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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by "Carmona Perez, David" <DP...@fcc.es> on 2003/11/03 15:24:11 UTC

RE: JXForms vs. Woody vs. KISS

I think because JavaScript supports continuations and Java no, although the work is in progress (look at the Apple block).


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David

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Sylvain.Thevoz@swisscom.com [mailto:Sylvain.Thevoz@swisscom.com]
Enviado el: jueves, 30 de octubre de 2003 17:20
Para: users@cocoon.apache.org
Asunto: RE: JXForms vs. Woody vs. KISS

>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:sylvain.wallez@anyware-tech.com]
> Date: mardi, 28. octobre 2003 19:02
> À: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Objet: Re: JXForms vs. Woody vs. KISS
>
> Well, not later than this afternoon, I had a meeting with MVC zealots
> that were only speaking of "pure" MVC, Struts, "pure" JSP (no code),
> etc. I demonstrated them flowscript and woody (using my GT
> presentation
> which you can find in the cocoon downloads) and we ended the meeting
> with them saying "wow, this is a really clean MVC with strong
> separation
> of concerns, and looks very easy to use".
> 
> I found by experience that using Woody + Flowscript involves
> really few
> technologies: Javascript for the flow (but don't you already
> know it if
> you know HTML and/or Java?) and a lightweight declarative markup (the
> woody form definition). Not more than that.

Just one question from a woody novice: why using Javascript? I think that Java language is more practical and powerful. XMLForm used Java for the flow and this was a good solution I think.

Regards
Sylvain (T)

>
> Ah yes, you also need to learn a bunch of "wt:" elements for the form
> template. But even this can be avoided: before the abovementioned
> meeting, I hacked a 20-lines XSL that turns a plain old HTML page
> (without any single additional attribute) into a woody template.
>
> Sylvain
>

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RE: JXForms vs. Woody vs. KISS

Posted by Bruno Dumon <br...@outerthought.org>.
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 15:24, Carmona Perez, David wrote:
> I think because JavaScript supports continuations and Java no,
> although the work is in progress (look at the Apple block).

The apple block doesn't aim at supporting continuations though. (see
also the pages about generalized flow on the wiki)

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Bruno Dumon                             http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
bruno@outerthought.org                          bruno@apache.org


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