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Posted to general@attic.apache.org by Brahma Reddy Battula <br...@apache.org> on 2022/06/02 16:42:03 UTC
Re: Question about fork an attic project
Hi Herve Boutemy
Would like to know the process for leaving the attic project.
1) Do you've any template for incubation proposal?
2) Once we fork it, we need to send proposal for incubation with same project name OR we can have another name.?
3) We should mandatorily have existing PMC and committers(before Attic) in the proposal.
Please find the following answers to your queries.
- which Attic project you've forked
===>> Ambari
- where did you put the fork
====>> Not yet forked, planned to do that.
On 2022/04/11 08:20:00 吴治国 wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot to mention the project is ambari.
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 2022, at 3:54 PM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Our company is considering to restart the project and help it leave the attic.
> > But I don’t know how to do it, I heard I need 3 incubator PMC to approve this, But I don’t know who is interesting about this, and how can I reach them.
> > Can you help me?
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2022, at 11:32 PM, Herve Boutemy <hb...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Zhiguo Wu,
> >>
> >> Sorry for the late answer.
> >>
> >> If you fork outside Apache Software Foundation, yes, you'll have to rename: code is free, but the name is owned by ASF.
> >>
> >> Incubator is there only for code intended to remain at ASF: if I understand correctly, that's not your intent. That's ok.
> >>
> >> Just tell us:
> >> - which Attic project you've forked
> >> - where did you put the fork
> >> Then we can update project's Attic page to link to the new location
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Hervé
> >>
> >> On 2022/03/13 14:53:45 吴治国 wrote:
> >>> Hi community,
> >>>
> >>> I saw the website says if we create a fork from an attic project, we should told you. And you will create a link to our project?
> >>> What should I do?
> >>> Is there anything I should pay attention to?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Zhiguo Wu.
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 12:31 AM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi community
> >>>>
> >>>> I have some question about fork an attic project before I actually do it.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1、Can we change the project name?
> >>>> 2、Will the project become an Incubator project immediately? Can we choose not to?
> >>>>
> >>>> And what else should we do if we fork an attic project?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Zhiguo Wu.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
Re: Question about fork an attic project
Posted by Brahma Reddy Battula <br...@apache.org>.
Thanks Hervé for sharing the good news..Very happy to hear!!
Will discuss incubation mailing list and let you know..
Looks there is chance to became TLP if ASF members are involved on this, will update same
On 2022/06/09 11:52:26 Herve Boutemy wrote:
> working with Incubator on forming a new PMC to revive Ambari looks the best approach: once Incubator will have rebuilt a formal PMC, Attic will work with you to give back ownership and remove from Attic...
>
> It's unusual for Attic to help a project revival, that's really good news
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> On 2022/06/03 06:38:15 Brahma Reddy Battula wrote:
> >
> > thanks Hervé for prompt reply.
> >
> > Yes, Summary should be fine. Even we identified the champion and mentors.
> >
> > We are in process of finalizing the proposal. Please let's know anything which we need to consider. We can try to change name if it's mandatory.
> >
> >
> > On 2022/06/03 06:09:32 Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
> > > Hi Brama,
> > >
> > > Can you confirm I understood your idea:
> > >
> > > ideally, you'd like to revive Ambari at ASF, keeping Ambari name and
> > > everything else: you'd be forming a new PMC to revive the community around it
> > > (users, contributors, maintainers).
> > > If keeping the name is not ok, your plan would be to fork and rename at ASF.
> > >
> > > You already have a few people interested to join (yourself, Zhiguo Wu who
> > > started the thread in march, and probably others).
> > >
> > > Then you're prepared to submit a proposal to Incubator either to revive or
> > > fork Ambari.
> > >
> > > Is this summary ok?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > Le jeudi 2 juin 2022, 18:42:03 CEST Brahma Reddy Battula a écrit :
> > > > Hi Herve Boutemy
> > > >
> > > > Would like to know the process for leaving the attic project.
