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Posted to dev@flink.apache.org by Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> on 2015/05/11 09:51:45 UTC
New project website
Hey all,
I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to share the preview:
http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current status quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
– Ufuk
Re: New project website
Posted by Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>.
+1 This version looks much clearer and more professional.
Some comments:
- I would increase the font difference between headings and subheadings.
E.g. at http://uce.github.io/flink-web/features.html
- Quickstart is missing
On 11.05.2015 09:59, Chiwan Park wrote:
> Great! :)
> +1 for this version.
>
> Regards.
> Chiwan Park (Sent with iPhone)
>
>
>
>> On May 11, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to share the preview:
>>
>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>>
>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current status quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
>>
>> – Ufuk
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Aljoscha Krettek <al...@apache.org>.
+1
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Chiwan Park <ch...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Great! :)
> +1 for this version.
>
> Regards.
> Chiwan Park (Sent with iPhone)
>
>
>
>> On May 11, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to share the preview:
>>
>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>>
>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current status quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
>>
>> – Ufuk
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Chiwan Park <ch...@icloud.com>.
Great! :)
+1 for this version.
Regards.
Chiwan Park (Sent with iPhone)
> On May 11, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to share the preview:
>
> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>
> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current status quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
>
> – Ufuk
Re: New project website
Posted by Fabian Hueske <fh...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I like the new website a lot. Great Job Ufuk!
Here are some things that I notices while checking it out:
General:
- I find the text area a bit too wide for comfortable reading, especially
for long texts such as blog posts or the how to contribute guide.
Front page:
- Stack Figure: Don't stack libraries. It suggests that they depend on each
other. Can we put them vertical like on our slides?
- Links in latest blog posts not working
- The frontpage / first sentence does not make clear that Flink is also for
Batch (<- Same point Robert raised)
- I am always suspicious if someone says "real-time"
- Getting started does not link to the Quickstarts / Maven archetypes &
only shows Maven dependencies for Java API
Feature page:
- Data is not always "streamed all the way" in batch programs. There are
also dams.
- "You can use native Java and Scala data types without packing them into
key-value pairs, logical field addressing, and a wealth of operators." ->
Sentence can be misunderstood ("without packaging [...], logical field
addressing, and a wealth of operators")
- The usual question: Java or Scala code snippets
FAQ:
- I agree that some of the FAQs are outdated, but I guess more than two are
still relevant. We might think about adding more common questions that we
see on SO or the mailing lists.
Blog:
- Links in the right-side menu of the main blog pages are broken
Blog posts:
- Pictures in some blog posts are too large, IMO (Streaming, Hadoop, Join
post)
2015-05-11 10:20 GMT+02:00 Robert Metzger <rm...@apache.org>:
> Amazing work!
> The new site looks really good.
> I like white websites more, they are easier to read.
> Also, its great that you're putting the community on the front page. I hear
> quite often that users like the good support they are getting from the
> mailing lists. I personally experienced other open source communities which
> didn't answer my questions on their list. I think that's not happening in
> our community!
> The blog posts with their dates on the front page show that the project is
> very active.
>
> Some detailed comments:
> - The front page doesn't contain the word "batch" at all. People might be
> confused
> - why is the "Table API" so prominent on the front page? Other staging
> projects like python or the hadoop compat don't get a mention at all.
> - Do you think adding a very little "Beta" badge on the system stack at the
> front page to the beta components would be a good idea? I think we should
> manage the expectations there. ML, gelly and the table API are all not part
> of any official stable release.
> - The disqus comments are missing in the blog
> - The frontpage link to the setup is broken:
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/setup/
> - The codetabs.js file contains (and actually logs) "HERE" to the
> javascript console of my browser. Looks like some leftover debugging code.
> - codetabs.js also gets a "Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined" on
> the downloads page.
> - I don't want to put the burden of fixing this onto alone (= I can help
> you), but basically all links to the documentation in the blog are broken.
> For example for the 0.9.0-m1 annoucements, the links to gelly and the table
> api are broken. This issue is independent of this change, but still
> annoying.
> - The link to our twitter account could be more prominent. Maybe on the
> front page?
>
> .. I'll give feedback to the Feature page, once its done ;)
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to
> > share the preview:
> >
> > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> >
> > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any
> > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current
> status
> > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
> >
> > – Ufuk
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
+1 for white websites indeed :-)
Some comments from my side:
- The logo in the menu is quite disproportional in Chrome and looks
quite bad. I can send you a screenshot if you can't check. It looks good in
Safari.
- The stack image is a bit blurry and also quite confusing. It might
look like Gelly is built on top of Table API and ML on top of Gelly. Also,
I get why Table is both on top of DataSet and DataStream, but I would add
each component once and have a note "batch & streaming" instead of copying.
First time I saw this on some slides, I thought it was a mistake :/
- +1 for Community in the front page, but why not also keep the link in
the menu?
Cheers,
Vasia.
On 11 May 2015 at 10:20, Robert Metzger <rm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Amazing work!
