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[users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having access to my apache
server through the ip address
Dear Sirs / Madams,
I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any other
necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the web and
letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by putting my ip
address.
I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have
support and I received zero responses from the router's support service. I
think I have added a port in my router's menu but still internet users do
not have access on it.
I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with
mapserver and few other mapping tools.
My router is the technicolor td5130.
Could anyone provide some feedback please?
Thank you.
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Re: [users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having access
to my apache server through the ip address
Posted by angel Hall-Coulston <ra...@me.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
Also be very careful that you are not breaching the Terms of your ISP. They for obvious reasons don’t allow just anybody to serve websites or other files…. You have to have permission as they WILL find you out and if it’s against terms, they could block you…
It’s ALWAYS best to have a static IP assigned for stability…
Don’t want to be a spoilsport, just giving fair warning !
> On 11 Jan 2019, at 22:19, John <jo...@iliffe.ca> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure about your configuration so this might be irrelevant, but try looking at all the moving parts here.
>
> For example, since your IP is dynamic, how are you doing address resolution on the Internet? Does your
> address resolver have the correct real address? Try pinging yourself.
>
> If that works, then see where the router is sending port 80. The internal router is probably a NAT arrangement,
> so check that the port 80 destination setting is for your server machine. (ie, suppose you are at Inet address
> 205.100.1.1, and that you can really ping this address. Where does the router send port 80 to?) It should
> be something like 192.168.1.xxx. Is this your local server's address? If DHCP it could easily change periodically.
> If so. make the internal address static.
>
> If your actual firewall doesn't support static NAT addresses, you can usually force the issue by giving the server
> a static address that it will always use to connect.
>
> If all that works, then look at the firewall router's log. Most of them retain a log of connections and failed
> connections. See if your attempt to connect actually made it to your firewall and how it disposed of it, One
> comment, these logs are about as arcane as anything I have ever seen!
>
> Be careful, when you change settings you can make a real mess if you guess wrong! Be sure you know what
> you did so you can back out without having to re-initialize.
>
> Just as a last desperate idea, when you make a firewall/router change, power cycle it, just in case the change
> didn't get picked up.
>
> After that, sorry, off of ideas.
>
> John
> =================================
> On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 14:23 -0700, Jonathon Koyle wrote:
>> The only other suggestions I have are to Verify that your server is accessible from another machine, not blocked by a firewall or only listening on loopback. It isn't likely to be an ISP issue unless they try to restrict you from serving a website...
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 13:54 Stathis G. Arapostathis <e.arapostathis@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> well, i have a dynamic ip but this is not my problem. I also portforwarded port 80 before sending current question but I still do not have access.
>>>
>>> There are some years passed since the last time I port-forwarded apache server and I thought that maybe some additional modifications from apache-server side are needed as the updates pass through time.
>>>
>>> I guess I have to contact my ISP again, it could be an ISP issue.
>>> thank you very much for the quick responses.
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> You may also need to look into whether you have a static or dynamic IP address. Many Consumer ISP packages provide dynamic, so the public IP address changes periodically, often a day or two in my experience. Also note this won't be the IP address of your host machine, but the IP assigned to the router.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:14 AM John <john.iliffe@iliffe.ca <ma...@iliffe.ca>> wrote:
>>>>> Start here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/ <https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/>
>>>>>
>>>>> What you need to do is open port 80 (unencrypted http), that is, Internet browsers. Be sure
>>>>> you have appropriate security because you are putting your machine in a hostile environment!
>>>>> If you don't believe that, look at your log after a few days on the 'net!
>>>>>
>>>>> If you plan to encrypt your pages, you will also need port 443 open (HTTPS).
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>> ========================================
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 20:04 +0200, Stathis G. Arapostathis wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Sirs / Madams,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any other necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the web and letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by putting my ip address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have support and I received zero responses from the router's support service. I think I have added a port in my router's menu but still internet users do not have access on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with mapserver and few other mapping tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My router is the technicolor td5130.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could anyone provide some feedback please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having
access to my apache server through the ip address
Posted by John <jo...@iliffe.ca>.
I'm not sure about your configuration so this might be irrelevant, but try
looking at all the moving parts here.
For example, since your IP is dynamic, how are you doing address resolution on
the Internet? Does your address resolver have the correct real address? Try
pinging yourself.
If that works, then see where the router is sending port 80. The internal
router is probably a NAT arrangement, so check that the port 80 destination
setting is for your server machine. (ie, suppose you are at Inet
address 205.100.1.1, and that you can really ping this address. Where does the
router send port 80 to?) It should be something like 192.168.1.xxx. Is this
your local server's address? If DHCP it could easily change periodically.If so.
make the internal address static.
