RE: Blog Created - Statistics

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>]

I looked at the Apache blogs with most hits for the past day (being Saturday I think although it is Sunday on Blog time).

Only 6 of them had more than 10 vists or whatever the counter cunts.

1. Foundation (at 423) is essentially press releases on foundation matters.

4. infra (at 33) is notice oriented.  There is about one per month.  These are often useful things that Committers and others need to know about changes that are happening.

5. conferences (23) is press-office sort of stuff about Apache-related events

6. click (15) has lately been about releases and their content. 

3. openejb (36) has a mix of events, releases, and tips, including links to material elsewhere.

2. ooo (75) that's us and *before* there was anything at the blog address too.  I see the stats just rolled up to 86 so I have no idea whether this is a sliding-window count or what.  There seems to be some pent-up interest or else the stats are just wacky.

I don't know what to make of this.  Interesting though.  The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5.   Europe is awake?

 - Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org] 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 20:09
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; gavin@16degrees.com.au
Subject: RE: Blog Created

Ah well.  I've seen those kinds of blogs, that are essentially announcements.  So it is  a notices mechanism with a syndication feed.  I will have to go look at one of the ones that seems to get lots of hits according to the headline/summary aggregator.  Wonder if they get much by way of comments apart from spam.

I'm from the "Naked Conversations" school of blogging, so I may have to take my crayons to some other place where I can ponder the fright, frustration, and outright fun on an Apache project, the OpenOffice.org podling in particular.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:gavin@16degrees.com.au] 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 19:39
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Blog Created



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Brown [mailto:andy@the-martin-byrd.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 12:18 PM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Blog Created
> 
> Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > Dang!
> >
> > Well, I just jumped right in.
> >
> > So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way?
> >
> > Is that a requirement?  Is that what we want?  I thought that is what web
> sites are for.  Blogs have a different kind of voice in my experience.
> >
> > I have lots of outlets for blogging, and I could always create an Apache-
> oriented RSS feed for aggregation, although probably not, since it doesn't
> seem like that much fun.
> >
> > Ah well,
> >
> >  - Dennis
> 
> I would not say "official" but at least semi-official in that it would show, in a
> faster way, what we are doing and how things are going with the project.  I
> think what you did was a good indication of the way it should go.  That is my
> personal opinion and I my be off base here.

+1

All blogs at blogs.apache.org are official in that they talk about the project, they don't
wander off talking about some developers own thing etc etc...

They can talk about releases as extra exposure - folks often subscribe to RSS feeds
etc rather than keep looking to a website for an update. They can talk about what's
happening currently, they can announce a new committer, a new up and coming 
feature or long awaited fix,etc etc..

What Dennis blogged IMO was spot on and a great start to the Apache OpenOffice[.org]
blog.

What Dave mentioned is also something some but not all projects do, and not all the time - 
that is to draft a blog announcement for something, then post a 'preview url' to the (this)
dev list for opinions on changes/tweaks/etc before it goes live. That is ideally a tool on 
improving, extending and typechecking the blog post rather than opinions to veto it .

HTH


Gav...

> 
> Andy

Re: Blog Created - Statistics

[Pavel Janík <Pa...@Janik.cz>]

> The 'site' is as stable as it will ever get on current hardware, resource
> and volunteers.

Hmm, OK. Maybe we do not need to run such intensive tasks like roller on it and just use some blog aggregation software which was determined as the best solution for our project in the past. We have had Planet OpenOffice.org...

> Unless this was your way of offering to help?

I already offered my life to OOo 9 or so years ago, I can't offer more, sorry.
-- 
Pavel Janík

RE: Blog Created - Statistics

[Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pavel Janík [mailto:Pavel@Janik.cz]
> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 7:00 PM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Blog Created - Statistics
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Nick Kew wrote:
> 
> >
> > On 10 Jul 2011, at 05:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know what to make of this.  Interesting though.  The numbers
are
> going up across the board for the top 5.   Europe is awake?
> >
> > Apart from foundation, blogs.apache.org doesn't have a history of being
> much used.
> > Apache folks blog elsewhere, and planet apache aggregates.
> 
> And I know why. The site is so unstable that I was not yet able to get its
> contents. Please do not make the URL published before the site is more
> stable.
> 

The 'site' is as stable as it will ever get on current hardware, resource
and volunteers.
Unless this was your way of offering to help?

Gav...


> I get this:
> 
> Proxy Error
> 
> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
> The proxy server could not handle the request GET /OOo/.
> 
> Reason: Error reading from remote server
> 
> Apache/2.0.63 Server at blogs.apache.org Port 443
> --
> Pavel Janík
> 
> 

Re: Blog Created - Statistics

[Pavel Janík <Pa...@Janik.cz>]

On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Nick Kew wrote:

> 
> On 10 Jul 2011, at 05:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what to make of this.  Interesting though.  The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5.   Europe is awake?
> 
> Apart from foundation, blogs.apache.org doesn't have a history of being much used.
> Apache folks blog elsewhere, and planet apache aggregates.

And I know why. The site is so unstable that I was not yet able to get its contents. Please do not make the URL published before the site is more stable.

I get this:

Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /OOo/.

Reason: Error reading from remote server

Apache/2.0.63 Server at blogs.apache.org Port 443
-- 
Pavel Janík

Re: Blog Created - Statistics

[Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>]

On 10 Jul 2011, at 05:33, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> I don't know what to make of this.  Interesting though.  The numbers are going up across the board for the top 5.   Europe is awake?

Apart from foundation, blogs.apache.org doesn't have a history of being much used.
Apache folks blog elsewhere, and planet apache aggregates.

OOo may be setting a new trend by the mere act of focusing on it in a dev list!

-- 
Nick Kew

Available for work, contract or permanent
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