> The new site looks really good.
> I like white websites more, they are easier to read.
> Also, its great that you're putting the community on the front page. I hear
> quite often that users like the good support they are getting from the
> mailing lists. I personally experienced other open source communities which
> didn't answer my questions on their list. I think that's not happening in
> our community!
> The blog posts with their dates on the front page show that the project is
> very active.
>
> Some detailed comments:
> - The front page doesn't contain the word "batch" at all. People might be
> confused
> - why is the "Table API" so prominent on the front page? Other staging
> projects like python or the hadoop compat don't get a mention at all.
> - Do you think adding a very little "Beta" badge on the system stack at the
> front page to the beta components would be a good idea? I think we should
> manage the expectations there. ML, gelly and the table API are all not part
> of any official stable release.
> - The disqus comments are missing in the blog
> - The frontpage link to the setup is broken:
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/setup/
> - The codetabs.js file contains (and actually logs) "HERE" to the
> javascript console of my browser. Looks like some leftover debugging code.
> - codetabs.js also gets a "Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined" on
> the downloads page.
> - I don't want to put the burden of fixing this onto alone (= I can help
> you), but basically all links to the documentation in the blog are broken.
> For example for the 0.9.0-m1 annoucements, the links to gelly and the table
> api are broken. This issue is independent of this change, but still
> annoying.
> - The link to our twitter account could be more prominent. Maybe on the
> front page?
>
> .. I'll give feedback to the Feature page, once its done ;)
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to
> > share the preview:
> >
> > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> >
> > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any
> > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current
> status
> > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
> >
> > – Ufuk
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Robert Metzger <rm...@apache.org>.
Amazing work!
The new site looks really good.
I like white websites more, they are easier to read.
Also, its great that you're putting the community on the front page. I hear
quite often that users like the good support they are getting from the
mailing lists. I personally experienced other open source communities which
didn't answer my questions on their list. I think that's not happening in
our community!
The blog posts with their dates on the front page show that the project is
very active.
Some detailed comments:
- The front page doesn't contain the word "batch" at all. People might be
confused
- why is the "Table API" so prominent on the front page? Other staging
projects like python or the hadoop compat don't get a mention at all.
- Do you think adding a very little "Beta" badge on the system stack at the
front page to the beta components would be a good idea? I think we should
manage the expectations there. ML, gelly and the table API are all not part
of any official stable release.
- The disqus comments are missing in the blog
- The frontpage link to the setup is broken:
http://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/setup/
- The codetabs.js file contains (and actually logs) "HERE" to the
javascript console of my browser. Looks like some leftover debugging code.
- codetabs.js also gets a "Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined" on
the downloads page.
- I don't want to put the burden of fixing this onto alone (= I can help
you), but basically all links to the documentation in the blog are broken.
For example for the 0.9.0-m1 annoucements, the links to gelly and the table
api are broken. This issue is independent of this change, but still
annoying.
- The link to our twitter account could be more prominent. Maybe on the
front page?
.. I'll give feedback to the Feature page, once its done ;)
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to
> share the preview:
>
> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>
> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any
> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current status
> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
>
> – Ufuk
Re: New project website
Posted by Alexander Alexandrov <al...@gmail.com>.
PS. Is there a particular reason why the APIs are stacked above each other
in the picture (ML on top of Gelly on top of the Table API)? I was actually
picturing the three next to each other...
2015-05-12 12:08 GMT+02:00 Alexander Alexandrov <
alexander.s.alexandrov@gmail.com>:
> I suggest to change the layout of the bottom half in the following way
> (will solve the alignment issue):
>
> - 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for *Getting Started*, 1st column with the
> text and the download button, second column with the maven code snippets
> - 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for the *Recent Blog Posts *and *Community*
> below the *Getting Started* row. The first column should contain the
> latest blog posts, the second the community content
>
> In addition, I think the top row text to be slightly revised. Flink offers
> a unified runtime and APIs for both batch + streaming, but at the moment
> the tagline suggests it is streaming only.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
>
> 2015-05-12 10:55 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>:
>
>> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>>
>> - Having a more prominent tag line
>> - Add some pictures for features back
>> - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>>
>> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
>> in the starting page.
>>
>> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
>> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
>> >
>> > Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One
>> thing
>> > we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
>> > points would you like to see in the frontpage?
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
>> > volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > > -1
>> > >
>> > > Dear all,
>> > >
>> > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>> > >
>> > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
>> > > documentation than a front page.
>> > >
>> > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find
>> what
>> > > it is about quickly in a concise way?
>> > > I believe that the landing page should give information about
>> features
>> > in
>> > > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
>> > > before going into details.
>> > >
>> > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than
>> the
>> > > new design. To me the new design looks like
>> > > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not
>> like
>> > > the starting page of the project.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Volker
>> > >
>> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag
>> von
>> > > Stephan Ewen
>> > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
>> > > An: dev@flink.apache.org
>> > > Betreff: Re: New project website
>> > >
>> > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy
>> hipster"
>> > > website.
