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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by FaberK <f....@gmail.com> on 2007/08/20 13:15:58 UTC

False positives

Hi,
today I'm receiving spam messages as good ones as follow:
-----
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on ns2.dms.it
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.1 required=5.0 tests=DRUGS_ANXIETY,
	DRUGS_ANXIETY_EREC,DRUGS_ERECTILE,DRUGS_MANYKINDS,DRUGS_MUSCLE,
	DRUGS_SLEEP_EREC,FB_CIALIS_LEO3,INVALID_DATE,LOW_PRICE,ONLINE_PHARMACY,
	PYZOR_CHECK,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_VISIT_PHARMA,URIBL_BLACK,
	URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no
	version=3.2.3
-----
as you can see, they receive -76.1 points, also if they are drugs spam.
Any solutions?
Where I'm wrong?

Thaks to all

-- 
.:FaberK:.

R: False positives

Posted by Giampaolo Tomassoni <g....@libero.it>.
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: FaberK [mailto:f.faberk@gmail.com]
> 
> Hi,
> today I'm receiving spam messages as good ones as follow:
> -----
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on ns2.dms.it
> X-Spam-Level:
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.1 required=5.0 tests=DRUGS_ANXIETY,
> 	DRUGS_ANXIETY_EREC,DRUGS_ERECTILE,DRUGS_MANYKINDS,DRUGS_MUSCLE,
> 	DRUGS_SLEEP_EREC,FB_CIALIS_LEO3,INVALID_DATE,LOW_PRICE,ONLINE_PHA
> RMACY,
> 	PYZOR_CHECK,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_VISIT_PHARMA,URIBL_BLACK
> ,
> 	URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST
> autolearn=no
> 	version=3.2.3
> -----
> as you can see, they receive -76.1 points, also if they are drugs spam.
> Any solutions?
> Where I'm wrong?

What about here?

	USER_IN_WHITELIST

You probably whitelisted the sender. Use whitelist_from_spf or
whitelist_from_rcvd instead of the too broad whitelist_from.

Giampaolo


> 
> Thaks to all
> 
> --
> .:FaberK:.

Re: False positives

Posted by Martin Schütte <li...@mschuette.name>.
FaberK schrieb:
> Where I'm wrong?

>      URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

-- 
Martin

Re: False positives

Posted by FaberK <f....@gmail.com>.
Thanks to all.
;o)

2007/8/20, SM <sm...@resistor.net>:
>
> At 06:48 20-08-2007, FaberK wrote:
> >Into my <http://sendmail.cf>sendmail.cf I got this:
>
> This has nothing to do with sendmail.  The Return-Path: address is
> what gets passed through the SMTP envelope.  Don't whitelist your domain.
>
> Regards,
> -sm
>
>


-- 
.:FaberK:.

Re: False positives

Posted by SM <sm...@resistor.net>.
At 06:48 20-08-2007, FaberK wrote:
>Into my <http://sendmail.cf>sendmail.cf I got this:

This has nothing to do with sendmail.  The Return-Path: address is 
what gets passed through the SMTP envelope.  Don't whitelist your domain.

Regards,
-sm 


Re: False positives

Posted by FaberK <f....@gmail.com>.
Into my sendmail.cf I got this:
----------
#########################
#   Format of headers   #
#########################

H?P?Return-Path: <$g>
HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_)
        $.$?{auth_type}(authenticated$?{auth_ssf} bits=${auth_ssf}$.)
        $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?{tls_version}
        (version=${tls_version} cipher=${cipher} bits=${cipher_bits}
verify=${verify})$.$?u
        for $u; $|;
        $.$b
H?D?Resent-Date: $a
H?D?Date: $a
H?F?Resent-From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$.
H?F?From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$.
H?x?Full-Name: $x
# HPosted-Date: $a
# H?l?Received-Date: $b
H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>
H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>
----------

