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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@relativity.yi.org> on 2000/02/07 01:42:06 UTC

PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

(Sorry for the cross post)

I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".

So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
technology issues for Apache projects.  

I was thinking about how we should organize these:

- BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
Wednesday or a Thursday.

- A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
representative would speak shortly about its future direction and 
architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
general issues.

- Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
project developments.

Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
hours.

If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
the time, etc.

Thoughts?

-- 

Kevin A Burton
http://relativity.yi.org
Message to SUN:  Open Source Java!
"For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."

Re: PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

Posted by "Anil K. Vijendran" <An...@eng.sun.com>.
We can certainly dedicate an area on jakarta.apache.org (atleast for the
Jakarta project) for this. 

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:

> +1.  I think it would be a good idea to setup a website (with a
> discussion forum) which would archive all the notes as well as outline
> the future meetings.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> "Anil K. Vijendran" wrote:
> > 
> > This is a really good idea considering there is a significant population
> > of folks here that are in the bay area.
> > 
> > I'm all for it. In terms of process, I'd like to add a small note that
> > someone volunteers to take notes for eah BAADG meeting and post it to this
> > list for the benefit of those that can't make it to the meeting.
> > 
> > I'd be more than happy to arrange a venue at Sun -- Cupertino, Mtn View,
> > Menlo Park whichever is convienient for people.
> > 
> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:
> > 
> > > (Sorry for the cross post)
> > >
> > > I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
> > > productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
> > > Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
> > > almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
> > > lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".
> > >
> > > So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
> > > Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
> > > on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
> > > meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
> > > technology issues for Apache projects.
> > >
> > > I was thinking about how we should organize these:
> > >
> > > - BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
> > > Wednesday or a Thursday.
> > >
> > > - A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
> > > representative would speak shortly about its future direction and
> > > architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
> > > general issues.
> > >
> > > - Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
> > > Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
> > > project developments.
> > >
> > > Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
> > > companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
> > > Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
> > > these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
> > > hours.
> > >
> > > If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
> > > initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
> > > the time, etc.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kevin A Burton
> http://relativity.yi.org
> Message to SUN:  "Open Source Java!"
> "For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> 
> 

--
Peace, Anil +<:-)



Re: PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

Posted by "Anil K. Vijendran" <An...@eng.sun.com>.
We can certainly dedicate an area on jakarta.apache.org (atleast for the
Jakarta project) for this. 

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:

> +1.  I think it would be a good idea to setup a website (with a
> discussion forum) which would archive all the notes as well as outline
> the future meetings.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> "Anil K. Vijendran" wrote:
> > 
> > This is a really good idea considering there is a significant population
> > of folks here that are in the bay area.
> > 
> > I'm all for it. In terms of process, I'd like to add a small note that
> > someone volunteers to take notes for eah BAADG meeting and post it to this
> > list for the benefit of those that can't make it to the meeting.
> > 
> > I'd be more than happy to arrange a venue at Sun -- Cupertino, Mtn View,
> > Menlo Park whichever is convienient for people.
> > 
> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:
> > 
> > > (Sorry for the cross post)
> > >
> > > I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
> > > productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
> > > Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
> > > almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
> > > lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".
> > >
> > > So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
> > > Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
> > > on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
> > > meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
> > > technology issues for Apache projects.
> > >
> > > I was thinking about how we should organize these:
> > >
> > > - BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
> > > Wednesday or a Thursday.
> > >
> > > - A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
> > > representative would speak shortly about its future direction and
> > > architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
> > > general issues.
> > >
> > > - Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
> > > Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
> > > project developments.
> > >
> > > Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
> > > companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
> > > Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
> > > these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
> > > hours.
> > >
> > > If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
> > > initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
> > > the time, etc.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kevin A Burton
> http://relativity.yi.org
> Message to SUN:  "Open Source Java!"
> "For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> 
> 

--
Peace, Anil +<:-)



Re: PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

Posted by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@relativity.yi.org>.
+1.  I think it would be a good idea to setup a website (with a
discussion forum) which would archive all the notes as well as outline
the future meetings.

Kevin

"Anil K. Vijendran" wrote:
> 
> This is a really good idea considering there is a significant population
> of folks here that are in the bay area.
> 
> I'm all for it. In terms of process, I'd like to add a small note that
> someone volunteers to take notes for eah BAADG meeting and post it to this
> list for the benefit of those that can't make it to the meeting.
> 
> I'd be more than happy to arrange a venue at Sun -- Cupertino, Mtn View,
> Menlo Park whichever is convienient for people.
> 
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:
> 
> > (Sorry for the cross post)
> >
> > I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
> > productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
> > Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
> > almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
> > lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".
> >
> > So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
> > Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
> > on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
> > meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
> > technology issues for Apache projects.
> >
> > I was thinking about how we should organize these:
> >
> > - BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
> > Wednesday or a Thursday.
> >
> > - A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
> > representative would speak shortly about its future direction and
> > architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
> > general issues.
> >
> > - Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
> > Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
> > project developments.
> >
> > Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
> > companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
> > Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
> > these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
> > hours.
> >
> > If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
> > initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
> > the time, etc.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >

-- 

Kevin A Burton
http://relativity.yi.org
Message to SUN:  "Open Source Java!"
"For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."

