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[users@httpd] several instances of httpd running- is this normal?
I took a look at processes on the machine (MacOSX) and noticed several
instances of httpd running simutaniously. this isn't right, is it?
Jim
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Re: [users@httpd] several instances of httpd running- is this
normal?
Posted by Razvan Costea-Barlutiu <cb...@laitek.com>.
I am no MAC expert, but on Unixes, Apache spawns a copy of the whole
process for each client that's connected.
In Windows, you'd have threads for the connected clients instead of
processes (much cheaper than spawning a whole process).
So, I think what you have there is right...
--Razvan
At 09:07 03.02.2003 -0800, you wrote:
>I took a look at processes on the machine (MacOSX) and noticed several
>instances of httpd running simutaniously. this isn't right, is it?
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Re: [users@httpd] several instances of httpd running- is this
normal?
Posted by Razvan Costea-Barlutiu <cb...@laitek.com>.
I don't think you should reboot to be able to restart the server.
Are you stopping the Apache correctly? It is possible that the apache won't
start just because it is already running, hence the message you got.
--Razvan
At 10:29 03.02.2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Never mind... when I rebooted, I didn't sudo back in as root :)
>i'm learning :)
>Thanks for all the help!
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Re: [users@httpd] several instances of httpd running- is this
normal?
Posted by Jim Sheffer <ji...@blueworld.com>.
Never mind... when I rebooted, I didn't sudo back in as root :)
i'm learning :)
Thanks for all the help!
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:21:48 -0800, Jim Sheffer wrote:
> thanks- that's exactly what's happening- one instance as root, the
> others as www.
>
> Now I've got an interesting problem I'm trying to track down. I think
> I've finiall got mod_ssl working with ie on the mac. but when I do an
> restart, the terminal tells me apache could not be restarted. But it
> IS running...
> any ideas?
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] applet problem
Posted by Sander Holthaus - Orange XL <in...@orangexl.com>.
OK, well, by the looks of it, it's not an Apache problem (if this is all). I
only see 301's (you might wanna change that) and 304's (which means that the
browser doesn't need to doenload anything since it has a similiar copy in
cache).
But , I cannot be sure. But the last request points to
/drawingtool/drawtoolr.class where the request before that point to
/drawingtool/drawtool.class . There is a difference in in filename's.
With my limited knowledge of Java I cannot help you much further, but it
doesn't look like a Apache problem. The browser already seems to have what
it is requesting from Apache (the 304's). I think the problem could lie in
your HTML-code.
Kind Regards,
Sander Holthaus
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From: "Paul Muad`dib" <uz...@gmx.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] applet problem
> I did already and here you can see it....
> 211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:09:06 +0800] "GET /drawingtool
HTTP/1.1"
> 301 326 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Crazy
> Browser 1.0.5)"
> 211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:09:07 +0800] "GET /drawingtool/
HTTP/1.1"
> 304 0 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Crazy
Browser
> 1.0.5)"
> 211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:09:10 +0800] "GET
> /drawingtool/drawtool.class HTTP/1.1" 304 0 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;
> MSIE 6.0; Win32)"
> 211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:10:11 +0800] "GET
> /drawingtool/drawtoolr.class HTTP/1.1" 304 0 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;
> MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Crazy Browser 1.0.5)"
>
> ( the last is were I requested it directly for d/l and it worked )
>
> So when I saw that I again checked it with appletviewer ( locally ) and it
> worked....
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sander Holthaus - Orange XL" <in...@orangexl.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] applet problem
>
>
> > You should look in your access/error logs to see what is actually
> requested.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Muad`dib" <uz...@gmx.net>
> > To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:32 PM
> > Subject: [users@httpd] applet problem
> >
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I have a strange problem with providing applets on Apache.
> > > I tested the applet already with the appletviewer and it works
> perfectly.
> > >
> > > I have a subdir created like drawingtool so the url to call it would
be
> > > http://mysite.com/drawingtool
> > > In there is a index.html with this code ( snippet ):
> > >
> > > <APPLET CODE=drawtool.class ARCHIVE=drawtool.jar WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600
>
> > >
> > > </APPLET>
> > >
> > > But when I call this site it tells me that the drawtool.class is not
> found
> > > ...
> > > Even without putting all the class files into the jar ( and of course
> > > removing the ARCHIVE part ) it doesn't work...
> > >
> > > Any ideas ?
> > >
> > > Thnx in advance ....
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [users@httpd] applet problem
Posted by Paul Muad`dib <uz...@gmx.net>.
I did already and here you can see it....