>> > >
>> > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to
>> pack
>> > > too much content into a small space.
>> > > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it
>> may
>> > > help to space things out a bit...
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
>> > > > information targeted to the user group.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
>> > > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
>> > > >> documentation.
>> > > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running
>> it
>> > > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>> > > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
>> > > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
>> > > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the
>> blog/community
>> > > section.
>> > > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
>> > > >> <ne...@googlemail.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hi Ufuk,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
>> > > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
>> > > >>> than a starting page.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
>> > > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
>> > > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
>> > > or/and wiki).
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure
>> that
>> > > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>> > > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
>> > > >>> starting pages.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Best regards,
>> > > >>> Felix
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Great!
>> > > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
>> > > >>>> Queries", I
>> > > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
>> > > >>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
>> > > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
>> > > >>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> merge
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> issues
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> and
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
>> > > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
>> > > >>>>>> framing
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> that
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> the home page.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> Hey all,
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
>> > > >>>>>>>> would
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> like
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> share the preview:
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
>> > > >>>>>>>> updates
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> at
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> any
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> current
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> status
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> today.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> – Ufuk
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Alexander Alexandrov <al...@gmail.com>.
I suggest to change the layout of the bottom half in the following way
(will solve the alignment issue):
- 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for *Getting Started*, 1st column with the
text and the download button, second column with the maven code snippets
- 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for the *Recent Blog Posts *and *Community*
below the *Getting Started* row. The first column should contain the latest
blog posts, the second the community content
In addition, I think the top row text to be slightly revised. Flink offers
a unified runtime and APIs for both batch + streaming, but at the moment
the tagline suggests it is streaming only.
Regards,
Alexander
2015-05-12 10:55 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>:
> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>
> - Having a more prominent tag line
> - Add some pictures for features back
> - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>
> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
> in the starting page.
>
> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
> >
> > Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One
> thing
> > we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
> > points would you like to see in the frontpage?
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
> > volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
> > >
> > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
> > > documentation than a front page.
> > >
> > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find
> what
> > > it is about quickly in a concise way?
> > > I believe that the landing page should give information about features
> > in
> > > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
> > > before going into details.
> > >
> > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
> > > new design. To me the new design looks like
> > > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not
> like
> > > the starting page of the project.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Volker
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag
> von
> > > Stephan Ewen
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
> > > An: dev@flink.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: New project website
> > >
> > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy
> hipster"
> > > website.
> > >
> > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to
> pack
> > > too much content into a small space.
> > > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it
> may
> > > help to space things out a bit...
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> > > > information targeted to the user group.
> > > >
> > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> > > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
> > > >> documentation.
> > > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running
> it
> > > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> > > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
> > > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
> > > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the
> blog/community
> > > section.
> > > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
> > > >> <ne...@googlemail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Ufuk,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
> > > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
> > > >>> than a starting page.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
> > > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
> > > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
> > > or/and wiki).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
> > > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> > > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
> > > >>> starting pages.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best regards,
> > > >>> Felix
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Great!
> > > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
> > > >>>> Queries", I
> > > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
> > > >>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> merge
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> issues
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
> > > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
> > > >>>>>> framing
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> that
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> on
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the home page.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hey all,
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
> > > >>>>>>>> would
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> like
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> share the preview:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
> > > >>>>>>>> updates
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> at
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> any
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> current
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> status
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> today.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> – Ufuk
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Robert Metzger <rm...@apache.org>.
+1 ship it
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Vasiliki Kalavri <
> vasilikikalavri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 :))
> >
> > On 15 May 2015 at 12:42, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 14 May 2015, at 12:39, Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Ufuk,
> > > >
> > > > the logo still looks too big for the menu and so does the stack image
> > > now :S
> > > > See attached image.. This is Chrome again. Not sure how you could fix
> > it
> > > though.
> > >
> > > Just had a small debug session with Vasia. The problem is fixed (some
> > > resources were not loaded, because they weren't requested via HTTPS).
> > >
> > > Can we go ahead and update the live version? We will certainly need to
> > > follow up with the "not addressed" points from my previous mail (I'll
> > open
> > > JIRAs for them after we have merged).
> > >
> > > – Ufuk
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>.
The website is now online.
For all future feedback, either file a JIRA or start a new thread on the ML.
On 15 May 2015, at 14:34, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 great work
>
> I don't like that the website design is now pretty much like the
> documentation design. This is confusing if you're on the documentation page
> because the navigation and URL completely changes. We should add a clearly
> visible button to lead back to the website.
I agree. We can also try a different color scheme for the project page header (both are currently the bootstrap defaults).
Re: New project website
Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
+1 great work
I don't like that the website design is now pretty much like the
documentation design. This is confusing if you're on the documentation page
because the navigation and URL completely changes. We should add a clearly
visible button to lead back to the website.
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Fabian Hueske <fh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> one minor thing (could also be fixed later): The head line says only
> "batch" and "stream" processing. It might be good to add "data" and
> "scalable" or "large-scale".
