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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start modifying
>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>
>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>
>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the same
>>> as AOO.
>>>
>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then I
>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above proposal.
>>>
>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>
>> Juergen
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
> later if needed.
>
I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
Best regards,
Carl
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 4/15/13 3:36 PM, janI wrote:
> On 15 April 2013 15:31, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/13 2:12 PM, janI wrote:
>>> On 15 April 2013 11:22, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/15/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote:
>>>>> On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Juergen,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Carl,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same
>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within
>> 72-hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand
>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't
>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my
>>>> pov.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision
>> number
>>>>>>>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be
>>>> incompatible
>>>>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to
>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible
>>>> plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be
>> some
>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs
>> have
>>>>>>>>> changed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
>>>>>>> 3.4.1x branch ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
>>>>>> version numbers (that I know of).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
>>>>>> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was
>>>> Netbeans
>>>>>> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
>>>>>> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to
>>>> do
>>>>>> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and
>> keep a
>>>>>> compatibility table somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I
>> do
>>>>> have some opinion on the version numbering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As
>>>> far
>>>>> as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If
>> I
>>>>> install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume
>>>> that
>>>>> I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules
>>>> in
>>>>> main get version 4.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be
>> in
>>>>> main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0,
>>>> and
>>>>> then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of
>>>> netbeans,
>>>>> just because it is included.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
>>>>> about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
>>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> The NetBeans plugin is a developer tool that uses OpenOffice and SDK and
>>>> depends on a specific version in the future but it can be seen as
>>>> independent and ideally we would bring it back in the plugin center of
>>>> Netbeans directly.
>>>>
>>>> The plugin don't comes with the office and is not part of the source
>>>> release.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought the source release was the full main ??
>>
>> yes, it is but the NetBeans plugin is not in main ;-)
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/netbeansintegration/
>>
> hmmm, what is
>
> main/scripting/java/org/openoffice/netbeans
>
> then, I thought that was the plugin, that contains both an editor and
> modules.
>
> or do we have some kind of unwanted mixture ?
no everything is as expected. What you have found in main is the
beanshell scripting stuff that make use of a NetBeans editor when I
remember correctly.
Juergen
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Where can I find the script that generates the source release ?
>>
>> solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml triggered in instset_native/util on demand, no
>> default target
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan i.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to
>>>> make
>>>>>>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will
>> not
>>>>>>> avalible with 4.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and
>> we
>>>>>> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
>>>>>> established break point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules
>>>> (like
>>>>> gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete.
>>>> But
>>>>> I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have
>> the
>>>>> pain of merging it later.
>>>>>
>>>>> rgds
>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rgds
>>>>>>> jan I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 15 April 2013 15:31, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/15/13 2:12 PM, janI wrote:
> > On 15 April 2013 11:22, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/15/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote:
> >>> On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jan,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Juergen,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Carl,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
> >>>>>>>>>>> modifying
> >>>>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same
> >> time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>>>>> as AOO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within
> 72-hours
> >>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
> >>>>>>>>>>> proposal.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand
> for
> >>>>>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't
> see
> >>>>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my
> >> pov.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision
> number
> >>>>>>>>> later if needed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be
> >> incompatible
> >>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to
> >> make
> >>>>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible
> >> plugins.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be
> some
> >>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs
> have
> >>>>>>> changed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
> >>>>> 3.4.1x branch ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
> >>>> version numbers (that I know of).
> >>>>
> >>>> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
> >>>> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was
> >> Netbeans
> >>>> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
> >>>> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to
> >> do
> >>>> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and
> keep a
> >>>> compatibility table somewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I
> do
> >>> have some opinion on the version numbering.
> >>>
> >>> Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As
> >> far
> >>> as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If
> I
> >>> install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume
> >> that
> >>> I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules
> >> in
> >>> main get version 4.0.
> >>>
> >>> If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be
> in
> >>> main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0,
> >> and
> >>> then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of
> >> netbeans,
> >>> just because it is included.
> >>>
> >>> Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
> >>> about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
> >>> possible.
> >>
> >> The NetBeans plugin is a developer tool that uses OpenOffice and SDK and
> >> depends on a specific version in the future but it can be seen as
> >> independent and ideally we would bring it back in the plugin center of
> >> Netbeans directly.
> >>
> >> The plugin don't comes with the office and is not part of the source
> >> release.