211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:09:06 +0800] "GET /drawingtool HTTP/1.1"
301 326 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Crazy
Browser 1.0.5)"
211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:09:07 +0800] "GET /drawingtool/ HTTP/1.1"
304 0 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Crazy Browser
1.0.5)"
211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:09:10 +0800] "GET
/drawingtool/drawtool.class HTTP/1.1" 304 0 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;
MSIE 6.0; Win32)"
211.72.XXX.XXX - - [05/Feb/2003:09:10:11 +0800] "GET
/drawingtool/drawtoolr.class HTTP/1.1" 304 0 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;
MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Crazy Browser 1.0.5)"
( the last is were I requested it directly for d/l and it worked )
So when I saw that I again checked it with appletviewer ( locally ) and it
worked....
Any ideas ?
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sander Holthaus - Orange XL" <in...@orangexl.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] applet problem
> You should look in your access/error logs to see what is actually
requested.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Muad`dib" <uz...@gmx.net>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:32 PM
> Subject: [users@httpd] applet problem
>
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I have a strange problem with providing applets on Apache.
> > I tested the applet already with the appletviewer and it works
perfectly.
> >
> > I have a subdir created like drawingtool so the url to call it would be
> > http://mysite.com/drawingtool
> > In there is a index.html with this code ( snippet ):
> >
> > <APPLET CODE=drawtool.class ARCHIVE=drawtool.jar WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 >
> >
> > </APPLET>
> >
> > But when I call this site it tells me that the drawtool.class is not
found
> > ...
> > Even without putting all the class files into the jar ( and of course
> > removing the ARCHIVE part ) it doesn't work...
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Thnx in advance ....
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [users@httpd] applet problem
Posted by Sander Holthaus - Orange XL <in...@orangexl.com>.
You should look in your access/error logs to see what is actually requested.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Muad`dib" <uz...@gmx.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: [users@httpd] applet problem
> Dear All,
>
> I have a strange problem with providing applets on Apache.
> I tested the applet already with the appletviewer and it works perfectly.
>
> I have a subdir created like drawingtool so the url to call it would be
> http://mysite.com/drawingtool
> In there is a index.html with this code ( snippet ):
>
> <APPLET CODE=drawtool.class ARCHIVE=drawtool.jar WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 >
>
> </APPLET>
>
> But when I call this site it tells me that the drawtool.class is not found
> ...
> Even without putting all the class files into the jar ( and of course
> removing the ARCHIVE part ) it doesn't work...
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thnx in advance ....
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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[users@httpd] applet problem
Posted by Paul Muad`dib <uz...@gmx.net>.
Dear All,
I have a strange problem with providing applets on Apache.
I tested the applet already with the appletviewer and it works perfectly.
I have a subdir created like drawingtool so the url to call it would be
http://mysite.com/drawingtool
In there is a index.html with this code ( snippet ):
<APPLET CODE=drawtool.class ARCHIVE=drawtool.jar WIDTH=800 HEIGHT=600 >
</APPLET>
But when I call this site it tells me that the drawtool.class is not found
...
Even without putting all the class files into the jar ( and of course
removing the ARCHIVE part ) it doesn't work...
Any ideas ?
Thnx in advance ....
Paul
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Re: [users@httpd] redirecting requests for an old.html file to a
new.html file?
Posted by Roland Tarver <ro...@applegate.co.uk>.
That's great. Thanks a lot.
Roland
Nelson Goforth wrote:
> That would seem to be a simple AliasMatch directive in your httpd.conf
> or .htaccess. Check the documentation at:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_alias.html
>
> And if that doesn't work (if it's a more complicated re-routing) look
> under mod_Rewrite in the documentation.
>
> Nelson
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 04:44 AM, Roland Tarver wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Which is the best method of redirecting requests for an old.htm file
>> to the new.htm file in apache 1.3?
>>
>> Thanks and best wishes.
>>
>> Roland Tarver
>>
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Re: [users@httpd] redirecting requests for an old.html file to a new.html file?
Posted by Nelson Goforth <ng...@earthnet.net>.
That would seem to be a simple AliasMatch directive in your httpd.conf
or .htaccess. Check the documentation at:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_alias.html
And if that doesn't work (if it's a more complicated re-routing) look
under mod_Rewrite in the documentation.
Nelson
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 04:44 AM, Roland Tarver wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Which is the best method of redirecting requests for an old.htm file
> to the new.htm file in apache 1.3?
>
> Thanks and best wishes.
>
> Roland Tarver
>
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[users@httpd] redirecting requests for an old.html file to a new.html file?