>
> 2015-05-15 13:56 GMT+02:00 Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Vasiliki Kalavri <
> > vasilikikalavri@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 :))
> > >
> > > On 15 May 2015 at 12:42, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 14 May 2015, at 12:39, Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Ufuk,
> > > > >
> > > > > the logo still looks too big for the menu and so does the stack
> image
> > > > now :S
> > > > > See attached image.. This is Chrome again. Not sure how you could
> fix
> > > it
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > > Just had a small debug session with Vasia. The problem is fixed (some
> > > > resources were not loaded, because they weren't requested via HTTPS).
> > > >
> > > > Can we go ahead and update the live version? We will certainly need
> to
> > > > follow up with the "not addressed" points from my previous mail (I'll
> > > open
> > > > JIRAs for them after we have merged).
> > > >
> > > > – Ufuk
> > >
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Fabian Hueske <fh...@gmail.com>.
+1
one minor thing (could also be fixed later): The head line says only
"batch" and "stream" processing. It might be good to add "data" and
"scalable" or "large-scale".
2015-05-15 13:56 GMT+02:00 Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>:
> +1
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Vasiliki Kalavri <
> vasilikikalavri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 :))
> >
> > On 15 May 2015 at 12:42, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 14 May 2015, at 12:39, Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey Ufuk,
> > > >
> > > > the logo still looks too big for the menu and so does the stack image
> > > now :S
> > > > See attached image.. This is Chrome again. Not sure how you could fix
> > it
> > > though.
> > >
> > > Just had a small debug session with Vasia. The problem is fixed (some
> > > resources were not loaded, because they weren't requested via HTTPS).
> > >
> > > Can we go ahead and update the live version? We will certainly need to
> > > follow up with the "not addressed" points from my previous mail (I'll
> > open
> > > JIRAs for them after we have merged).
> > >
> > > – Ufuk
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>.
+1
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Vasiliki Kalavri <
vasilikikalavri@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 :))
>
> On 15 May 2015 at 12:42, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 14 May 2015, at 12:39, Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Ufuk,
> > >
> > > the logo still looks too big for the menu and so does the stack image
> > now :S
> > > See attached image.. This is Chrome again. Not sure how you could fix
> it
> > though.
> >
> > Just had a small debug session with Vasia. The problem is fixed (some
> > resources were not loaded, because they weren't requested via HTTPS).
> >
> > Can we go ahead and update the live version? We will certainly need to
> > follow up with the "not addressed" points from my previous mail (I'll
> open
> > JIRAs for them after we have merged).
> >
> > – Ufuk
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@gmail.com>.
+1 :))
On 15 May 2015 at 12:42, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 14 May 2015, at 12:39, Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey Ufuk,
> >
> > the logo still looks too big for the menu and so does the stack image
> now :S
> > See attached image.. This is Chrome again. Not sure how you could fix it
> though.
>
> Just had a small debug session with Vasia. The problem is fixed (some
> resources were not loaded, because they weren't requested via HTTPS).
>
> Can we go ahead and update the live version? We will certainly need to
> follow up with the "not addressed" points from my previous mail (I'll open
> JIRAs for them after we have merged).
>
> – Ufuk
Re: New project website
Posted by Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>.
On 14 May 2015, at 12:39, Vasiliki Kalavri <va...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey Ufuk,
>
> the logo still looks too big for the menu and so does the stack image now :S
> See attached image.. This is Chrome again. Not sure how you could fix it though.
Just had a small debug session with Vasia. The problem is fixed (some resources were not loaded, because they weren't requested via HTTPS).
Can we go ahead and update the live version? We will certainly need to follow up with the "not addressed" points from my previous mail (I'll open JIRAs for them after we have merged).
– Ufuk
Re: New project website
Posted by Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>.
Hey everyone,
Thanks for the feedback.
I think we are in a state to merge this and continue with incremental changes. We should rather continuously improve the website instead of doing these stop-the-world all-or-nothing changes. ;-) The updated preview is still here: http://uce.github.io/flink-web
# Adressed:
- Stick with current features overview (raised by Felix, Stephan, Volker)
* Felix: I like the current design better, since you get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures
* Stephan: Add some pictures for features
* Volker: I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what it is about quickly in a concise way? I believe that the landing page should give information about features in a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) ) before going into details.
- Tag Line (raised by Robert, Alexander, Stephan)
* Fabian: I am always suspicious if someone says "real-time"; The frontpage / first sentence does not make clear that Flink is also for Batch (<- Same point Robert raised)
* Robert: The front page doesn't contain the word "batch" at all. People might be confused
* Alexander: I think the top row text to be slightly revised. Flink offers a unified runtime and APIs for both batch + streaming, but at the moment the tagline suggests it is streaming only.
* Stephan: Having a more prominent tag line
=> changed tag line to have batch and streaming in it (no real time)
- Stack figure:
1. Don't stack high-level APIs and Libraries on top of each other (raised by Fabian, Alexander, Vasia)
* Fabian: Don't stack libraries. It suggests that they depend on each other. Can we put them vertical like on our slides?
