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New to Versioning - Need help selecting

Hi-

I'm new to versioning and am trying to choose a package to use for Java 
development at a USGS branch.  We use the JDeveloper IDE for 
development, which has built-in extensions for CVS and Oracle's SCM.

It seems clear that there are shortcomings in CVS.  It also seems that 
Oracle is not recommending it's own SCM for JDeveloper.  So, I'm 
looking...

Subversion sounds great, but without a plugin for the IDE usage seems 
impracticle.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Subversion require me 
to do an svn add/delete/move/copy for *every* file that I need to do 
this type of operation to?  In the process of developing a web 
application, I can easily add/delete/move/copy 20-30 files a day!  Is 
there any way to check out a copy, add/delete/move files via 
non-subversive methods, then have those changes ripple up to the 
repository?

Thanks in Advance,

Eric Everman
USGS

Re: New to Versioning - Need help selecting

Posted by Brad Cox <bc...@virtualschool.edu>.
There's a subversion plugin for the Eclipse IDE that claims to do 
what you want. Flakey in my experience, but YMMV.

At 5:47 PM -0500 5/20/04, Eric Everman wrote:
>Hi-
>
>I'm new to versioning and am trying to choose a package to use for 
>Java development at a USGS branch.  We use the JDeveloper IDE for 
>development, which has built-in extensions for CVS and Oracle's SCM.
>
>It seems clear that there are shortcomings in CVS.  It also seems 
>that Oracle is not recommending it's own SCM for JDeveloper.  So, 
>I'm looking...
>
>Subversion sounds great, but without a plugin for the IDE usage 
>seems impracticle.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Subversion 
>require me to do an svn add/delete/move/copy for *every* file that I 
>need to do this type of operation to?  In the process of developing 
>a web application, I can easily add/delete/move/copy 20-30 files a 
>day!  Is there any way to check out a copy, add/delete/move files 
>via non-subversive methods, then have those changes ripple up to the 
>repository?
>
>Thanks in Advance,
>
>Eric Everman
>USGS


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Re: New to Versioning - Need help selecting

Posted by Illya Kysil <ik...@ua.fm>.
Eric Everman wrote:

> I'm new to versioning and am trying to choose a package to use for Java 
> development at a USGS branch.  We use the JDeveloper IDE for 
> development, which has built-in extensions for CVS and Oracle's SCM.
> 
> It seems clear that there are shortcomings in CVS.  It also seems that 
> Oracle is not recommending it's own SCM for JDeveloper.  So, I'm looking...
> 
> Subversion sounds great, but without a plugin for the IDE usage seems 
> impracticle.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Subversion require me 
> to do an svn add/delete/move/copy for *every* file that I need to do 
> this type of operation to?  In the process of developing a web 
> application, I can easily add/delete/move/copy 20-30 files a day!  Is 
> there any way to check out a copy, add/delete/move files via 
> non-subversive methods, then have those changes ripple up to the 
> repository?
TortoiseSVN may fit you if your dev. platform is Windows.
Integrates nice with Explorer & automatically processes added/deleted files.

I'm using it for non-Java projects. I use NetBeans+svn module+command line for 
Java projects. The only thing you need to check with your IDE is how it 
processes 'special' folders (.svn)? You should be able to exclude them from, 
e.g., WAR.

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Re: New to Versioning - Need help selecting

Posted by Francisco Gimeno <ki...@kikov.org>.
> Subversion sounds great, but without a plugin for the IDE usage seems
> impracticle.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but would Subversion require me
> to do an svn add/delete/move/copy for *every* file that I need to do
> this type of operation to?  In the process of developing a web
> application, I can easily add/delete/move/copy 20-30 files a day!  Is
> there any way to check out a copy, add/delete/move files via
> non-subversive methods, then have those changes ripple up to the
> repository?
People for ages have been using Command Line to perform operations on CVS and 
now, on SVN.
you could use svn add new_dir/*.html ; svn commit -m "New files" for example..
Wildcards are allowed.

Besides that, you could use a Dav explorer to a SVN-Dav server with 
Autoversioning. In this mode, you don't need to use svn 
add/delete/move/copy/commit/checkout commands. At least for 
uploading/upgrading documents.
But you'll need them to retrieve old versions.

SVN is flexible enough to allow a lot of configurations.

BR.
KikoV

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