> > > >
> > > > 1) Do you've any template for incubation proposal?
> > > > 2) Once we fork it, we need to send proposal for incubation with same
> > > > project name OR we can have another name.? 3) We should mandatorily have
> > > > existing PMC and committers(before Attic) in the proposal.
> > > >
> > > > Please find the following answers to your queries.
> > > >
> > > > - which Attic project you've forked
> > > > ===>> Ambari
> > > > - where did you put the fork
> > > > ====>> Not yet forked, planned to do that.
> > > >
> > > > On 2022/04/11 08:20:00 吴治国 wrote:
> > > > > Sorry, I forgot to mention the project is ambari.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 11, 2022, at 3:54 PM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our company is considering to restart the project and help it leave the
> > > > > > attic. But I don’t know how to do it, I heard I need 3 incubator PMC to
> > > > > > approve this, But I don’t know who is interesting about this, and how
> > > > > > can I reach them. Can you help me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Apr 3, 2022, at 11:32 PM, Herve Boutemy <hb...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Zhiguo Wu,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sorry for the late answer.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If you fork outside Apache Software Foundation, yes, you'll have to
> > > > > >> rename: code is free, but the name is owned by ASF.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Incubator is there only for code intended to remain at ASF: if I
> > > > > >> understand correctly, that's not your intent. That's ok.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just tell us:
> > > > > >> - which Attic project you've forked
> > > > > >> - where did you put the fork
> > > > > >> Then we can update project's Attic page to link to the new location
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hervé
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 2022/03/13 14:53:45 吴治国 wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hi community,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I saw the website says if we create a fork from an attic project, we
> > > > > >>> should told you. And you will create a link to our project? What
> > > > > >>> should I do?
> > > > > >>> Is there anything I should pay attention to?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks.
> > > > > >>> Zhiguo Wu.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 12:31 AM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi community
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I have some question about fork an attic project before I actually do
> > > > > >>>> it.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> 1、Can we change the project name?
> > > > > >>>> 2、Will the project become an Incubator project immediately? Can we
> > > > > >>>> choose not to?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> And what else should we do if we fork an attic project?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks.
> > > > > >>>> Zhiguo Wu.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Question about fork an attic project
Posted by Herve Boutemy <hb...@apache.org>.
working with Incubator on forming a new PMC to revive Ambari looks the best approach: once Incubator will have rebuilt a formal PMC, Attic will work with you to give back ownership and remove from Attic...
It's unusual for Attic to help a project revival, that's really good news
Regards,
Hervé
On 2022/06/03 06:38:15 Brahma Reddy Battula wrote:
>
> thanks Hervé for prompt reply.
>
> Yes, Summary should be fine. Even we identified the champion and mentors.
>
> We are in process of finalizing the proposal. Please let's know anything which we need to consider. We can try to change name if it's mandatory.
>
>
> On 2022/06/03 06:09:32 Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
> > Hi Brama,
> >
> > Can you confirm I understood your idea:
> >
> > ideally, you'd like to revive Ambari at ASF, keeping Ambari name and
> > everything else: you'd be forming a new PMC to revive the community around it
> > (users, contributors, maintainers).
> > If keeping the name is not ok, your plan would be to fork and rename at ASF.
> >
> > You already have a few people interested to join (yourself, Zhiguo Wu who
> > started the thread in march, and probably others).
> >
> > Then you're prepared to submit a proposal to Incubator either to revive or
> > fork Ambari.
> >
> > Is this summary ok?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le jeudi 2 juin 2022, 18:42:03 CEST Brahma Reddy Battula a écrit :
> > > Hi Herve Boutemy
> > >
> > > Would like to know the process for leaving the attic project.
> > >
> > > 1) Do you've any template for incubation proposal?
> > > 2) Once we fork it, we need to send proposal for incubation with same
> > > project name OR we can have another name.? 3) We should mandatorily have
> > > existing PMC and committers(before Attic) in the proposal.
> > >
> > > Please find the following answers to your queries.
