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Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Greets,
Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
SHEPHERD PODLING
--------------------------
Alan Cabrera Falcon
Alan Cabrera MetaModel
Alan Cabrera Tajo
Dave Fisher Drill
Dave Fisher S4
Matt Franklin Olingo
Matt Franklin Provisionr
Ross Gardler Wave
Matt Hogstrom Sentry
Benson Marguilies Spark
Suresh Marru Allura
Suresh Marru Samza
Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet
Roman Shaposhnik MRQL
Roman Shaposhnik Streams
Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday, September 10.
I will collect all of them into a single email and send to general@incubator
after the report is filed.
Thanks!
Marvin Humphrey
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[S4] Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi - Here is my report for S4.
S4 know how make releases. Is concerned about community growth and think that may impede graduation.
I think that they are actually ready to graduate.
Regards,
Dave
On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Greets,
>
> Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
>
> SHEPHERD PODLING
> --------------------------
> Alan Cabrera Falcon
> Alan Cabrera MetaModel
> Alan Cabrera Tajo
> Dave Fisher Drill
> Dave Fisher S4
> Matt Franklin Olingo
> Matt Franklin Provisionr
> Ross Gardler Wave
> Matt Hogstrom Sentry
> Benson Marguilies Spark
> Suresh Marru Allura
> Suresh Marru Samza
> Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet
> Roman Shaposhnik MRQL
> Roman Shaposhnik Streams
>
> Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday, September 10.
> I will collect all of them into a single email and send to general@incubator
> after the report is filed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry for any consternation. Best of luck. I do think that once your
> podling does release that TLP status should come soon.
>
I would say that we have a little more practice needed in incubator. But
the progress is happening.
One issue that Drill does have is that the committer pool is a bit small so
getting enough binding votes takes a bit of coordination. There are lots
and lots of contributors who should be moved up a notch, though, so that
problem is easy to fix.
Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
Well I was late with my retraction. So, I did so to the board directly and with the report.
Sorry for any consternation. Best of luck. I do think that once your podling does release that TLP status should come soon.
Regards,
Dave
On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi Ted,
>
> OK. I did a look through the dev archives and while quick I really did not see a conversation.
>
> However, on second look I do see it. The list is very active and it was hard to see.
>
> I am rephrasing my shepherds comments.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> I would take some issue with your comments here.
>>
>> If you look at what is happening right now, the entire Drill team is
>> focussed on making a release and particularly focussed on getting the IP
>> issues right. There have been several release candidates posted and the
>> community members have been reviewing these and working through the
>> identified issues very systematically. This is the first release of this
>> code under Apache guidelines and most of the developers are new to Apache.
>> As such, it is hardly surprising that there is a lack of experience in
>> getting the form right for IP clearance. The current process is a good
>> learning experience and contributors are pitching in whole-heartedly and
>> almost all issues have been addressed.
>>
>> As I pointed out when you asked a question on the mailing list, the lack of
>> incubator disclaimer had already been noted, a JIRA filed and a patch
>> posted even before you noticed it. I would like to also point out also
>> that all of the mentors have been active in reviewing release candidates
>> and the mentors were the ones who first raised the IP issues.
>>
>> I would request that you rephrase or retract the comment "does not seem to
>> include any drive to make any release". There is absolutely a drive for a
>> release and it is bearing fruit as we write.
>>
>> We do appreciate your positive comment on our community building efforts.
>> We are working *very* hard on that (along with building kick-ass
>> technology into kick-ass code packaged up in a kick-ass and fully IP
>> cleared release).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
>>> and on most web pages.
>>>
>>> There is a lot of activity but it does not seem to include any drive to
>>> make any release.
>>>
>>> There is tremendous community building activity.
>>>
>>> Heavy on community and light on IP clearance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greets,
>>>>
>>>> Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
>>>>
>>>> SHEPHERD PODLING
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> Alan Cabrera Falcon
>>>> Alan Cabrera MetaModel
>>>> Alan Cabrera Tajo
>>>> Dave Fisher Drill
>>>> Dave Fisher S4
>>>> Matt Franklin Olingo
>>>> Matt Franklin Provisionr
>>>> Ross Gardler Wave
>>>> Matt Hogstrom Sentry
>>>> Benson Marguilies Spark
>>>> Suresh Marru Allura
>>>> Suresh Marru Samza
>>>> Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet
>>>> Roman Shaposhnik MRQL
>>>> Roman Shaposhnik Streams
>>>>
>>>> Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday,
>>> September 10.
>>>> I will collect all of them into a single email and send to
>>> general@incubator
>>>> after the report is filed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>wrote:
> Thanks to Dave for his long record of contributing as a shepherd.
>
Indeed.
And thanks to Dave for checking out Drill. More eyes on a project is
always a good thing.
Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I am rephrasing my shepherds comments.
The report was filed last night, one week in advance of the monthly meeting as
per the Board's stated deadline.
In order to avert a messy post-deadline debate about exactly what should
language should go into the report, I have made an executive call as IPMC
Chair and amended the Board meeting agenda, removing all shepherd notes for
Drill -- including both the original comments and the responses from Drill
Mentors. If we decide that something about the matter would benefit from
Board attention, we can mention it next month.
People should not take this action as a precedent and expect that filed
reports will be amended in the future. Generally speaking, if it's happening
at the last minute, it can wait until next month's report.
Thanks to Dave for his long record of contributing as a shepherd.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Ted,
OK. I did a look through the dev archives and while quick I really did not see a conversation.