2007/8/20, FaberK <f....@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
> following your suggestions, I've noticed that those mails got as
>
> Return-Path:
>
> my address that is in whitelist.
> Also, normally the first record in any mail is:
> From:
> but not in this cases.
> More, I'm using Sendmail 8.14.1 Spamassassin 3.2.3
> Thanks
>
> 2007/8/20, Jari Fredriksson <ja...@iki.fi>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > today I'm receiving spam messages as good ones as follow:
> > > -----
> > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08)
> > > on ns2.dms.it X-Spam-Level:
> > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.1 required=5.0
> > > tests=DRUGS_ANXIETY,
> > > DRUGS_ANXIETY_EREC,DRUGS_ERECTILE,DRUGS_MANYKINDS,DRUGS_MUSCLE,
> > >
> > DRUGS_SLEEP_EREC,FB_CIALIS_LEO3,INVALID_DATE,LOW_PRICE,ONLINE_PHARMACY,
> > > PYZOR_CHECK,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_VISIT_PHARMA,URIBL_BLACK,
> > > URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST
> > > autolearn=no version=3.2.3 -----
> > > as you can see, they receive - 76.1 points, also if they
> > > are drugs spam. Any solutions?
> > > Where I'm wrong?
> > >
> > > Thaks to all
> >
> > Don't whitelist your own domain, that's what spammers often use as
> > sender address.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> .:FaberK:.




-- 
.:FaberK:.

Re: False positives

Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, FaberK wrote:

> Hi,
> following your suggestions, I've noticed that those mails got as
> 
> Return-Path:
> 
> my address that is in whitelist.

It is trivially easy for an external mail client to forge the sender
address to make the message appear as if it is coming from your
domain. This is why using whitelist_from is a *last resort*. Remove
your domain from whitelist_from.

The first question to ask is, why do you feel you need to whitelist 
your own domain?

If you want to bypass SA for locally-originated mail for some reason
either:

(1) Tell your MTA to not pass internally-originated email to SA in the 
first place (better), or

(2) Use whitelist_from_rcvd to tell SA that mail from your domain name
originates from your local network space only.

Does that better clarify things?

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Re: False positives

Posted by FaberK <f....@gmail.com>.
Hi,
following your suggestions, I've noticed that those mails got as

Return-Path:

my address that is in whitelist.
Also, normally the first record in any mail is:
From:
but not in this cases.
More, I'm using Sendmail 8.14.1 Spamassassin 3.2.3
Thanks

2007/8/20, Jari Fredriksson <ja...@iki.fi>:
>
> > Hi,
> > today I'm receiving spam messages as good ones as follow:
> > -----
> > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08)
> > on ns2.dms.it X-Spam-Level:
> > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.1 required=5.0
> > tests=DRUGS_ANXIETY,
> > DRUGS_ANXIETY_EREC,DRUGS_ERECTILE,DRUGS_MANYKINDS,DRUGS_MUSCLE,
> > DRUGS_SLEEP_EREC,FB_CIALIS_LEO3,INVALID_DATE,LOW_PRICE,ONLINE_PHARMACY,
> > PYZOR_CHECK,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_VISIT_PHARMA,URIBL_BLACK,
> > URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST
> > autolearn=no version=3.2.3 -----
> > as you can see, they receive -76.1 points, also if they
> > are drugs spam. Any solutions?
> > Where I'm wrong?
> >
> > Thaks to all
>
> Don't whitelist your own domain, that's what spammers often use as sender
> address.
>
>


-- 
.:FaberK:.

Re: False positives

Posted by Jari Fredriksson <ja...@iki.fi>.
> Hi,
> today I'm receiving spam messages as good ones as follow:
> -----
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08)
> on ns2.dms.it X-Spam-Level:
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.1 required=5.0
> tests=DRUGS_ANXIETY,
> DRUGS_ANXIETY_EREC,DRUGS_ERECTILE,DRUGS_MANYKINDS,DRUGS_MUSCLE,
> DRUGS_SLEEP_EREC,FB_CIALIS_LEO3,INVALID_DATE,LOW_PRICE,ONLINE_PHARMACY,
> PYZOR_CHECK,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_VISIT_PHARMA,URIBL_BLACK,
> URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST
> autolearn=no version=3.2.3 -----
> as you can see, they receive -76.1 points, also if they
> are drugs spam. Any solutions?
> Where I'm wrong?
> 
> Thaks to all

Don't whitelist your own domain, that's what spammers often use as sender address.