [JiniProposal] Choosing a new name...
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
Thanks Geir.
It's certainly a viable alternative plan, but we're trying to match
up with
the history and culture we've created in the Jini Community of open
involvement, so it seems like goodness to engage more broadly and
give people a say.
We've had a number of good names submitted -- but I'm guessing the
winner is still out there... so please consider submitting a name.
Thanks.
Many of the names submitted so far have played off the "Jini" name or
space (e.g., the "Eden example below). An alternate direction is to just
propose something different and fun (which might just be a cool name
and not tied at all to the technology).
We'll welcome all ideas through today and then start the vetting
process.
Thanks again -Jim
On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> While we all appreciate you inviting the community to help, I also
> encourage the proposers to consider choosing a name among yourselves.
>
> There's nothing wrong with that, and as it's the project you are
> proposing, it's natural that you can choose the name.
>
> geir
> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> Hi all-
>>
>> I apologize for the gap in communication on our Proposal. Following
>> my summary post:
>> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200608.mbox/%3c80E97718-AE5D-45A3-A15E-4640EFE8DB7D@sun.com%3e>
>>
>> and list discussion, I believe choosing a new name for the project
>> and
>> then updating our Proposal are the last bits before we can ask for an
>> incubator vote.
>>
>> We've been fairly consumed by our "Jini Community Meeting" event
>> last week in Brussels (see the Jini.org front page for links to
>> info from
>> the event), so again, I'm sorry for not getting this closed sooner
>> so we
>> can move on and (hopefully) get going.
>>
>> As we're all too familiar with :-o -- picking a name (that
>> everyone likes)
>> is hard. In order to get as many creative ideas as possible, and
>> have a
>> defined process (so that it doesn't drag out) for making a
>> decision...
>> we'd like to:
>>
>> * Gather Name Ideas -- through Tuesday, Sept 26
>> Ask both the Apache incubator and Jini Community for name
>> ideas. In order to not consume the lists with name mail,
>> if you
>> could send me, jim.hurley@sun.com your name ideas, and
>> optionally your reasoning/meaning behind the name. I'd really
>> appreciate it. For example:
>> name: "Eden" -- reminds me of Barbara Eden from "I
>> Dream of
>> Genie"! ;-)
>>
>> * Choose the New Name (voting) -- Thursday, Sept 28 through
>> Monday, Oct 2
>> We'll take the list of ideas, make sure they pass TM, etc and
>> select a "top ten choices" that we'll put up for an open
>> vote. Whatever
>> name is supported the most by the vote is the one we'll
>> choose for
>> the project.
>>
>> If these dates feel too tight we can be a little pliable, but we
>> are hoping
>> to update our Proposal and have the voting (start) before the
>> upcoming
>> ApacheCon if possible.
>>
>> There's obviously an endless amount of ways to go about picking a
>> name...
>> this might not be the best, but we wanted to engage the Apache
>> incubator
>> and our existing Community in contributing. We're betting that with
>> everyone's creative juices flowing - we're going to collectively
>> come up
>> with a cool name that represents the project well and that most
>> people like.
>> I hope you'll give us your support.
>>
>> thanks -Jim
Re: [JiniProposal] Choosing a new name...
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
While we all appreciate you inviting the community to help, I also
encourage the proposers to consider choosing a name among yourselves.
There's nothing wrong with that, and as it's the project you are
proposing, it's natural that you can choose the name.
geir
Jim Hurley wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> I apologize for the gap in communication on our Proposal. Following
> my summary post:
> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200608.mbox/%3c80E97718-AE5D-45A3-A15E-4640EFE8DB7D@sun.com%3e>
>
> and list discussion, I believe choosing a new name for the project and
> then updating our Proposal are the last bits before we can ask for an
> incubator vote.
>
> We've been fairly consumed by our "Jini Community Meeting" event
> last week in Brussels (see the Jini.org front page for links to info from
> the event), so again, I'm sorry for not getting this closed sooner so we
> can move on and (hopefully) get going.
>
> As we're all too familiar with :-o -- picking a name (that everyone likes)
> is hard. In order to get as many creative ideas as possible, and have a
> defined process (so that it doesn't drag out) for making a decision...
> we'd like to:
>
> * Gather Name Ideas -- through Tuesday, Sept 26
> Ask both the Apache incubator and Jini Community for name
> ideas. In order to not consume the lists with name mail, if you
> could
> send me, jim.hurley@sun.com your name ideas, and optionally your
> reasoning/meaning behind the name. I'd really appreciate it. For
> example:
> name: "Eden" -- reminds me of Barbara Eden from "I Dream of
> Genie"!
> ;-)
>
> * Choose the New Name (voting) -- Thursday, Sept 28 through Monday,
> Oct 2
> We'll take the list of ideas, make sure they pass TM, etc and
> select a "top
> ten choices" that we'll put up for an open vote. Whatever name is
> supported
> the most by the vote is the one we'll choose for the project.
>
> If these dates feel too tight we can be a little pliable, but we are hoping
> to update our Proposal and have the voting (start) before the upcoming
> ApacheCon if possible.
>
> There's obviously an endless amount of ways to go about picking a name...
> this might not be the best, but we wanted to engage the Apache incubator
> and our existing Community in contributing. We're betting that with
> everyone's
> creative juices flowing - we're going to collectively come up with a
> cool name
> that represents the project well and that most people like. I hope
> you'll give us
> your support.
>
> thanks -Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JiniProposal] Choosing a new name...
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jim,
I'd like to encourage you to avoid picking anything that is already a
proper name, in other words an existing name which is normally
capitalised in western languages.
Using names which are already associated with people, places, events
or cultures is never likely to be universally acceptable and on the
whole is more likely to cause offence than to bring any lasting
positive associations.
For that reason I think that it is probably much easier if we avoid
the issue altogether, and I know that choosing project names isn't
easy but I'd ask you to add this consideration to the formula.
d.
On 22/09/06, Jim Hurley <Ji...@sun.com> wrote:
> As we're all too familiar with :-o -- picking a name (that everyone
> likes)
> is hard.
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