> >>
> >
> > I thought the source release was the full main ??
>
> yes, it is but the NetBeans plugin is not in main ;-)
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/netbeansintegration/
>
hmmm, what is
main/scripting/java/org/openoffice/netbeans
then, I thought that was the plugin, that contains both an editor and
modules.
or do we have some kind of unwanted mixture ?
rgds
jan I.
>
> >
> > Where can I find the script that generates the source release ?
>
> solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml triggered in instset_native/util on demand, no
> default target
>
> Juergen
>
>
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to
> >> make
> >>>>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will
> not
> >>>>> avalible with 4.0.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and
> we
> >>>> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
> >>>> established break point.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules
> >> (like
> >>> gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete.
> >> But
> >>> I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have
> the
> >>> pain of merging it later.
> >>>
> >>> rgds
> >>> Jan I.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> rgds
> >>>>> jan I.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Carl
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 4/15/13 2:12 PM, janI wrote:
> On 15 April 2013 11:22, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote:
>>> On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Juergen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Carl,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same
>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my
>> pov.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>>>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be
>> incompatible
>>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to
>> make
>>>>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible
>> plugins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>>>>>>> changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
>>>>> 3.4.1x branch ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
>>>> version numbers (that I know of).
>>>>
>>>> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
>>>> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was
>> Netbeans
>>>> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
>>>> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to
>> do
>>>> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and keep a
>>>> compatibility table somewhere.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I do
>>> have some opinion on the version numbering.
>>>
>>> Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As
>> far
>>> as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If I
>>> install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume
>> that
>>> I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules
>> in
>>> main get version 4.0.
>>>
>>> If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be in
>>> main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0,
>> and
>>> then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of
>> netbeans,
>>> just because it is included.
>>>
>>> Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
>>> about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
>>> possible.
>>
>> The NetBeans plugin is a developer tool that uses OpenOffice and SDK and
>> depends on a specific version in the future but it can be seen as
>> independent and ideally we would bring it back in the plugin center of
>> Netbeans directly.
>>
>> The plugin don't comes with the office and is not part of the source
>> release.
>>
>
> I thought the source release was the full main ??
yes, it is but the NetBeans plugin is not in main ;-)
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/netbeansintegration/
>
> Where can I find the script that generates the source release ?
solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml triggered in instset_native/util on demand, no
default target
Juergen
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
>
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to
>> make
>>>>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
>>>>> avalible with 4.0.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
>>>> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
>>>> established break point.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules
>> (like
>>> gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete.
>> But
>>> I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have the
>>> pain of merging it later.
>>>
>>> rgds
>>> Jan I.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> rgds
>>>>> jan I.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 15 April 2013 11:22, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/15/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote:
> > On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jan,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Juergen,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Carl,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
> >>>>>>>>> modifying
> >>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same
> time.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number
> the
> >>>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>>> as AOO.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours
> >>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
> >>>>>>>>> proposal.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for
> >>>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
> >>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my
> pov.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
> >>>>>>> later if needed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be
> incompatible
> >>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to
> make
> >>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible
> plugins.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some
> >>>>> work
> >>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
> >>>>> changed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
> >>> 3.4.1x branch ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
> >> version numbers (that I know of).
> >>
> >> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
> >> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was
> Netbeans
> >> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
> >> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to
> do
> >> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and keep a
> >> compatibility table somewhere.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I do
> > have some opinion on the version numbering.
> >
> > Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As
> far
> > as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If I
> > install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume
> that
> > I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules
> in
> > main get version 4.0.
> >
> > If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be in
> > main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0,
> and
> > then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of
> netbeans,
> > just because it is included.
> >
> > Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
> > about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
> > possible.
>
> The NetBeans plugin is a developer tool that uses OpenOffice and SDK and
> depends on a specific version in the future but it can be seen as
> independent and ideally we would bring it back in the plugin center of
> Netbeans directly.
>
> The plugin don't comes with the office and is not part of the source
> release.
>
I thought the source release was the full main ??
Where can I find the script that generates the source release ?
rgds
jan i.
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to
> make
> >>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
> >>> avalible with 4.0.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
> >> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
> >> established break point.
> >>
> >
> > To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules
> (like
> > gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete.
> But
> > I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have the
> > pain of merging it later.