However, on second look I do see it. The list is very active and it was hard to see.
I am rephrasing my shepherds comments.
Thanks,
Dave
On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> Dave,
>
> I would take some issue with your comments here.
>
> If you look at what is happening right now, the entire Drill team is
> focussed on making a release and particularly focussed on getting the IP
> issues right. There have been several release candidates posted and the
> community members have been reviewing these and working through the
> identified issues very systematically. This is the first release of this
> code under Apache guidelines and most of the developers are new to Apache.
> As such, it is hardly surprising that there is a lack of experience in
> getting the form right for IP clearance. The current process is a good
> learning experience and contributors are pitching in whole-heartedly and
> almost all issues have been addressed.
>
> As I pointed out when you asked a question on the mailing list, the lack of
> incubator disclaimer had already been noted, a JIRA filed and a patch
> posted even before you noticed it. I would like to also point out also
> that all of the mentors have been active in reviewing release candidates
> and the mentors were the ones who first raised the IP issues.
>
> I would request that you rephrase or retract the comment "does not seem to
> include any drive to make any release". There is absolutely a drive for a
> release and it is bearing fruit as we write.
>
> We do appreciate your positive comment on our community building efforts.
> We are working *very* hard on that (along with building kick-ass
> technology into kick-ass code packaged up in a kick-ass and fully IP
> cleared release).
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
>> and on most web pages.
>>
>> There is a lot of activity but it does not seem to include any drive to
>> make any release.
>>
>> There is tremendous community building activity.
>>
>> Heavy on community and light on IP clearance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>>
>>> Greets,
>>>
>>> Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
>>>
>>> SHEPHERD PODLING
>>> --------------------------
>>> Alan Cabrera Falcon
>>> Alan Cabrera MetaModel
>>> Alan Cabrera Tajo
>>> Dave Fisher Drill
>>> Dave Fisher S4
>>> Matt Franklin Olingo
>>> Matt Franklin Provisionr
>>> Ross Gardler Wave
>>> Matt Hogstrom Sentry
>>> Benson Marguilies Spark
>>> Suresh Marru Allura
>>> Suresh Marru Samza
>>> Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet
>>> Roman Shaposhnik MRQL
>>> Roman Shaposhnik Streams
>>>
>>> Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday,
>> September 10.
>>> I will collect all of them into a single email and send to
>> general@incubator
>>> after the report is filed.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Dave,
I would take some issue with your comments here.
If you look at what is happening right now, the entire Drill team is
focussed on making a release and particularly focussed on getting the IP
issues right. There have been several release candidates posted and the
community members have been reviewing these and working through the
identified issues very systematically. This is the first release of this
code under Apache guidelines and most of the developers are new to Apache.
As such, it is hardly surprising that there is a lack of experience in
getting the form right for IP clearance. The current process is a good
learning experience and contributors are pitching in whole-heartedly and
almost all issues have been addressed.
As I pointed out when you asked a question on the mailing list, the lack of
incubator disclaimer had already been noted, a JIRA filed and a patch
posted even before you noticed it. I would like to also point out also
that all of the mentors have been active in reviewing release candidates
and the mentors were the ones who first raised the IP issues.
I would request that you rephrase or retract the comment "does not seem to
include any drive to make any release". There is absolutely a drive for a
release and it is bearing fruit as we write.
We do appreciate your positive comment on our community building efforts.
We are working *very* hard on that (along with building kick-ass
technology into kick-ass code packaged up in a kick-ass and fully IP
cleared release).
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
> and on most web pages.
>
> There is a lot of activity but it does not seem to include any drive to
> make any release.
>
> There is tremendous community building activity.
>
> Heavy on community and light on IP clearance.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>
> > Greets,
> >
> > Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
> >
> > SHEPHERD PODLING
> > --------------------------
> > Alan Cabrera Falcon
> > Alan Cabrera MetaModel
> > Alan Cabrera Tajo
> > Dave Fisher Drill
> > Dave Fisher S4
> > Matt Franklin Olingo
> > Matt Franklin Provisionr
> > Ross Gardler Wave
> > Matt Hogstrom Sentry
> > Benson Marguilies Spark
> > Suresh Marru Allura
> > Suresh Marru Samza
> > Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet
> > Roman Shaposhnik MRQL
> > Roman Shaposhnik Streams
> >
> > Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday,
> September 10.
> > I will collect all of them into a single email and send to
> general@incubator
> > after the report is filed.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
>
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[Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code and on most web pages.
There is a lot of activity but it does not seem to include any drive to make any release.
There is tremendous community building activity.
Heavy on community and light on IP clearance.
Regards,
Dave
On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Greets,
>
> Here are shepherd assignments for our September 2013 report:
>
> SHEPHERD PODLING
> --------------------------
> Alan Cabrera Falcon
> Alan Cabrera MetaModel
> Alan Cabrera Tajo
> Dave Fisher Drill
> Dave Fisher S4
> Matt Franklin Olingo
> Matt Franklin Provisionr
> Ross Gardler Wave
> Matt Hogstrom Sentry
> Benson Marguilies Spark
> Suresh Marru Allura
> Suresh Marru Samza
> Roman Shaposhnik Kalumet
> Roman Shaposhnik MRQL
> Roman Shaposhnik Streams
>
> Please add your reports to the wiki by the end of next Tuesday, September 10.
> I will collect all of them into a single email and send to general@incubator
> after the report is filed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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