* Alexander: Is there a particular reason why the APIs are stacked above each other in the picture (ML on top of Gelly on top of the Table API)? I was actually picturing the three next to each other...
* Vasia: It might look like Gelly is built on top of Table API and ML on top of Gelly. Also, I get why Table is both on top of DataSet and DataStream, but I would add each component once and have a note "batch & streaming" instead of copying. First time I saw this on some slides, I thought it was a mistake :/
3. Improve image quality (raised by Vasia)
* Vasia: The stack image is a bit blurry.
4. Remove term language-integrated query (raised by Stephan)
* Stephan: remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I think that is trademarked by Microsoft
- Align frontpage cells Frontpage cell alignment (raised by Alexander, Felix, Timo, Stephan)
* Alexander: I suggest to change the layout of the bottom half in the following way [...]
* Felix: Can you align the structure that there aren't as many overlaps?
* Timo: I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
* Stephan: align the content as per Felix' suggestion
- Disqus comments for blog (raised by Robert)
* Robert: The disqus comments are missing in the blog
=> readded it to single posts
- Twitter on front page (raised by Robert, Ted)
* Robert: The link to our twitter account could be more prominent. Maybe on the front page?
* Ted: If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing that on the home page
- Broken links (raised by Robert, Fabian):
* Robert: The frontpage link to the setup is broken => this is missing text in the docs, the link is OK
* Fabian: Links in the right-side menu of the main blog pages are broken
- Top navbar:
1. Add Community tab to navbar (raised by Vasia)
* Vasia: +1 for Community in the front page, but why not also keep the link in the menu?
2. Fix logo dimensions in Chrome (raised by Vasia)
* Vasia: The logo in the menu is quite disproportional in Chrome and looks quite bad.
- Too wide for text (raised by Fabian):
* Fabian: I find the text area a bit too wide for comfortable reading, especially for long texts such as blog posts or the how to contribute guide.
- Streamed data inside the system (raised by Fabian):
* Fabian: Data is not always "streamed all the way" in batch programs. There are also dams.
# Won't address
- Table API on front page (raised by Robert)
* why is the "Table API" so prominent on the front page? Other staging projects like python or the hadoop compat don't get a mention at all.
- Features: API text (raised by Fabian)
* You can use native Java and Scala data types without packing them into key-value pairs, logical field addressing, and a wealth of operators." -> Sentence can be misunderstood ("without packaging [...], logical field addressing, and a wealth of operators")
=> this is our current text on the front page.
- Scala vs. Java code snippets (raised by Fabian)
* Fabian: The usual question: Java or Scala code snippets
=> I'll keep the Java snippets for now. We can change this incrementally.
- Too few FAQ entries (raised by Fabian)
* Fabian: I agree that some of the FAQs are outdated, but I guess more than two are still relevant. We might think about adding more common questions that we see on SO or the mailing lists.
=> The previous FAQ had irrelevant questions for the general project. This change separates docs FAQ and project FAQ. We need to add more questions though! I saw that Spark has a very nice project faq (https://spark.apache.org/faq.html) and we certainly have heard some of those questions as well.
# To be addressed
- Declutter (raised by Stephan, Kostas)
* Stephan: tendency to pack too much content into a small space.
* Kostas: I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
- Codetabs.js (raised by Robert)
* Robert: The codetabs.js file contains (and actually logs) "HERE" to the javascript console of my browser. Looks like some leftover debugging code. codetabs.js also gets a "Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined" on the downloads page.
=> Not our code and I didn't have time to look into it
- Increase font difference between headings (raised by Timo)
* Timo: I would increase the font difference between headings and subheadings
- Quickstarts (raised by Timo, Fabian)
* Timo: Quickstart is missing
* Fabian: Getting started does not link to the Quickstarts / Maven archetypes & only shows Maven dependencies for Java API
- Too large pictures in blog posts (raised by Fabian)
* Fabian: Pictures in some blog posts are too large, IMO (Streaming, Hadoop, Join post)
- Broken links (raised by Robert, Fabian)
* Robert: basically all links to the documentation in the blog are broken
* Fabian: Links in latest blog posts not working
- Add beta badge to components in flink-staging (raised by Robert)
* Robert: Do you think adding a very little "Beta" badge on the system stack at the front page to the beta components would be a good idea? I think we should manage the expectations there. ML, gelly and the table API are all not part of any official stable release.
On 13 May 2015, at 17:40, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> That is a good thing to have, agreed.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For me personally, would like to still keep the architecture image [1]
>> to show how it interacts with other systems.
>>
>> This usually help people to see how Flink could fit into their
>> existing infrastructure pieces.
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>>
>> [1] http://flink.apache.org/img/WhatIsFlink.png
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>>>
>>> - Having a more prominent tag line
>>> - Add some pictures for features back
>>> - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>>>
>>> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious
>> content
>>> in the starting page.