Re: PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

Posted by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@relativity.yi.org>.
+1.  I think it would be a good idea to setup a website (with a
discussion forum) which would archive all the notes as well as outline
the future meetings.

Kevin

"Anil K. Vijendran" wrote:
> 
> This is a really good idea considering there is a significant population
> of folks here that are in the bay area.
> 
> I'm all for it. In terms of process, I'd like to add a small note that
> someone volunteers to take notes for eah BAADG meeting and post it to this
> list for the benefit of those that can't make it to the meeting.
> 
> I'd be more than happy to arrange a venue at Sun -- Cupertino, Mtn View,
> Menlo Park whichever is convienient for people.
> 
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:
> 
> > (Sorry for the cross post)
> >
> > I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
> > productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
> > Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
> > almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
> > lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".
> >
> > So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
> > Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
> > on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
> > meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
> > technology issues for Apache projects.
> >
> > I was thinking about how we should organize these:
> >
> > - BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
> > Wednesday or a Thursday.
> >
> > - A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
> > representative would speak shortly about its future direction and
> > architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
> > general issues.
> >
> > - Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
> > Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
> > project developments.
> >
> > Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
> > companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
> > Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
> > these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
> > hours.
> >
> > If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
> > initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
> > the time, etc.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >

-- 

Kevin A Burton
http://relativity.yi.org
Message to SUN:  "Open Source Java!"
"For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."

Re: PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

Posted by "Anil K. Vijendran" <An...@eng.sun.com>.
This is a really good idea considering there is a significant population
of folks here that are in the bay area. 

I'm all for it. In terms of process, I'd like to add a small note that
someone volunteers to take notes for eah BAADG meeting and post it to this
list for the benefit of those that can't make it to the meeting. 

I'd be more than happy to arrange a venue at Sun -- Cupertino, Mtn View,
Menlo Park whichever is convienient for people. 

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:

> (Sorry for the cross post)
> 
> I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
> productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
> Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
> almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
> lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".
> 
> So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
> Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
> on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
> meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
> technology issues for Apache projects.  
> 
> I was thinking about how we should organize these:
> 
> - BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
> Wednesday or a Thursday.
> 
> - A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
> representative would speak shortly about its future direction and 
> architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
> general issues.
> 
> - Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
> Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
> project developments.
> 
> Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
> companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
> Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
> these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
> hours.
> 
> If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
> initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
> the time, etc.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kevin A Burton
> http://relativity.yi.org
> Message to SUN:  Open Source Java!
> "For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> 
> 

--
Peace, Anil +<:-)



Re: PROPOSAL: Bay Area (Silicon Valley) Apache Developers Group

Posted by "Anil K. Vijendran" <An...@eng.sun.com>.
This is a really good idea considering there is a significant population
of folks here that are in the bay area. 

I'm all for it. In terms of process, I'd like to add a small note that
someone volunteers to take notes for eah BAADG meeting and post it to this
list for the benefit of those that can't make it to the meeting. 

I'd be more than happy to arrange a venue at Sun -- Cupertino, Mtn View,
Menlo Park whichever is convienient for people. 

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Kevin A. Burton wrote:

> (Sorry for the cross post)
> 
> I have been doing some creating thinking about how we could all be more
> productive.  It seems that there are a lot of people here from the Bay
> Area (Silicon Valley California).  It seems a shame that we are an
> almost 100% digital society.  We need to become more analog.  There is a
> lot of productivity that can be gained with actual "face time".
> 
> So what I propose is that once a month we have a Bay Area Apache
> Developers Group.  Specifically so that people who are active developers
> on Apache projects (and people who want to become active developers) can
> meet and discuss technical issues, plan project goals and general
> technology issues for Apache projects.  
> 
> I was thinking about how we should organize these:
> 
> - BAADG should meet once a month for about 3 hours... maybe on a
> Wednesday or a Thursday.
> 
> - A certain project could be chosen (Apache HTTPD, Jakarta, etc.) and a
> representative would speak shortly about its future direction and 
> architecture decisions.  Then the floor could be opened to talk about
> general issues.
> 
> - Then we could break up into functional units (Core Apache, XML Apache,
> Java Apache, etc.) and talk about things we are interested in and future
> project developments.
> 
> Since Apache has a lot of corporate interest I am sure the larger
> companies like SUN, IBM, Netscape, Microsoft (serious), Yahoo, Excite,
> Cisco, etc. wouldn't mind hosting us.  Apache developers who work for
> these companies could use their leverage to get office space for a few
> hours.
> 
> If everyone agrees ( and there are enough developers) I will take the
> initiative and plan the first BAADG meeting, finding a location, setting
> the time, etc.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kevin A Burton
> http://relativity.yi.org
> Message to SUN:  Open Source Java!
> "For evil to win is for good men to do nothing."
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org
> 
> 

--
Peace, Anil +<:-)