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Posted to dev@shiro.apache.org by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org> on 2009/01/01 16:53:08 UTC
[VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Dear JSecurity Team,
There has been lengthy debate without consensus as to whether or JSecurity's
name should be changed to something else. So, there is need for a vote.
Please vote on changing JSecurity's name to something else. This is ONLY a
vote of if we should change the name, NOT what any alternate name might be.
I'd like to leave this vote open for 7 days instead of the usual 3 to
account for time that people may not be able to respond due to the
holidays. Of course we can close the vote early if all binding votes are
accounted for prior to the 7 day limit.
The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
development team are binding.
[ ] +1 Change JSecurity's name
[ ] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Joshua Partogi <jo...@gmail.com>.
[ X ] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
What's more important is the quality of the product itselt, not the
name. JSecurity has been well known in the community.
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear JSecurity Team,
>
> There has been lengthy debate without consensus as to whether or JSecurity's
> name should be changed to something else. So, there is need for a vote.
>
> Please vote on changing JSecurity's name to something else. This is ONLY a
> vote of if we should change the name, NOT what any alternate name might be.
> I'd like to leave this vote open for 7 days instead of the usual 3 to
> account for time that people may not be able to respond due to the
> holidays. Of course we can close the vote early if all binding votes are
> accounted for prior to the 7 day limit.
>
> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
> development team are binding.
>
> [ ] +1 Change JSecurity's name
> [ ] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
>
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Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
> [X] +1 Change JSecurity's name (binding)
In any case, due to the name collision, I don't want to take any risk.
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Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>.
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org> wrote:
> [X] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
I don't think the reasons for change are strong enough to be worth the fuzz.
/niklas
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Jeremy Haile <jh...@fastmail.fm>.
[ ] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
Not sure if my vote counts, but at this point I wouldn't want to change
it.
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:53:08 -0500, "Les Hazlewood"
<lh...@apache.org> said:
> Dear JSecurity Team,
>
> There has been lengthy debate without consensus as to whether or
> JSecurity's
> name should be changed to something else. So, there is need for a vote.
>
> Please vote on changing JSecurity's name to something else. This is ONLY
> a
> vote of if we should change the name, NOT what any alternate name might
> be.
> I'd like to leave this vote open for 7 days instead of the usual 3 to
> account for time that people may not be able to respond due to the
> holidays. Of course we can close the vote early if all binding votes are
> accounted for prior to the 7 day limit.
>
> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
> development team are binding.
>
> [ ] +1 Change JSecurity's name
> [ ] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@gmail.com>.
[X] +1 Change JSecurity's name
Perhaps we can keep side conversations off the vote thread.
Thanks,
Alex
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
+1 - binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> Dear JSecurity Team,
>
> There has been lengthy debate without consensus as to whether or
> JSecurity's
> name should be changed to something else. So, there is need for a
> vote.
>
> Please vote on changing JSecurity's name to something else. This is
> ONLY a
> vote of if we should change the name, NOT what any alternate name
> might be.
> I'd like to leave this vote open for 7 days instead of the usual 3 to
> account for time that people may not be able to respond due to the
> holidays. Of course we can close the vote early if all binding
> votes are
> accounted for prior to the 7 day limit.
>
> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
> development team are binding.
>
> [ ] +1 Change JSecurity's name
> [ ] -1 Do not change JSecurity's name
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
Never mind Alan - you _did_ answer this already. Sorry.
Thanks for the clarification!
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>wrote:
> So, just to be absolutely clear, the 5 founding developers don't have any
> say in the current vote, right?. That's fine if that is the case (it is
> ASF's organization after all, and we're not members yet), I'd just like to
> know for sure.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Les
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>wrote:
>
>> Not until we're out of incubation.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>> Ok. But now I'm confused ;) Does this mean the 5 founding developers on
>>> this project don't have a binding vote in this matter?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
>>>>
>>>>> development team are binding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> A point of order. Only Incubator PMC member votes are binding, e.g. the
>>>> mentors of this project. There has to be a minimum of three votes from
>>>> Incubator PMC members to make the poll binding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
So, just to be absolutely clear, the 5 founding developers don't have any
say in the current vote, right?. That's fine if that is the case (it is
ASF's organization after all, and we're not members yet), I'd just like to
know for sure.
Thanks!
Les
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>wrote:
> Not until we're out of incubation.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
> Ok. But now I'm confused ;) Does this mean the 5 founding developers on
>> this project don't have a binding vote in this matter?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>
>>> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
>>>
>>>> development team are binding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A point of order. Only Incubator PMC member votes are binding, e.g. the
>>> mentors of this project. There has to be a minimum of three votes from
>>> Incubator PMC members to make the poll binding.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
Not until we're out of incubation.
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> Ok. But now I'm confused ;) Does this mean the 5 founding
> developers on
> this project don't have a binding vote in this matter?
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Alan D. Cabrera
> <li...@toolazydogs.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the
>> JSecurity
>>> development team are binding.
>>>
>>
>> A point of order. Only Incubator PMC member votes are binding,
>> e.g. the
>> mentors of this project. There has to be a minimum of three votes
>> from
>> Incubator PMC members to make the poll binding.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
Let me clarify - my assumption is that a binding vote is a vote that is
officially counted that decides whether a vote passes or not.
My intent was to ensure that the following occured: the 5 founding
developers + our 3 Incubator Mentors votes would be counted. Any other
votes, although interesting for us to see others' opinion, would be thrown
out. The tally of those 8 votes would be counted, and whatever the majority
of those 8 votes - that would be what makes the decision.
Is this not a correct assumption? According to this (
http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html), my assumption may be
incorrect. I'm just trying to get clarification on my possible ignorance of
how a vote would work...
Thanks,
Les
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>wrote:
> Ok. But now I'm confused ;) Does this mean the 5 founding developers on
> this project don't have a binding vote in this matter?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
>>> development team are binding.
>>>
>>
>> A point of order. Only Incubator PMC member votes are binding, e.g. the
>> mentors of this project. There has to be a minimum of three votes from
>> Incubator PMC members to make the poll binding.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
Ok. But now I'm confused ;) Does this mean the 5 founding developers on
this project don't have a binding vote in this matter?
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>wrote:
>
> On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
>> development team are binding.
>>
>
> A point of order. Only Incubator PMC member votes are binding, e.g. the
> mentors of this project. There has to be a minimum of three votes from
> Incubator PMC members to make the poll binding.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Change JSecurity's Name
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> The vote is open for the next 7 days and only votes from the JSecurity
> development team are binding.
A point of order. Only Incubator PMC member votes are binding, e.g.
the mentors of this project. There has to be a minimum of three votes
from Incubator PMC members to make the poll binding.
Regards,
Alan