>>>
>>> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
>>> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One
>> thing
>>>> we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
>>>> points would you like to see in the frontpage?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
>>>> volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -1
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
>>>>> documentation than a front page.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find
>> what
>>>>> it is about quickly in a concise way?
>>>>> I believe that the landing page should give information about
>> features
>>>> in
>>>>> a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
>>>>> before going into details.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than
>> the
>>>>> new design. To me the new design looks like
>>>>> a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not
>> like
>>>>> the starting page of the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Volker
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag
>> von
>>>>> Stephan Ewen
>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
>>>>> An: dev@flink.apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: New project website
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy
>> hipster"
>>>>> website.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to
>> pack
>>>>> too much content into a small space.
>>>>> For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it
>> may
>>>>> help to space things out a bit...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
>>>>>> information targeted to the user group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
>>>>>> smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running
>> it
>>>>>>> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>>>>>>> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
>>>>>>> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
>>>>>>> vertical separator between the getting started and the
>> blog/community
>>>>> section.
>>>>>>> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
>>>>>>> <ne...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ufuk,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
>>>>>>>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
>>>>>>>> than a starting page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
>>>>>>>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
>>>>>>>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
>>>>> or/and wiki).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure
>> that
>>>>>>>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>>>>>>>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
>>>>>>>> starting pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
>>>>>>>>> Queries", I
>>>>>>>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
>>>>>>>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> merge
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
>>>>>>>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
>>>>>>>>>>> framing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the home page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> share the preview:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – Ufuk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: New project website
Posted by Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>.
That is a good thing to have, agreed.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> For me personally, would like to still keep the architecture image [1]
> to show how it interacts with other systems.
>
> This usually help people to see how Flink could fit into their
> existing infrastructure pieces.
>
> - Henry
>
>
> [1] http://flink.apache.org/img/WhatIsFlink.png
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
> >
> > - Having a more prominent tag line
> > - Add some pictures for features back
> > - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
> >
> > That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious
> content
> > in the starting page.
> >
> > I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
> > on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
> >>
> >> Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One
> thing
> >> we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
> >> points would you like to see in the frontpage?
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
> >> volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> > -1
> >> >
> >> > Dear all,
> >> >
> >> > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
> >> >
> >> > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
> >> > documentation than a front page.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find
> what
> >> > it is about quickly in a concise way?
> >> > I believe that the landing page should give information about
> features
> >> in
> >> > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
> >> > before going into details.
> >> >
> >> > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than
> the
> >> > new design. To me the new design looks like
> >> > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not
> like
> >> > the starting page of the project.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Volker
> >> >
> >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag
> von
> >> > Stephan Ewen
> >> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
> >> > An: dev@flink.apache.org
> >> > Betreff: Re: New project website
> >> >
> >> > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy
> hipster"
> >> > website.
> >> >
> >> > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to
> pack
> >> > too much content into a small space.
> >> > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it
> may
> >> > help to space things out a bit...
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> >> > > information targeted to the user group.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> >> > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
> >> > >> documentation.
> >> > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running
> it
> >> > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> >> > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
> >> > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
> >> > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the
> blog/community
> >> > section.
> >> > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
> >> > >> <ne...@googlemail.com>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi Ufuk,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
> >> > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
> >> > >>> than a starting page.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
> >> > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
> >> > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
> >> > or/and wiki).
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure
> that
> >> > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> >> > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
> >> > >>> starting pages.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Best regards,
> >> > >>> Felix
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Great!
> >> > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
> >> > >>>> Queries", I
> >> > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
> >> > >>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
> >> > >>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>> merge
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>> issues
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> and
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
> >> > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
> >> > >>>>>> framing
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> that
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> on
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> the home page.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Hey all,
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
> >> > >>>>>>>> would
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> like
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> to
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> share the preview:
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
> >> > >>>>>>>> updates
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> at
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> any
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> current
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> status
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> today.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> – Ufuk
> >> > >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
For me personally, would like to still keep the architecture image [1]
to show how it interacts with other systems.
This usually help people to see how Flink could fit into their
existing infrastructure pieces.
- Henry
[1] http://flink.apache.org/img/WhatIsFlink.png
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>
> - Having a more prominent tag line
> - Add some pictures for features back
> - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>
> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
> in the starting page.
>
> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
>>
>> Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing
>> we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
>> points would you like to see in the frontpage?
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
>> volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>
>> > -1
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>> >
>> > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
>> > documentation than a front page.
>> >
>> > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what
>> > it is about quickly in a concise way?
>> > I believe that the landing page should give information about features
>> in
>> > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
>> > before going into details.
>> >
>> > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
>> > new design. To me the new design looks like
>> > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like
>> > the starting page of the project.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Volker
>> >
>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
>> > Stephan Ewen
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
>> > An: dev@flink.apache.org
>> > Betreff: Re: New project website
>> >
>> > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
>> > website.
>> >
>> > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack
>> > too much content into a small space.
>> > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may
>> > help to space things out a bit...