> >
> > rgds
> > Jan I.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> rgds
> >>> jan I.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 4/15/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote:
> On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>>
>> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Juergen,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Carl,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some
>>>>> work
>>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>>>>> changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
>>> 3.4.1x branch ?
>>>
>>>
>> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
>> version numbers (that I know of).
>>
>> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
>> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was Netbeans
>> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
>> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to do
>> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and keep a
>> compatibility table somewhere.
>>
>
> Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I do
> have some opinion on the version numbering.
>
> Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As far
> as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If I
> install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume that
> I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules in
> main get version 4.0.
>
> If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be in
> main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0, and
> then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of netbeans,
> just because it is included.
>
> Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
> about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
> possible.
The NetBeans plugin is a developer tool that uses OpenOffice and SDK and
depends on a specific version in the future but it can be seen as
independent and ideally we would bring it back in the plugin center of
Netbeans directly.
The plugin don't comes with the office and is not part of the source
release.
Juergen
>
>
>>
>> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to make
>>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
>>> avalible with 4.0.
>>>
>>
>> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
>> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
>> established break point.
>>
>
> To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules (like
> gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete. But
> I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have the
> pain of merging it later.
>
> rgds
> Jan I.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan I.
>>>
>>>
>> Best regards,
>> Carl
>>
>>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
>
> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
>
>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Juergen,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>
>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some
>>>> work
>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>>>> changed.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>>
>>>
>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
>> 3.4.1x branch ?
>>
>>
> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
> version numbers (that I know of).
>
> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was Netbeans
> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
>
> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to do
> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and keep a
> compatibility table somewhere.
>
Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I do
have some opinion on the version numbering.
Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As far
as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If I
install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume that
I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules in
main get version 4.0.
If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be in
main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0, and
then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of netbeans,
just because it is included.
Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
possible.
>
> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to make
>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
>> avalible with 4.0.
>>
>
> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
> established break point.
>
To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules (like
gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete. But
I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have the
pain of merging it later.
rgds
Jan I.
>
>
>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
> Best regards,
> Carl
>
>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>.
Hi Jan,
On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Juergen,
>>
>>
>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>
>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some work
>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>>> changed.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>
>
> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
> 3.4.1x branch ?
>
The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
version numbers (that I know of).
When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was
Netbeans 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some
additional localization work took it to 3.0.2.
I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to
do a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and
keep a compatibility table somewhere.
> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to make
> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
> avalible with 4.0.
I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
established break point.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
Best regards,
Carl
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>.
Hi Jan,
On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Juergen,
>>
>>
>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>
>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some work
>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>>> changed.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>
>
> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
> 3.4.1x branch ?
>
The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
version numbers (that I know of).
When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was
Netbeans 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some
additional localization work took it to 3.0.2.
I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to
do a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and
keep a compatibility table somewhere.
> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to make
> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
> avalible with 4.0.
I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
established break point.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
Best regards,
Carl
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Juergen,
>
>
> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>
>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>> later if needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some work
>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>> changed.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>>
>>>
> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>
How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
3.4.1x branch ?
I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to make
it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
avalible with 4.0.
rgds
jan I.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and
begin 4.0 trunk
Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 20:25 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> Hi Juergen,
>
> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> >
> > > On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> > > > On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> > > > > Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start modifying
> > > > > > trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the same
> > > > > > as AOO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then I
> > > > > > will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above proposal.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
> > > > > You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
> > > > > many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
> > > > >
> > > > > Juergen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Carl
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
> > > > later if needed.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
> > > with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
> > > it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some work to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have changed.
> >
> > Juergen
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
yes that is the plan, 4.0 is the best time for it.
Juergen
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and begin
4.0 trunk
Posted by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>.
Hi Juergen,
On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>
>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start modifying
>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the same
>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then I
>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>> later if needed.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>
>>
>
> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some work to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have changed.
>
> Juergen
>>
Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
Thanks,
Carl
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Re: [DEVTOOLS] [PROPOSAL] branch Netbeans plugin for 3.0 and
begin 4.0 trunk
Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
Hi Carl,
Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> > On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> > > Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start modifying
> > > > trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
> > > >
> > > > Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the same
> > > > as AOO.
> > > >
> > > > If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then I
> > > > will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above proposal.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for it.
> > > You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
> > > many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
> > >
> > > Juergen
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
> > later if needed.
> >
>
>
> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>
>
I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some work to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have changed.
Juergen
>
> Best regards,
> Carl
>
>
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