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Getting started with mod_perl

Hi,

I am just getting started with mod_perl.  Can someone tell me what 
versions of Apache and  mod_perl I should run together?

I am setting up a 1U server and a laptop.  I  have been debating RH9 or 
Fedora.  Any opinions there?

Thanks for your input.

-Ian



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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Gedanken wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Stas Bekman wrote:
> 
>  My mod_perl 2 tutorial is on Monday July 26, 1:45pm to 5:15pm. Feel free to 
>  stop by and learn so you can do more than just mention it.
>  
> forgive my ignornace, but where?

Randal was talking about OSCON.
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2004/

I usually also give this tutorial when I travel and happen to be around some 
perl mongers groups. But I need to write a new one since many things have 
changed over the period of the last year.

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Gedanken <ge...@io.com>.
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Stas Bekman wrote:

 My mod_perl 2 tutorial is on Monday July 26, 1:45pm to 5:15pm. Feel free to 
 stop by and learn so you can do more than just mention it.
 
forgive my ignornace, but where?


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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>"Stas" == Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org> writes:
> 
> 
> Stas> While mod_perl2 is almost there it is still in beta and some of the
> Stas> API is still changing. So if you want to stick with a stable API use
> Stas> mod_perl1 for now.
> 
> Yeah, I was wondering about that.

Hopefully by the conference time the API will be frozen and may be even 2.0 
released. It depends on how much help we can get on various fronts of 
polishing things and completing the missing things.

> In particular, I've been drafted to give a "mod perl" talk on the
> Apache track at OSCON.  My notes are all mod-perl1.  Will I be boo'ed
> off the stage if I mention mod_perl2 only in passing?

My mod_perl 2 tutorial is on Monday July 26, 1:45pm to 5:15pm. Feel free to 
stop by and learn so you can do more than just mention it.

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

> So, I'll have to change my spin a bit... can someone give me the
> latest pointers to "here's mp2 for you mp1 experts" notes or slides?

http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org>.
On 08 Apr 2004 11:53:09 -0700
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:

> >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org> writes:
> 
> Frank>   Considering most (if not all) of the talks last year at OSCON
> were Frank>   about 2.0 or switching to 2.0, a mostly 1.0 talk might
> be welcomed Frank>   by people who are new to mod_perl or not looking
> to switch in the Frank>   near future. 
> 
> Ahh, the talks I couldn't attend because I was busy manning my exhibit
> hall booth, trying desparately to pay my bills for the year. :)
> 
> So, I'll have to change my spin a bit... can someone give me the
> latest pointers to "here's mp2 for you mp1 experts" notes or slides?

  This link has been invaluable to me in moving from mp1 to mp2, it's
  probably the best place to start: 

  http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/porting/compat.html

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by "Randal L. Schwartz" <me...@stonehenge.com>.
>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org> writes:

Frank>   Considering most (if not all) of the talks last year at OSCON were
Frank>   about 2.0 or switching to 2.0, a mostly 1.0 talk might be welcomed
Frank>   by people who are new to mod_perl or not looking to switch in the
Frank>   near future. 

Ahh, the talks I couldn't attend because I was busy manning my exhibit
hall booth, trying desparately to pay my bills for the year. :)

So, I'll have to change my spin a bit... can someone give me the
latest pointers to "here's mp2 for you mp1 experts" notes or slides?

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org>.
On 08 Apr 2004 11:35:50 -0700
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:

> >>>>> "Stas" == Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org> writes:
> 
> Stas> While mod_perl2 is almost there it is still in beta and some of
> the Stas> API is still changing. So if you want to stick with a stable
> API use Stas> mod_perl1 for now.
> 
> Yeah, I was wondering about that.
> 
> In particular, I've been drafted to give a "mod perl" talk on the
> Apache track at OSCON.  My notes are all mod-perl1.  Will I be boo'ed
> off the stage if I mention mod_perl2 only in passing?

  I think as long as you specify up front that it's mostly about mp1
  I don't think anyone would boo you. :)  However, you might not get as
  big of a turn out from those of us who have switched or are in the
  process of switching to 2.0.  

  Considering most (if not all) of the talks last year at OSCON were
  about 2.0 or switching to 2.0, a mostly 1.0 talk might be welcomed
  by people who are new to mod_perl or not looking to switch in the
  near future. 

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by "Randal L. Schwartz" <me...@stonehenge.com>.
>>>>> "Stas" == Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org> writes:

Stas> While mod_perl2 is almost there it is still in beta and some of the
Stas> API is still changing. So if you want to stick with a stable API use
Stas> mod_perl1 for now.

Yeah, I was wondering about that.

In particular, I've been drafted to give a "mod perl" talk on the
Apache track at OSCON.  My notes are all mod-perl1.  Will I be boo'ed
off the stage if I mention mod_perl2 only in passing?

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Ken Burcham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ModPerl2 and Apache2 are the latest and greatest (You can't run 
> Apache1 with ModPerl2 or Apache2 with ModPerl1).  Note also 
> mod_perl_1.99 is (going to be) mod_perl2.
> 
> Here's what I do:
> 
> wget http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz
> 
> and
> 
> wget http://apache.mirrors.pair.com/httpd/httpd-2.0.48.tar.gz

BTW, Apache 2.0.49 is the latest version, not 2.0.48.

While mod_perl2 is almost there it is still in beta and some of the API is 
still changing. So if you want to stick with a stable API use mod_perl1 for now.

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Re: Getting started with mod_perl

Posted by Ken Burcham <ke...@burcham.com>.
Hi,

ModPerl2 and Apache2 are the latest and greatest (You can't run 
Apache1 with ModPerl2 or Apache2 with ModPerl1).  Note also 
mod_perl_1.99 is (going to be) mod_perl2.

Here's what I do:

wget http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz

and

wget http://apache.mirrors.pair.com/httpd/httpd-2.0.48.tar.gz

and while you're at it, grab the Apache::Request stuff:

wget http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/J/JO/JOESUF/libapreq2-2.02_02-
dev.tar.gz

ken.


On 8 Apr 2004 at 10:44, Ian harisay wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am just getting started with mod_perl.  Can someone tell me what 
> versions of Apache and  mod_perl I should run together?
> 
> I am setting up a 1U server and a laptop.  I  have been debating RH9 or 
> Fedora.  Any opinions there?
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> 
> -Ian
> 
> 
> 
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