RE: Tapestry Book

["Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>]

I wish I could help; work on the book is winding down and I'll be able to pay attention to the
reference documentation soon.  Manning will likely publish PDF versions of chapters from the book
online before it is available in print, and may even have a complete e-book version available.  The
book is in technical review right now.  With luck, it will be in bookstores by November (but much of
that is out of my control).

--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunter Kelly [mailto:retnuh@eircom.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:41 AM
> To: hlship@apache.org
> Subject: Tapestry Book
> 
> 
> Hiya
> 
> I'm a developer that's used alot of different web frameworks, 
> JSP, Struts, etc.  I like the sound of Tapestry quite alot, 
> but haven't had much time to play around with it.  I haven't 
> looked into the tutorials much (yet), mainly becuase of the 
> big scary warnings that say "these tutorials are wildly out of date".
> 
> I know that you are in the process of writing a book about 
> it, and I was wondering if there was any way to look at the 
> work in progress, whether it be as a technical reviewer, or 
> through some other approach. 
> Honestly, I'd be willing to pay you directly the price of the 
> book for "pre-release" access, as long as I get a copy of the 
> final product!
> 
> Please let me know if there is something we can work out.
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Hunter Kelly
> 
> 

Re: Tapestry Book

[Harish Krishnaswamy <hk...@comcast.net>]

Checkout the component reference at 
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/doc/ComponentReference/Foreach.html. 
It has an example that would help you.

-Harish

prasad iyer wrote:

>Hi,
>How do I use "Foreach"
>thanks
>regards
>prasad chandrasekaran
>
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Re: Tapestry Book

[prasad iyer <c_...@hotmail.com>]

Hi,
How do I use "Foreach"
thanks
regards
prasad chandrasekaran

Re: Tapestry Book

[Bill Lear <ra...@zopyra.com>]

On Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 10:17:16 (-0400) Shantanu Deo writes:
>Why not put what you have on the Serverside, I am sure that will provide an
>exponential increase in the number of Tapestry users - very good business
>sense - and also not be a dis-service to current tapestry users. Honestly
>this thing about working on the book while letting current users off the
>deep end with outdated docs is kind of a bummer really.

You have to keep in mind that Howard has written Tapestry with no
compensation and that he is spending his own time (and money) writing
this book.  In the meantime, if you feel so inclined and capable, you
can organize others to write support documentation, answer questions,
etc.  We owe Howard a load of gratitude for his work and there is
little purpose served in complaining of what little hasn't been
provided to us.


Bill

RE: Tapestry Book

["Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>]

> 
> Why not put what you have on the Serverside, 

That's Manning's call.  They have done so in the past, but they have *paid* me for the book, and
they control the publishing rights.

> I am sure that 
> will provide an exponential increase in the number of 
> Tapestry users - very good business sense - and also not be a 
> dis-service to current tapestry users. Honestly this thing 
> about working on the book while letting current users off the 
> deep end with outdated docs is kind of a bummer really.
> 

Tapestry is still a volunteer effort.  I took over four months off to work on this book (and improve
the framework).  Even if the book sells well, I'll still be between $10 and $25K in the hole because
of the unpaid leave.  My current employer doesn't subsidise Tapestry.

I've put my money where my mouth is, but there's only so much Howard to go around.  If someone else
wants to subsidize me and allow me to work on Tapestry and Tapestry projects full time, I'm very
much open to the possibility.  In the meantime, I'm prioritizing my limited time, and the book has
to come first.

--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry

Re: Tapestry Book

[Shantanu Deo <sh...@elixir-it.com>]

Why not put what you have on the Serverside, I am sure that will provide an
exponential increase in the number of Tapestry users - very good business
sense - and also not be a dis-service to current tapestry users. Honestly
this thing about working on the book while letting current users off the
deep end with outdated docs is kind of a bummer really.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Hunter Kelly'" <re...@eircom.net>
Cc: "Tapestry Users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: Tapestry Book


I wish I could help; work on the book is winding down and I'll be able to
pay attention to the
reference documentation soon.  Manning will likely publish PDF versions of
chapters from the book
online before it is available in print, and may even have a complete e-book
version available.  The
book is in technical review right now.  With luck, it will be in bookstores
by November (but much of
that is out of my control).

--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunter Kelly [mailto:retnuh@eircom.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:41 AM
> To: hlship@apache.org
> Subject: Tapestry Book
>
>
> Hiya
>
> I'm a developer that's used alot of different web frameworks,
> JSP, Struts, etc.  I like the sound of Tapestry quite alot,
> but haven't had much time to play around with it.  I haven't
> looked into the tutorials much (yet), mainly becuase of the
> big scary warnings that say "these tutorials are wildly out of date".
>
> I know that you are in the process of writing a book about
> it, and I was wondering if there was any way to look at the
> work in progress, whether it be as a technical reviewer, or
> through some other approach.
> Honestly, I'd be willing to pay you directly the price of the
> book for "pre-release" access, as long as I get a copy of the
> final product!
>
> Please let me know if there is something we can work out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hunter Kelly
>
>


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