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
>> > > information targeted to the user group.
>> > >
>> > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
>> > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
>> > >> documentation.
>> > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it
>> > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>> > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>> > >>
>> > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
>> > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
>> > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community
>> > section.
>> > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
>> > >> <ne...@googlemail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi Ufuk,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
>> > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
>> > >>> than a starting page.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
>> > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
>> > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
>> > or/and wiki).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
>> > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>> > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
>> > >>> starting pages.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best regards,
>> > >>> Felix
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Great!
>> > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
>> > >>>> Queries", I
>> > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
>> > >>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
>> > >>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> merge
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> issues
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
>> > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
>> > >>>>>> framing
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> that
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> on
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> the home page.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hey all,
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
>> > >>>>>>>> would
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> like
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> share the preview:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
>> > >>>>>>>> updates
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> at
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> any
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> current
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> status
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> today.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> – Ufuk
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >
>> >
>>
Re: New project website
Posted by Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>.
I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
- Having a more prominent tag line
- Add some pictures for features back
- align the content as per Felix' suggestion
That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
in the starting page.
I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
>
> Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing
> we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
> points would you like to see in the frontpage?
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
> volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> > -1
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
> >
> > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
> > documentation than a front page.
> >
> > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what
> > it is about quickly in a concise way?
> > I believe that the landing page should give information about features
> in
> > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
> > before going into details.
> >
> > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
> > new design. To me the new design looks like
> > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like
> > the starting page of the project.
> >
> > Best,
> > Volker
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> > Stephan Ewen
> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
> > An: dev@flink.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: New project website
> >
> > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
> > website.
> >
> > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack
> > too much content into a small space.
> > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may
> > help to space things out a bit...
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> > > information targeted to the user group.
> > >
> > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
> > >> documentation.
> > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it
> > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
> > >>
> > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
> > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
> > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community
> > section.
> > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
> > >> <ne...@googlemail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Ufuk,
> > >>>
> > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
> > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
> > >>> than a starting page.
> > >>>
> > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
> > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
> > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
> > or/and wiki).
> > >>>
> > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
> > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
> > >>>
> > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
> > >>> starting pages.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>> Felix
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>
> > >>> Great!
> > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
> > >>>> Queries", I
> > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
> > >>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> merge
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> issues
> > >>>
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
> > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
> > >>>>>> framing
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> that
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the home page.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hey all,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
> > >>>>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> like
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> share the preview:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
> > >>>>>>>> updates
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> at
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> any
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> current
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> status
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> today.
> > >>>
> > >>>> – Ufuk
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Kostas Tzoumas <kt...@apache.org>.
Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing
we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
points would you like to see in the frontpage?
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> -1
>
> Dear all,
>
> first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>
> However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
> documentation than a front page.
>
> I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what
> it is about quickly in a concise way?
> I believe that the landing page should give information about features in
> a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
> before going into details.
>
> I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
> new design. To me the new design looks like
> a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like
> the starting page of the project.
>
> Best,
> Volker
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> Stephan Ewen
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
> An: dev@flink.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: New project website
>
> I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
> website.
>
> The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack
> too much content into a small space.
> For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may
> help to space things out a bit...
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> > information targeted to the user group.
> >
> > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
> >
> >
> > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> >
> >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
> >> documentation.
> >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it
> >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
> >>
> >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
> >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
> >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community
> section.
> >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
> >> <ne...@googlemail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Ufuk,
> >>>
> >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
> >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
> >>> than a starting page.
> >>>
> >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
> >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
> >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
> or/and wiki).
> >>>
> >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
> >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
> >>>
> >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
> >>> starting pages.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Felix
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Great!
> >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
> >>>> Queries", I
> >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Otherwise, +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
> >>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> merge
> >>>>
> >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> issues
> >>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
> >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
> >>>>>> framing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the home page.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> share the preview:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
> >>>>>>>> updates
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>> any
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> current
> >>>>
> >>>>> status
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> today.
> >>>
> >>>> – Ufuk
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
>
AW: New project website
Posted by "Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr." <vo...@tu-berlin.de>.
-1
Dear all,
first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a documentation than a front page.
I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what it is about quickly in a concise way?
I believe that the landing page should give information about features in a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
before going into details.
I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the new design. To me the new design looks like
a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like the starting page of the project.
Best,
Volker
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Stephan Ewen
Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
An: dev@flink.apache.org
Betreff: Re: New project website
I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
website.
The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack too much content into a small space.
For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may help to space things out a bit...
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org> wrote:
> I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> information targeted to the user group.
>
> I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>
>
> On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>
>> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
>> documentation.
>> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it
>> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>>
>> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
>> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
>> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community section.
>> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
>> <ne...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ufuk,
>>>
>>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
>>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
>>> than a starting page.
>>>
>>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
>>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
>>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation or/and wiki).
>>>
>>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
>>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>>>
>>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
>>> starting pages.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Felix
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Great!