If your actual firewall doesn't support static NAT addresses, you can usually
force the issue by giving the server a static address that it will always use to
connect.
If all that works, then look at the firewall router's log. Most of them retain
a log of connections and failed connections. See if your attempt to connect
actually made it to your firewall and how it disposed of it, One comment, these
logs are about as arcane as anything I have ever seen!
Be careful, when you change settings you can make a real mess if you guess
wrong! Be sure you know what you did so you can back out without having to re-
initialize.
Just as a last desperate idea, when you make a firewall/router change, power
cycle it, just in case the change didn't get picked up.
After that, sorry, off of ideas.
John=================================On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 14:23 -0700, Jonathon
Koyle wrote:
> The only other suggestions I have are to Verify that your server is accessible
> from another machine, not blocked by a firewall or only listening on
> loopback. It isn't likely to be an ISP issue unless they try to restrict you
> from serving a website...
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 13:54 Stathis G. Arapostathis <e.arapostathis@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > well, i have a dynamic ip but this is not my problem. I also portforwarded
> > port 80 before sending current question but I still do not have access.
> > There are some years passed since the last time I port-forwarded apache
> > server and I thought that maybe some additional modifications from apache-
> > server side are needed as the updates pass through time.
> >
> > I guess I have to contact my ISP again, it could be an ISP issue.
> > thank you very much for the quick responses.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Virus-free. www.avast.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > You may also need to look into whether you have a static or dynamic IP
> > > address. Many Consumer ISP packages provide dynamic, so the public IP
> > > address changes periodically, often a day or two in my experience. Also
> > > note this won't be the IP address of your host machine, but the IP
> > > assigned to the router.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:14 AM John <jo...@iliffe.ca> wrote:
> > > > Start here:
> > > > https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/
> > > > What you need to do is open port 80 (unencrypted http), that is,
> > > > Internet browsers. Be sure you have appropriate security because you
> > > > are putting your machine in a hostile environment!If you don't believe
> > > > that, look at your log after a few days on the 'net!
> > > > If you plan to encrypt your pages, you will also need port 443 open
> > > > (HTTPS).
> > > > Good luck.
> > > > John========================================
> > > > On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 20:04 +0200, Stathis G. Arapostathis wrote:
> > > > > Dear Sirs / Madams,
> > > > > I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any
> > > > > other necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the
> > > > > web and letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by
> > > > > putting my ip address.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have
> > > > > support and I received zero responses from the router's support
> > > > > service. I think I have added a port in my router's menu but still
> > > > > internet users do not have access on it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with
> > > > > mapserver and few other mapping tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > My router is the technicolor td5130.
> > > > >
> > > > > Could anyone provide some feedback please?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
Re: [users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having access
to my apache server through the ip address
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
The only other suggestions I have are to Verify that your server is
accessible from another machine, not blocked by a firewall or only
listening on loopback. It isn't likely to be an ISP issue unless they try
to restrict you from serving a website...
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 13:54 Stathis G. Arapostathis <
e.arapostathis@gmail.com wrote:
> well, i have a dynamic ip but this is not my problem. I also portforwarded
> port 80 before sending current question but I still do not have access.
>
> There are some years passed since the last time I port-forwarded apache
> server and I thought that maybe some additional modifications from
> apache-server side are needed as the updates pass through time.
>
> I guess I have to contact my ISP again, it could be an ISP issue.
> thank you very much for the quick responses.
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You may also need to look into whether you have a static or dynamic IP
>> address. Many Consumer ISP packages provide dynamic, so the public IP
>> address changes periodically, often a day or two in my experience. Also
>> note this won't be the IP address of your host machine, but the IP assigned
>> to the router.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:14 AM John <jo...@iliffe.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Start here:
>>>
>>> https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/
>>>
>>> What you need to do is open port 80 (unencrypted http), that is,
>>> Internet browsers. Be sure
>>> you have appropriate security because you are putting your machine in a
>>> hostile environment!
>>> If you don't believe that, look at your log after a few days on the 'net!
>>>
>>> If you plan to encrypt your pages, you will also need port 443 open
>>> (HTTPS).
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> John
>>> ========================================
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 20:04 +0200, Stathis G. Arapostathis wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Sirs / Madams,
>>>
>>> I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any other
>>> necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the web and
>>> letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by putting my ip
>>> address.
