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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de> on 2013/10/02 12:12:53 UTC
Usage of Adobe Scout
Hi Gyus :)
Today I have a question.
In one of my last Flex projects I am experiencing some performance issues. The amount of data being processed by the client has increased by a factor of about 10 and now I am having some major usability problems. In order to track them down, I got my hands on the 30 Day trial of Adobe Scout as part the Adobe Creative Cloud suite. I even managed to get my application to display data in Scout by using the "Scout Enabler" Tool (http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-swfs-with-swf-scount-enabler/)
Just a short side-question here ... do I have to only enable advanced telemetry for my loader applications swf or do I have to enable it for all loaded modules and rsls too?
Now when looking at Scout I can see a lot of data, a liitle information about where how much time is used. But as soon as I really want to see where the performance problems are, I seem to be unable to see anything. The AvtivitySequence shows me that 98% of the time is used in "enterFrame" and as soon as I expand that, I can see loads of stuff, but all has about 0% of these 98% ... looking though the list, there doesn't seem to be anything causing my problems.
Is there any tutorial about how to track down Performance issues using Scout?
Chris
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> In the RELEASE_NOTES, I dont see the actual compiler option to be added.
> Will just adding " -advanced-telemetry" to compiler options enable Scout
> profiling capability to Apache Flex 4.10 apps?
Yes or -advanced-telemetry=true.
It can also be specified in the flex config file and also be set from the ant task.
Thanks,
justin
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Not many people seem to know this. Is there any documentation out there
> on
> > how to enable advanced telemetry with Apache Flex 4.10?
> It's in the release notes, but other than that none I'm aware of.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
In the RELEASE_NOTES, I dont see the actual compiler option to be added.
Will just adding " -advanced-telemetry" to compiler options enable Scout
profiling capability to Apache Flex 4.10 apps?
Thanks,
Om
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Not many people seem to know this. Is there any documentation out there on
> how to enable advanced telemetry with Apache Flex 4.10?
It's in the release notes, but other than that none I'm aware of.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apache Flex 4.10 supports advanced telemetry, there's no need to use any
> script and/or air app to enable advanced telemetry.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
Justin,
Not many people seem to know this. Is there any documentation out there on
how to enable advanced telemetry with Apache Flex 4.10?
Thanks,
Om
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Apache Flex 4.10 supports advanced telemetry, there's no need to use any script and/or air app to enable advanced telemetry.
Thanks,
Justin
AW: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Marcus,
well I used the little Air app to enable the advanced telemetry for my SWFs and it seems that they are now sending data to Scout. I am sort of currently struggling to find out how to actually use Scout to track down the problem as this tool really seems to work differently than Java Profilers such as JProfiler for example. But I think I found out some more cause after enabling the "CPU Usage" I am now actually getting some more information that is helping me.
But to understand you right: In a multi-module application you need to enable every single SWF?
Chris
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Marcus Wilkinson [mailto:wilkinsonmarcus@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Oktober 2013 12:25
An: users@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Hey Chris,
We use Scout here and in my opinion it's possibly the best thing to come out of adobe since Director :). In order to get the most out of it for your application you need to enable telemetry on each running swf. This method is not recommended, but it works for us:
- Build our AIR application as normal (which includes runtime-loaded swf modules). This can be in release mode to give better representation of bottlenecks
- Install the AIR app as normal
- Run this python script on each .swf (I use python 2.7 and no
dependencies):
https://github.com/adamcath/telemetry-utils/blob/master/add-opt-in.py
To run the script, i made another little script which looks for swfs in a specified path and runs the script from there. Both the following and the add-opt-in.py need to be in the same place (in my case C:\Python27\Scripts)
#script start
import inspect, os, subprocess
base_path = "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\InstalledApp\\"
current_path =
os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(inspect.getfile(inspect.currentframe())))
script_path = current_path + "\\add-opt-in.py"
print(script_path)
print "Base path set to "+base_path
for dirname, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(base_path):
for filename in filenames:
filename_parts = os.path.splitext(filename) if filename_parts[len(filename_parts)-1].lower() == ".swf":
swf_path = os.path.join(dirname, filename) print "Processing "+swf_path subprocess.call(["python", script_path,swf_path]) #script end
I think I remember reading somewhere that Apache flex mxmlc now includes telemetry options out of the box, but I haven't played with it yet.
Hope this helps
Marcus
On 2 October 2013 11:12, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de < christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Hi Gyus :)
>
> Today I have a question.
>
> In one of my last Flex projects I am experiencing some performance issues.
> The amount of data being processed by the client has increased by a
> factor of about 10 and now I am having some major usability problems.
> In order to track them down, I got my hands on the 30 Day trial of
> Adobe Scout as part the Adobe Creative Cloud suite. I even managed to
> get my application to display data in Scout by using the "Scout
> Enabler" Tool (
> http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-ol
> d-swfs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
> )
>
> Just a short side-question here ... do I have to only enable advanced
> telemetry for my loader applications swf or do I have to enable it for
> all loaded modules and rsls too?