>>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
>>>> Queries", I
>>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, +1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
>>>>> <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>> merge
>>>>
>>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>>>>>>
>>>>> issues
>>>
>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
>>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
>>>>>> framing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the home page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> share the preview:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>> any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current
>>>>
>>>>> status
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> today.
>>>
>>>> – Ufuk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>.
I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
website.
The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack
too much content into a small space.
For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may
help to space things out a bit...
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org> wrote:
> I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical information
> targeted to the user group.
>
> I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>
>
> On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>
>> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
>> documentation.
>> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it on a
>> cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>>
>> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help visual
>> structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the vertical
>> separator between the getting started and the blog/community section.
>> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz <ne...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ufuk,
>>>
>>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my opinion
>>> your page design looks more like a documentation webpage than a starting
>>> page.
>>>
>>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you get a
>>> really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you wanna dive in
>>> deep, you can check out things in the documentation or/and wiki).
>>>
>>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that there
>>> aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>>>
>>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
>>> starting
>>> pages.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Felix
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Great!
>>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I
>>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, +1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to
>>>>>>
>>>>> merge
>>>>
>>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>>>>>>
>>>>> issues
>>>
>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the home page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> share the preview:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>> any
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current
>>>>
>>>>> status
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> today.
>>>
>>>> – Ufuk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>.
I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
information targeted to the user group.
I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
> documentation.
> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it on a
> cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>
> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help visual
> structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the vertical
> separator between the getting started and the blog/community section.
> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz <ne...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ufuk,
>>
>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my opinion
>> your page design looks more like a documentation webpage than a starting
>> page.
>>
>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you get a
>> really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you wanna dive in
>> deep, you can check out things in the documentation or/and wiki).
>>
>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that there
>> aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>>
>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about starting
>> pages.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Felix
>>
>>
>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Great!
>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I
>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, +1
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to
>>> merge
>>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>> issues
>>>> and
>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing
>>>> that
>>>>> on
>>>>>> the home page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would
>>> like
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> share the preview:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates
>>> at
>>>>> any
>>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>>> current
>>>>>> status
>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>> today.
>>>>>>> – Ufuk
Re: New project website
Posted by Robert Metzger <rm...@apache.org>.
I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
documentation.
Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it on a
cluster or developers programming against APIs.
I think the new website will convince this target audience.
I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help visual
structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the vertical
separator between the getting started and the blog/community section.
The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz <ne...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Ufuk,
>
> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my opinion
> your page design looks more like a documentation webpage than a starting
> page.
>
> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you get a
> really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you wanna dive in
> deep, you can check out things in the documentation or/and wiki).
>
> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that there
> aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>
> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about starting
> pages.
>
> Best regards,
> Felix
>
>
> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Great!
> > It looks way better than the current site :)
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I
> > > think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, +1
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to
> > merge
> > > > this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
> issues
> > > and
> > > > add a twitter feed to the front page.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing
> > > that
> > > > on
> > > > > the home page.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > share the preview:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates
> > at
> > > > any
> > > > > > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
> > current
> > > > > status
> > > > > > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
> today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > – Ufuk
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Felix Neutatz <ne...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Ufuk,
I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my opinion
your page design looks more like a documentation webpage than a starting
page.
In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you get a
really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you wanna dive in
deep, you can check out things in the documentation or/and wiki).
Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that there
aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about starting
pages.
Best regards,
Felix
2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>:
> Great!
> It looks way better than the current site :)
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I
> > think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> >
> > Otherwise, +1
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to
> merge
> > > this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining issues
> > and
> > > add a twitter feed to the front page.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing
> > that
> > > on
> > > > the home page.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would
> like
> > > to
> > > > > share the preview:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates
> at
> > > any
> > > > > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
> current
> > > > status
> > > > > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
> > > > >
> > > > > – Ufuk
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Hermann Gábor <re...@gmail.com>.
Great!
It looks way better than the current site :)
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I
> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>
> Otherwise, +1
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to merge
> > this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining issues
> and
> > add a twitter feed to the front page.
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing
> that
> > on
> > > the home page.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey all,
> > > >
> > > > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like
> > to
> > > > share the preview:
> > > >
> > > > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > > >
> > > > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at
> > any
> > > > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current
> > > status
> > > > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
> > > >
> > > > – Ufuk
> > >
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>.
I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated Queries", I
think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
Otherwise, +1
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to merge
> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining issues and
> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing that
> on
> > the home page.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like
> to
> > > share the preview:
> > >
> > > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > >
> > > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at
> any
> > > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current
> > status
> > > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
> > >
> > > – Ufuk
> >
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>.
+1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest to merge
this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining issues and
add a twitter feed to the front page.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing that on
> the home page.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to
> > share the preview:
> >
> > http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> >
> > I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any
> > time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current
> status
> > quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
> >
> > – Ufuk
>
Re: New project website
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend framing that on
the home page.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and would like to
> share the preview:
>
> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>
> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental updates at any
> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the current status
> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website today.
>
> – Ufuk