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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> on 2006/01/06 17:01:57 UTC
Going to TLP report
Just to report on my push for subprojects to move to TLP. I've hassled 6
subprojects so far:
* Slide: +1 (for a long time) though not very active which is why it's not
moved.
* Tapestry: They were +1 early last year; waiting until after 4.0 before
bringing the subject up again.
* Cactus: Seem to be +1 on a testing.apache.org TLP
* JMeter: afk over the holidays. pinged.
* Turbine: No reply on mailling list; at ApacheCon those I talked to were
generally -0. I think it really needs to stand alone as a TLP though.
* Velocity: -0.5 from talking at ApacheCon. It seems far more component
like than framework like (unlike Turbine above), but the existence of
NVelocity strikes me as a reason to go TLP and bring it in.
[nvelocity.sourceforge.net]
Hen
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Re: Going to TLP report
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 03:56 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > * Turbine: No reply on mailling list; at ApacheCon those I talked to were
> > generally -0. I think it really needs to stand alone as a TLP though.
>
> Need to prod.
Don't know about the other committers, but I'm currently over my head in
other stuff and have no network for private use during the week and a
family that demands some attention on the weekends.
So sorry, for not reacting. However, this is basically the problem of
Turbine. We have a number of committers on the -dev list and quite a
number of users on the -users list. But there are none of the users that
seem to suggest to pull them into the -dev space.
Turbine _needs_ more committers before going TLP. So I'd like you to
treat us like Velocity. At least I am currently quite happy being a part
of Jakarta.
Best regards
Henning
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Re: Going to TLP report
Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> Just to update.
>
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>>
>> Just to report on my push for subprojects to move to TLP. I've hassled
>> 6 subprojects so far:
>>
>>
>> * Slide: +1 (for a long time) though not very active which is why it's
>> not
>> moved.
>
>
> Prodded.
>
Maybe an interesting thread about slide :
http://www.mail-archive.com/jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org/msg03982.html
Mvgr,
Martin
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Re: Going to TLP report
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
Just to update.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> Just to report on my push for subprojects to move to TLP. I've hassled 6
> subprojects so far:
>
>
> * Slide: +1 (for a long time) though not very active which is why it's not
> moved.
Prodded.
> * Tapestry: They were +1 early last year; waiting until after 4.0 before
> bringing the subject up again.
Subject for this week.
> * Cactus: Seem to be +1 on a testing.apache.org TLP
>
> * JMeter: afk over the holidays. pinged.
JMeter + Cactus are both in favour of creating testing.apache.org.
> * Turbine: No reply on mailling list; at ApacheCon those I talked to were
> generally -0. I think it really needs to stand alone as a TLP though.
Need to prod.
> * Velocity: -0.5 from talking at ApacheCon. It seems far more component like
> than framework like (unlike Turbine above), but the existence of NVelocity
> strikes me as a reason to go TLP and bring it in. [nvelocity.sourceforge.net]
Velocity consensus seems to be to remain a component at Jakarta, so I'll
stop prodding them :)
Hen
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Re: Going to TLP report
Posted by Felipe Leme <ja...@felipeal.net>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> On the people side of things, that means finding Manual, getting his
> permission and then talking to any other committers (who'll probably be
> fine with it I suspect if Manual has said yes).
Good news - I've found Manuel and he agreed; I also 'grepped' for the
total of authors and there are 13 total. So I have sent another message
to the list explaining the situation and more contributors agreed - the
tally is now 7/13 and I will wait a couple of days before going after
any of the remaining 6 individually...
> Be sure to use the phrase 'Apache DbUnit' somewhere in the email ;)
Or Apache DBUnit...
-- Felipe
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Re: Going to TLP report
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Felipe Leme wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>> * Cactus: Seem to be +1 on a testing.apache.org TLP
>
> By speaking of the TAO TLP (cool name :-), I 'extended' the invitation to the
> dbunit project (which is currently on SourceForge and facing some
> administrative issues over there) and they agreed.
>
> Actually, by 'they' I mean Eric Pugh, which is the only active committer of
> the project at the moment (though I might be joining the project soon) and
> also a Jakarta PMC member.
>
> The only possible problem is regarding the license, as the code is LGPL based
> and the founder and main author, Manuel LaFlamme, has disappeared for more
> than a year. Do you have any clue on which procedure we should take in this
> case? (note that I was going to do some research before posting this message
> to the lists, but as you brought the subject back to the surface, I'm taking
> a shortcut :-)
It'd depend on how copyright was handled I believe; but assuming it's the
same as most projects, ie) not handled at all, I'm guessing you'd have to
talk to all committers for their permission.
On the people side of things, that means finding Manual, getting his
permission and then talking to any other committers (who'll probably be
fine with it I suspect if Manual has said yes).
Be sure to use the phrase 'Apache DbUnit' somewhere in the email ;)
Hen
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Re: Going to TLP report
Posted by Felipe Leme <ja...@felipeal.net>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> * Cactus: Seem to be +1 on a testing.apache.org TLP
By speaking of the TAO TLP (cool name :-), I 'extended' the invitation
to the dbunit project (which is currently on SourceForge and facing some
administrative issues over there) and they agreed.
Actually, by 'they' I mean Eric Pugh, which is the only active committer
of the project at the moment (though I might be joining the project
soon) and also a Jakarta PMC member.
The only possible problem is regarding the license, as the code is LGPL
based and the founder and main author, Manuel LaFlamme, has disappeared
for more than a year. Do you have any clue on which procedure we should
take in this case? (note that I was going to do some research before
posting this message to the lists, but as you brought the subject back
to the surface, I'm taking a shortcut :-)
-- Felipe
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