>
> Now when looking at Scout I can see a lot of data, a liitle
> information about where how much time is used. But as soon as I really
> want to see where the performance problems are, I seem to be unable to see anything.
> The AvtivitySequence shows me that 98% of the time is used in "enterFrame"
> and as soon as I expand that, I can see loads of stuff, but all has
> about 0% of these 98% ... looking though the list, there doesn't seem
> to be anything causing my problems.
>
> Is there any tutorial about how to track down Performance issues using
> Scout?
>
> Chris
>
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by Marcus Wilkinson <wi...@gmail.com>.
Chris,
Yes, every executed .swf needs to emit telemetry data for scout to pick up
on it. Just enabling telemetry on the parent one is not enough.
On 2 October 2013 11:32, Mark Line <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you drilled down fully to see the last item which is taking up the
> high
> percentage? Perhaps telemetry isn't working correctly?
>
> I use the python script as well.
>
> Here is a screen shot of what I expect you should see:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9000077/scoutexample.png
>
> PS adobe scout is free, you can keep using after the 30 day trail of
> creative cloud, the other things you may have install won't work though
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Wilkinson [mailto:wilkinsonmarcus@gmail.com]
> Sent: 02 October 2013 11:25
> To: users@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> We use Scout here and in my opinion it's possibly the best thing to come
> out
> of adobe since Director :). In order to get the most out of it for your
> application you need to enable telemetry on each running swf. This method
> is
> not recommended, but it works for us:
> - Build our AIR application as normal (which includes runtime-loaded swf
> modules). This can be in release mode to give better representation of
> bottlenecks
> - Install the AIR app as normal
> - Run this python script on each .swf (I use python 2.7 and no
> dependencies):
> https://github.com/adamcath/telemetry-utils/blob/master/add-opt-in.py
>
> To run the script, i made another little script which looks for swfs in a
> specified path and runs the script from there. Both the following and the
> add-opt-in.py need to be in the same place (in my case C:\Python27\Scripts)
>
>
> #script start
> import inspect, os, subprocess
>
> base_path = "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\InstalledApp\\"
>
> current_path =
> os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(inspect.getfile(inspect.currentframe())))
> script_path = current_path + "\\add-opt-in.py"
> print(script_path)
> print "Base path set to "+base_path
>
> for dirname, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(base_path):
> for filename in filenames:
> filename_parts = os.path.splitext(filename) if
> filename_parts[len(filename_parts)-1].lower() == ".swf":
> swf_path = os.path.join(dirname, filename) print "Processing "+swf_path
> subprocess.call(["python", script_path,swf_path]) #script end
>
> I think I remember reading somewhere that Apache flex mxmlc now includes
> telemetry options out of the box, but I haven't played with it yet.
>
> Hope this helps
> Marcus
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 11:12, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
> christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gyus :)
> >
> > Today I have a question.
> >
> > In one of my last Flex projects I am experiencing some performance
> issues.
> > The amount of data being processed by the client has increased by a
> > factor of about 10 and now I am having some major usability problems.
> > In order to track them down, I got my hands on the 30 Day trial of
> > Adobe Scout as part the Adobe Creative Cloud suite. I even managed to
> > get my application to display data in Scout by using the "Scout
> > Enabler" Tool (
> > http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-ol
> > d-swfs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
> > )
> >
> > Just a short side-question here ... do I have to only enable advanced
> > telemetry for my loader applications swf or do I have to enable it for
> > all loaded modules and rsls too?
> >
> > Now when looking at Scout I can see a lot of data, a liitle
> > information about where how much time is used. But as soon as I really
> > want to see where the performance problems are, I seem to be unable to
> see
> anything.
> > The AvtivitySequence shows me that 98% of the time is used in
> "enterFrame"
> > and as soon as I expand that, I can see loads of stuff, but all has
> > about 0% of these 98% ... looking though the list, there doesn't seem
> > to be anything causing my problems.
> >
> > Is there any tutorial about how to track down Performance issues using
> > Scout?
> >
> > Chris
> >
>
>
RE: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by Mark Line <ma...@gmail.com>.
Have you drilled down fully to see the last item which is taking up the high
percentage? Perhaps telemetry isn't working correctly?
I use the python script as well.