> > >
> > > - which Attic project you've forked
> > > ===>> Ambari
> > > - where did you put the fork
> > > ====>> Not yet forked, planned to do that.
> > >
> > > On 2022/04/11 08:20:00 吴治国 wrote:
> > > > Sorry, I forgot to mention the project is ambari.
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 11, 2022, at 3:54 PM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our company is considering to restart the project and help it leave the
> > > > > attic. But I don’t know how to do it, I heard I need 3 incubator PMC to
> > > > > approve this, But I don’t know who is interesting about this, and how
> > > > > can I reach them. Can you help me?
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Apr 3, 2022, at 11:32 PM, Herve Boutemy <hb...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Zhiguo Wu,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sorry for the late answer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you fork outside Apache Software Foundation, yes, you'll have to
> > > > >> rename: code is free, but the name is owned by ASF.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Incubator is there only for code intended to remain at ASF: if I
> > > > >> understand correctly, that's not your intent. That's ok.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Just tell us:
> > > > >> - which Attic project you've forked
> > > > >> - where did you put the fork
> > > > >> Then we can update project's Attic page to link to the new location
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hervé
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 2022/03/13 14:53:45 吴治国 wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi community,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I saw the website says if we create a fork from an attic project, we
> > > > >>> should told you. And you will create a link to our project? What
> > > > >>> should I do?
> > > > >>> Is there anything I should pay attention to?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks.
> > > > >>> Zhiguo Wu.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 12:31 AM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Hi community
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I have some question about fork an attic project before I actually do
> > > > >>>> it.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 1、Can we change the project name?
> > > > >>>> 2、Will the project become an Incubator project immediately? Can we
> > > > >>>> choose not to?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> And what else should we do if we fork an attic project?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks.
> > > > >>>> Zhiguo Wu.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Question about fork an attic project
Posted by Brahma Reddy Battula <br...@apache.org>.
thanks Hervé for prompt reply.
Yes, Summary should be fine. Even we identified the champion and mentors.
We are in process of finalizing the proposal. Please let's know anything which we need to consider. We can try to change name if it's mandatory.
On 2022/06/03 06:09:32 Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
> Hi Brama,
>
> Can you confirm I understood your idea:
>
> ideally, you'd like to revive Ambari at ASF, keeping Ambari name and
> everything else: you'd be forming a new PMC to revive the community around it
> (users, contributors, maintainers).
> If keeping the name is not ok, your plan would be to fork and rename at ASF.
>
> You already have a few people interested to join (yourself, Zhiguo Wu who
> started the thread in march, and probably others).
>
> Then you're prepared to submit a proposal to Incubator either to revive or
> fork Ambari.
>
> Is this summary ok?
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le jeudi 2 juin 2022, 18:42:03 CEST Brahma Reddy Battula a écrit :
> > Hi Herve Boutemy
> >
> > Would like to know the process for leaving the attic project.
> >
> > 1) Do you've any template for incubation proposal?
> > 2) Once we fork it, we need to send proposal for incubation with same
> > project name OR we can have another name.? 3) We should mandatorily have
> > existing PMC and committers(before Attic) in the proposal.
> >
> > Please find the following answers to your queries.
> >
> > - which Attic project you've forked
> > ===>> Ambari
> > - where did you put the fork
> > ====>> Not yet forked, planned to do that.
> >
> > On 2022/04/11 08:20:00 吴治国 wrote:
> > > Sorry, I forgot to mention the project is ambari.
> > >
> > > > On Apr 11, 2022, at 3:54 PM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Our company is considering to restart the project and help it leave the
> > > > attic. But I don’t know how to do it, I heard I need 3 incubator PMC to
> > > > approve this, But I don’t know who is interesting about this, and how
> > > > can I reach them. Can you help me?
> > > >
> > > >> On Apr 3, 2022, at 11:32 PM, Herve Boutemy <hb...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Zhiguo Wu,
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry for the late answer.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you fork outside Apache Software Foundation, yes, you'll have to
> > > >> rename: code is free, but the name is owned by ASF.