Posted by Roland Tarver <ro...@applegate.co.uk>.
Hi,
Which is the best method of redirecting requests for an old.htm file to
the new.htm file in apache 1.3?
Thanks and best wishes.
Roland Tarver
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Re: [users@httpd] several instances of httpd running- is this
normal?
Posted by Jim Sheffer <ji...@blueworld.com>.
thanks- that's exactly what's happening- one instance as root, the
others as www.
Now I've got an interesting problem I'm trying to track down. I think
I've finiall got mod_ssl working with ie on the mac. but when I do an
restart, the terminal tells me apache could not be restarted. But it
IS running...
any ideas?
Jim
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:18:15 -0300, Individual . . wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Jim Sheffer wrote:
>
>> I took a look at processes on the machine (MacOSX) and noticed several
>> instances of httpd running simutaniously. this isn't right, is it?
>>
>
> Yes, I believe it is. The parent process runs as root, which spawns
> child processes which run as www:www.
> You can set how many child processes (min / max) to spawn in httpd.conf.
>
> Look at my ps auux | grep httpd:
>
> root 397 0.0 0.1 4956 232 ?? Ss Sat02AM 0:14.98
> /usr/sbin/httpd
> www 399 0.0 0.2 4956 740 ?? S Sat02AM 0:00.88
> /usr/sbin/httpd
> www 806 0.0 0.2 4956 728 ?? S Sat08AM 0:00.96
> /usr/sbin/httpd
> www 807 0.0 0.2 4956 704 ?? S Sat08AM 0:00.81
> /usr/sbin/httpd
> www 854 0.0 0.2 4956 748 ?? S Sat03PM 0:00.41
> /usr/sbin/httpd
> www 1061 0.0 0.2 4956 680 ?? S Sun01AM 0:00.17
> /usr/sbin/httpd
>
> And my httpd.conf file:
>
> #
> # Server-pool size regulation. Rather than making you guess how many
> # server processes you need, Apache dynamically adapts to the load it
> # sees --- that is, it tries to maintain enough server processes to
> # handle the current load, plus a few spare servers to handle transient
> # load spikes (e.g., multiple simultaneous requests from a single
> # Netscape browser).
> #
> # It does this by periodically checking how many servers are waiting
> # for a request. If there are fewer than MinSpareServers, it creates
> # a new spare. If there are more than MaxSpareServers, some of the
> # spares die off. The default values are probably OK for most sites.
> #
> MinSpareServers 1
> MaxSpareServers 5
>
> #
> # Number of servers to start initially --- should be a reasonable ballpark
> # figure.
> #
> StartServers 1
>
> Paul
>
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Re: [users@httpd] several instances of httpd running- is this normal?
Posted by "Individual . ." <in...@mi.cl>.
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Jim Sheffer wrote:
> I took a look at processes on the machine (MacOSX) and noticed several
> instances of httpd running simutaniously. this isn't right, is it?
>
Yes, I believe it is. The parent process runs as root, which spawns
child processes which run as www:www.
You can set how many child processes (min / max) to spawn in httpd.conf.
Look at my ps auux | grep httpd:
root 397 0.0 0.1 4956 232 ?? Ss Sat02AM 0:14.98
/usr/sbin/httpd
www 399 0.0 0.2 4956 740 ?? S Sat02AM 0:00.88
/usr/sbin/httpd
www 806 0.0 0.2 4956 728 ?? S Sat08AM 0:00.96
/usr/sbin/httpd
www 807 0.0 0.2 4956 704 ?? S Sat08AM 0:00.81
/usr/sbin/httpd
www 854 0.0 0.2 4956 748 ?? S Sat03PM 0:00.41
/usr/sbin/httpd
www 1061 0.0 0.2 4956 680 ?? S Sun01AM 0:00.17
/usr/sbin/httpd
And my httpd.conf file:
#
# Server-pool size regulation. Rather than making you guess how many
# server processes you need, Apache dynamically adapts to the load it
# sees --- that is, it tries to maintain enough server processes to
# handle the current load, plus a few spare servers to handle transient
# load spikes (e.g., multiple simultaneous requests from a single
# Netscape browser).
#
# It does this by periodically checking how many servers are waiting
# for a request. If there are fewer than MinSpareServers, it creates
# a new spare. If there are more than MaxSpareServers, some of the
# spares die off. The default values are probably OK for most sites.
#
MinSpareServers 1
MaxSpareServers 5
#
# Number of servers to start initially --- should be a reasonable
ballpark
# figure.
#
StartServers 1
Paul
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