Here is a screen shot of what I expect you should see:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9000077/scoutexample.png
PS adobe scout is free, you can keep using after the 30 day trail of
creative cloud, the other things you may have install won't work though
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Wilkinson [mailto:wilkinsonmarcus@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 October 2013 11:25
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Hey Chris,
We use Scout here and in my opinion it's possibly the best thing to come out
of adobe since Director :). In order to get the most out of it for your
application you need to enable telemetry on each running swf. This method is
not recommended, but it works for us:
- Build our AIR application as normal (which includes runtime-loaded swf
modules). This can be in release mode to give better representation of
bottlenecks
- Install the AIR app as normal
- Run this python script on each .swf (I use python 2.7 and no
dependencies):
https://github.com/adamcath/telemetry-utils/blob/master/add-opt-in.py
To run the script, i made another little script which looks for swfs in a
specified path and runs the script from there. Both the following and the
add-opt-in.py need to be in the same place (in my case C:\Python27\Scripts)
#script start
import inspect, os, subprocess
base_path = "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\InstalledApp\\"
current_path =
os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(inspect.getfile(inspect.currentframe())))
script_path = current_path + "\\add-opt-in.py"
print(script_path)
print "Base path set to "+base_path
for dirname, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(base_path):
for filename in filenames:
filename_parts = os.path.splitext(filename) if
filename_parts[len(filename_parts)-1].lower() == ".swf":
swf_path = os.path.join(dirname, filename) print "Processing "+swf_path
subprocess.call(["python", script_path,swf_path]) #script end
I think I remember reading somewhere that Apache flex mxmlc now includes
telemetry options out of the box, but I haven't played with it yet.
Hope this helps
Marcus
On 2 October 2013 11:12, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Hi Gyus :)
>
> Today I have a question.
>
> In one of my last Flex projects I am experiencing some performance issues.
> The amount of data being processed by the client has increased by a
> factor of about 10 and now I am having some major usability problems.
> In order to track them down, I got my hands on the 30 Day trial of
> Adobe Scout as part the Adobe Creative Cloud suite. I even managed to
> get my application to display data in Scout by using the "Scout
> Enabler" Tool (
> http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-ol
> d-swfs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
> )
>
> Just a short side-question here ... do I have to only enable advanced
> telemetry for my loader applications swf or do I have to enable it for
> all loaded modules and rsls too?
>
> Now when looking at Scout I can see a lot of data, a liitle
> information about where how much time is used. But as soon as I really
> want to see where the performance problems are, I seem to be unable to see
anything.
> The AvtivitySequence shows me that 98% of the time is used in "enterFrame"
> and as soon as I expand that, I can see loads of stuff, but all has
> about 0% of these 98% ... looking though the list, there doesn't seem
> to be anything causing my problems.
>
> Is there any tutorial about how to track down Performance issues using
> Scout?
>
> Chris
>
Re: Usage of Adobe Scout
Posted by Marcus Wilkinson <wi...@gmail.com>.
Hey Chris,
We use Scout here and in my opinion it's possibly the best thing to come
out of adobe since Director :). In order to get the most out of it for your
application you need to enable telemetry on each running swf. This method
is not recommended, but it works for us:
- Build our AIR application as normal (which includes runtime-loaded swf
modules). This can be in release mode to give better representation of
bottlenecks
- Install the AIR app as normal
- Run this python script on each .swf (I use python 2.7 and no
dependencies):
https://github.com/adamcath/telemetry-utils/blob/master/add-opt-in.py
To run the script, i made another little script which looks for swfs in a
specified path and runs the script from there. Both the following and the
add-opt-in.py need to be in the same place (in my case C:\Python27\Scripts)
#script start
import inspect, os, subprocess
base_path = "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\InstalledApp\\"
current_path =
os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(inspect.getfile(inspect.currentframe())))
script_path = current_path + "\\add-opt-in.py"
print(script_path)
print "Base path set to "+base_path
for dirname, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(base_path):
for filename in filenames:
filename_parts = os.path.splitext(filename)
if filename_parts[len(filename_parts)-1].lower() == ".swf":
swf_path = os.path.join(dirname, filename)
print "Processing "+swf_path
subprocess.call(["python", script_path,swf_path])
#script end
I think I remember reading somewhere that Apache flex mxmlc now includes
telemetry options out of the box, but I haven't played with it yet.
Hope this helps
Marcus
On 2 October 2013 11:12, christofer.dutz@c-ware.de <
christofer.dutz@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Hi Gyus :)
>
> Today I have a question.
>
> In one of my last Flex projects I am experiencing some performance issues.
> The amount of data being processed by the client has increased by a factor
> of about 10 and now I am having some major usability problems. In order to
> track them down, I got my hands on the 30 Day trial of Adobe Scout as part
> the Adobe Creative Cloud suite. I even managed to get my application to
> display data in Scout by using the "Scout Enabler" Tool (
> http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-swfs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
> )
>
> Just a short side-question here ... do I have to only enable advanced
> telemetry for my loader applications swf or do I have to enable it for all
> loaded modules and rsls too?
>
> Now when looking at Scout I can see a lot of data, a liitle information
> about where how much time is used. But as soon as I really want to see
> where the performance problems are, I seem to be unable to see anything.
> The AvtivitySequence shows me that 98% of the time is used in "enterFrame"
> and as soon as I expand that, I can see loads of stuff, but all has about
> 0% of these 98% ... looking though the list, there doesn't seem to be
> anything causing my problems.
>
> Is there any tutorial about how to track down Performance issues using
> Scout?
>
> Chris
>