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Posted to dev@camel.apache.org by Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com> on 2012/06/20 11:31:07 UTC
[DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Hi,
I've been wondering about possibility of running Camel on Android.
>From the technical point of view running embedded Camel router on
Android device is probably possible. And there are many areas in
Android that could serve as a decent source or destination of messages
- Rabbit MQ Android client, Spring REST template, XMPP, GPS, SMS,
Android persistent stores, Android lifecycle events and many more.
Some of existing Camel components will probably work on Android as
well.
The key question is - are there any plans (in Camel community,
FuseSource or whatever) of bringing Camel to the Android? Do you see
any business value of bringing Camel to mobile devices? Playing with
this topic could be very amusing from the architectural and
engineering point of view but I don't want to start researches and
experiments with the subject that seems interesting only for me :) .
--
Henryk Konsek
http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Really interesting ;)
Regards
JB
On 08/10/2012 11:55 PM, Christian Müller wrote:
> Cool. I love it... ;-)
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> This is not my top priority but I'll try to dedicate some time for it.
>>
>> Just for your information. I couldn't resist the temptation :) and
>> I've just started my very first Android router on Android platform. It
>> routes messages from the Timer component and logs them to the Android
>> logger (via our standard Log component).
>>
>> 08-10 22:54:03.773: INFO/CAMEL-ANDROID(403): Exchange[Message: [Body
>> is Hello Android!]]
>> 08-10 22:54:08.764: INFO/CAMEL-ANDROID(403): Exchange[Message: [Body
>> is Hello Android!]]
>>
>> Android SDK version is 3.2.
>>
>> It was not as trivial task as I've been expecting. I needed to hack
>> several things in order to start the router. I'll create a GitHub
>> project with examples and probably a wiki page where I'll document my
>> current (and future) researches in this area.
>>
>> Laters.
>>
>> --
>> Henryk Konsek
>> http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>.
Cool. I love it... ;-)
Best,
Christian
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is not my top priority but I'll try to dedicate some time for it.
>
> Just for your information. I couldn't resist the temptation :) and
> I've just started my very first Android router on Android platform. It
> routes messages from the Timer component and logs them to the Android
> logger (via our standard Log component).
>
> 08-10 22:54:03.773: INFO/CAMEL-ANDROID(403): Exchange[Message: [Body
> is Hello Android!]]
> 08-10 22:54:08.764: INFO/CAMEL-ANDROID(403): Exchange[Message: [Body
> is Hello Android!]]
>
> Android SDK version is 3.2.
>
> It was not as trivial task as I've been expecting. I needed to hack
> several things in order to start the router. I'll create a GitHub
> project with examples and probably a wiki page where I'll document my
> current (and future) researches in this area.
>
> Laters.
>
> --
> Henryk Konsek
> http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
>
--
Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com>.
> This is not my top priority but I'll try to dedicate some time for it.
Just for your information. I couldn't resist the temptation :) and
I've just started my very first Android router on Android platform. It
routes messages from the Timer component and logs them to the Android
logger (via our standard Log component).
08-10 22:54:03.773: INFO/CAMEL-ANDROID(403): Exchange[Message: [Body
is Hello Android!]]
08-10 22:54:08.764: INFO/CAMEL-ANDROID(403): Exchange[Message: [Body
is Hello Android!]]
Android SDK version is 3.2.
It was not as trivial task as I've been expecting. I needed to hack
several things in order to start the router. I'll create a GitHub
project with examples and probably a wiki page where I'll document my
current (and future) researches in this area.
Laters.
--
Henryk Konsek
http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com>.
> Actually there's gonna be a lot of work. There are a bunch of issues, the
> threading model being the critical one, I think.
In my spare time I will create GitHub project with some Proof Of
Concepts and wiki page where we could summarize the current state of
research regarding this topic. It will be nice to have it in one
place.
This is not my top priority but I'll try to dedicate some time for it.
--
Henryk Konsek
http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Actually there's gonna be a lot of work. There are a bunch of issues,
the threading model being the critical one, I think.
Hadrian
On 06/20/2012 09:04 PM, Willem Jiang wrote:
> Yeah, it's a interesting topic.
> I know lots of third part libs which camel use are support Android.
>
> As Camel can run without Spring, I think we will not do much work to let
> the core run within Android.
>
>
> On Wed Jun 20 22:41:36 2012, Henryk Konsek wrote:
>>> I don't think there's much we can do for
>>> camel 2.x, but it is one of my secret goals to have a camel-3.0 that
>>> runs
>>> embedded. I hope we'll talk more about this in the coming months.
>>
>> I think it's pretty interesting topic. Maybe we could create wiki page
>> where we will gather the current status of making Camel
>> Android-runnable? At the beginning we could note there what are the
>> problems with Camel on Android. Then we could think about possible
>> solutions.
>>
>> I was tempted to look closer at this topic, but I don't want to
>> reinvent the wheel :) .
>>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, it's a interesting topic.
I know lots of third part libs which camel use are support Android.
As Camel can run without Spring, I think we will not do much work to let
the core run within Android.
On Wed Jun 20 22:41:36 2012, Henryk Konsek wrote:
>> I don't think there's much we can do for
>> camel 2.x, but it is one of my secret goals to have a camel-3.0 that runs
>> embedded. I hope we'll talk more about this in the coming months.
>
> I think it's pretty interesting topic. Maybe we could create wiki page
> where we will gather the current status of making Camel
> Android-runnable? At the beginning we could note there what are the
> problems with Camel on Android. Then we could think about possible
> solutions.
>
> I was tempted to look closer at this topic, but I don't want to
> reinvent the wheel :) .
>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com>.
> I don't think there's much we can do for
> camel 2.x, but it is one of my secret goals to have a camel-3.0 that runs
> embedded. I hope we'll talk more about this in the coming months.
I think it's pretty interesting topic. Maybe we could create wiki page
where we will gather the current status of making Camel
Android-runnable? At the beginning we could note there what are the
problems with Camel on Android. Then we could think about possible
solutions.
I was tempted to look closer at this topic, but I don't want to
reinvent the wheel :) .
--
Henryk Konsek
http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] Camel on Android?
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Yes Henryk. Camel as of now does not run well (if at all) on embedded
devices for a number of reasons. I don't think there's much we can do
for camel 2.x, but it is one of my secret goals to have a camel-3.0 that
runs embedded. I hope we'll talk more about this in the coming months.
Hadrian
On 06/20/2012 05:31 AM, Henryk Konsek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been wondering about possibility of running Camel on Android.
> From the technical point of view running embedded Camel router on
> Android device is probably possible. And there are many areas in
> Android that could serve as a decent source or destination of messages
> - Rabbit MQ Android client, Spring REST template, XMPP, GPS, SMS,
> Android persistent stores, Android lifecycle events and many more.
> Some of existing Camel components will probably work on Android as
> well.
>
> The key question is - are there any plans (in Camel community,
> FuseSource or whatever) of bringing Camel to the Android? Do you see
> any business value of bringing Camel to mobile devices? Playing with
> this topic could be very amusing from the architectural and
> engineering point of view but I don't want to start researches and
> experiments with the subject that seems interesting only for me :) .
>