>>>
>>> I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have
>>> support and I received zero responses from the router's support service. I
>>> think I have added a port in my router's menu but still internet users do
>>> not have access on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with
>>> mapserver and few other mapping tools.
>>>
>>> My router is the technicolor td5130.
>>>
>>> Could anyone provide some feedback please?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathon Koyle
>>
>
Re: [users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having access
to my apache server through the ip address
Posted by "Stathis G. Arapostathis" <e....@gmail.com>.
well, i have a dynamic ip but this is not my problem. I also portforwarded
port 80 before sending current question but I still do not have access.
There are some years passed since the last time I port-forwarded apache
server and I thought that maybe some additional modifications from
apache-server side are needed as the updates pass through time.
I guess I have to contact my ISP again, it could be an ISP issue.
thank you very much for the quick responses.
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On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> You may also need to look into whether you have a static or dynamic IP
> address. Many Consumer ISP packages provide dynamic, so the public IP
> address changes periodically, often a day or two in my experience. Also
> note this won't be the IP address of your host machine, but the IP assigned
> to the router.
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:14 AM John <jo...@iliffe.ca> wrote:
>
>> Start here:
>>
>> https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/
>>
>> What you need to do is open port 80 (unencrypted http), that is, Internet
>> browsers. Be sure
>> you have appropriate security because you are putting your machine in a
>> hostile environment!
>> If you don't believe that, look at your log after a few days on the 'net!
>>
>> If you plan to encrypt your pages, you will also need port 443 open
>> (HTTPS).
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> John
>> ========================================
>>
>> On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 20:04 +0200, Stathis G. Arapostathis wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sirs / Madams,
>>
>> I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any other
>> necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the web and
>> letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by putting my ip
>> address.
>>
>> I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have
>> support and I received zero responses from the router's support service. I
>> think I have added a port in my router's menu but still internet users do
>> not have access on it.
>>
>>
>> I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with
>> mapserver and few other mapping tools.
>>
>> My router is the technicolor td5130.
>>
>> Could anyone provide some feedback please?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
> --
> Jonathon Koyle
>
Re: [users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having access
to my apache server through the ip address
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
You may also need to look into whether you have a static or dynamic IP
address. Many Consumer ISP packages provide dynamic, so the public IP
address changes periodically, often a day or two in my experience. Also
note this won't be the IP address of your host machine, but the IP assigned
to the router.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 11:14 AM John <jo...@iliffe.ca> wrote:
> Start here:
>
> https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/
>
> What you need to do is open port 80 (unencrypted http), that is, Internet
> browsers. Be sure
> you have appropriate security because you are putting your machine in a
> hostile environment!
> If you don't believe that, look at your log after a few days on the 'net!
>
> If you plan to encrypt your pages, you will also need port 443 open
> (HTTPS).
>
> Good luck.
>
> John
> ========================================
>
> On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 20:04 +0200, Stathis G. Arapostathis wrote:
>
> Dear Sirs / Madams,
>
> I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any other
> necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the web and
> letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by putting my ip
> address.
>
> I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have
> support and I received zero responses from the router's support service. I
> think I have added a port in my router's menu but still internet users do
> not have access on it.
>
>
> I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with
> mapserver and few other mapping tools.
>
> My router is the technicolor td5130.
>
> Could anyone provide some feedback please?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free.
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>
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Jonathon Koyle
Re: [users@httpd] port forwarding and other options for having
access to my apache server through the ip address
Posted by John <jo...@iliffe.ca>.
Start here:
https://portforward.com/technicolor/td5130/
What you need to do is open port 80 (unencrypted http), that is, Internet
browsers. Be sure you have appropriate security because you are putting your
machine in a hostile environment!If you don't believe that, look at your log
after a few days on the 'net!
If you plan to encrypt your pages, you will also need port 443 open (HTTPS).
Good luck.
John========================================
On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 20:04 +0200, Stathis G. Arapostathis wrote:
> Dear Sirs / Madams,
> I was wondering on how I could configure my router and make any other
> necessary configurations in order to open up my localhost to the web and
> letting internet users to access my locally stored pages by putting my ip
> address.
>
> I have an old router and no support is available. My isp does not have support
> and I received zero responses from the router's support service. I think I
> have added a port in my router's menu but still internet users do not have
> access on it.
>
>
> I am using the latest ms4w package which uses apache 2.4.27 along with
> mapserver and few other mapping tools.
>
> My router is the technicolor td5130.
>
> Could anyone provide some feedback please?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>
>
>