> > > >>
> > > >> Incubator is there only for code intended to remain at ASF: if I
> > > >> understand correctly, that's not your intent. That's ok.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just tell us:
> > > >> - which Attic project you've forked
> > > >> - where did you put the fork
> > > >> Then we can update project's Attic page to link to the new location
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Hervé
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2022/03/13 14:53:45 吴治国 wrote:
> > > >>> Hi community,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I saw the website says if we create a fork from an attic project, we
> > > >>> should told you. And you will create a link to our project? What
> > > >>> should I do?
> > > >>> Is there anything I should pay attention to?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks.
> > > >>> Zhiguo Wu.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 12:31 AM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi community
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have some question about fork an attic project before I actually do
> > > >>>> it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 1、Can we change the project name?
> > > >>>> 2、Will the project become an Incubator project immediately? Can we
> > > >>>> choose not to?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And what else should we do if we fork an attic project?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks.
> > > >>>> Zhiguo Wu.
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Question about fork an attic project
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
Hi Brama,
Can you confirm I understood your idea:
ideally, you'd like to revive Ambari at ASF, keeping Ambari name and
everything else: you'd be forming a new PMC to revive the community around it
(users, contributors, maintainers).
If keeping the name is not ok, your plan would be to fork and rename at ASF.
You already have a few people interested to join (yourself, Zhiguo Wu who
started the thread in march, and probably others).
Then you're prepared to submit a proposal to Incubator either to revive or
fork Ambari.
Is this summary ok?
Regards,
Hervé
Le jeudi 2 juin 2022, 18:42:03 CEST Brahma Reddy Battula a écrit :
> Hi Herve Boutemy
>
> Would like to know the process for leaving the attic project.
>
> 1) Do you've any template for incubation proposal?
> 2) Once we fork it, we need to send proposal for incubation with same
> project name OR we can have another name.? 3) We should mandatorily have
> existing PMC and committers(before Attic) in the proposal.
>
> Please find the following answers to your queries.
>
> - which Attic project you've forked
> ===>> Ambari
> - where did you put the fork
> ====>> Not yet forked, planned to do that.
>
> On 2022/04/11 08:20:00 吴治国 wrote:
> > Sorry, I forgot to mention the project is ambari.
> >
> > > On Apr 11, 2022, at 3:54 PM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Our company is considering to restart the project and help it leave the
> > > attic. But I don’t know how to do it, I heard I need 3 incubator PMC to
> > > approve this, But I don’t know who is interesting about this, and how
> > > can I reach them. Can you help me?
> > >
> > >> On Apr 3, 2022, at 11:32 PM, Herve Boutemy <hb...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Zhiguo Wu,
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the late answer.
> > >>
> > >> If you fork outside Apache Software Foundation, yes, you'll have to
> > >> rename: code is free, but the name is owned by ASF.
> > >>
> > >> Incubator is there only for code intended to remain at ASF: if I
> > >> understand correctly, that's not your intent. That's ok.
> > >>
> > >> Just tell us:
> > >> - which Attic project you've forked
> > >> - where did you put the fork
> > >> Then we can update project's Attic page to link to the new location
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Hervé
> > >>
> > >> On 2022/03/13 14:53:45 吴治国 wrote:
> > >>> Hi community,
> > >>>
> > >>> I saw the website says if we create a fork from an attic project, we
> > >>> should told you. And you will create a link to our project? What
> > >>> should I do?
> > >>> Is there anything I should pay attention to?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>> Zhiguo Wu.
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 12:31 AM, 吴治国 <wz...@163.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi community
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have some question about fork an attic project before I actually do
> > >>>> it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1、Can we change the project name?
> > >>>> 2、Will the project become an Incubator project immediately? Can we
> > >>>> choose not to?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And what else should we do if we fork an attic project?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks.
> > >>>> Zhiguo Wu.