Website space

[Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>]

I've set up a Confluence space at:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIGxSITE

If you want write access (i.e. are a Shindig committer), let me know
your confluence account ID (you should register and let me know your
choice) and I'll add you to the shindig committers group.

Whenever you make a change, this exports to:

 http://cwiki.apache.org/SHINDIGxSITE

We can control the style of this export. I'm happy to provide the
template to anyone who volunteers to make it pretty.

I need to get an rsync set up to get that from there onto
our /www/incubator.apache.org/shindig/ space.

Regards, Upayavira

Re: Website space

[Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>]

Unfortunately, they are independent. There have been various moves to
implement some kind of central authentication within Apache. However,
none have matured sufficiently to be usable. One day...

As to the page you've published - I can give you a copy of the template
as it currently stands. If you can mangle that into the format of your
other page, then it can be done!

Regards, Upayavira

On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 02:52 -0800, Bruno Bowden wrote:
> Thanks for this Upayavira.
> 
> We now have 3 separate accounts for committing, JIRA issue tracker and now
> the confluence site. Is there a way we can tie these accounts together?
> 
> Anything stopping us from using this for the pages that we've previously
> published?
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2008 2:29 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I've set up a Confluence space at:
> >  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIGxSITE
> >
> > If you want write access (i.e. are a Shindig committer), let me know
> > your confluence account ID (you should register and let me know your
> > choice) and I'll add you to the shindig committers group.
> >
> > Whenever you make a change, this exports to:
> >
> >  http://cwiki.apache.org/SHINDIGxSITE
> >
> > We can control the style of this export. I'm happy to provide the
> > template to anyone who volunteers to make it pretty.
> >
> > I need to get an rsync set up to get that from there onto
> > our /www/incubator.apache.org/shindig/ space.
> >
> > Regards, Upayavira
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: Website space

[Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com>]

Thanks for this Upayavira.

We now have 3 separate accounts for committing, JIRA issue tracker and now
the confluence site. Is there a way we can tie these accounts together?

Anything stopping us from using this for the pages that we've previously
published?


On Feb 5, 2008 2:29 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:

> I've set up a Confluence space at:
>  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIGxSITE
>
> If you want write access (i.e. are a Shindig committer), let me know
> your confluence account ID (you should register and let me know your
> choice) and I'll add you to the shindig committers group.
>
> Whenever you make a change, this exports to:
>
>  http://cwiki.apache.org/SHINDIGxSITE
>
> We can control the style of this export. I'm happy to provide the
> template to anyone who volunteers to make it pretty.
>
> I need to get an rsync set up to get that from there onto
> our /www/incubator.apache.org/shindig/ space.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
>
>
>

Re: Website space

[Brian Eaton <be...@google.com>]

On Feb 7, 2008 1:14 AM, Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com> wrote:
> We can defer this decision until we understand it better. We can just start
> with a wiki limited to contributors right now. Then as our community grows,
> we can consider open up a second wiki that's community based. Right now, I
> think it helps to have more control while we're figuring out messaging and
> structure. Once that's in place, it's a much better time to involve more
> people.

I don't have contributor access but I'm very interested in getting
some Shindig security documentation written and posted somewhere.  The
wiki would be a good place.

Cheers,
Brian

Re: Website space

[Bruno Bowden <br...@google.com>]

> <http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg14391.html>We
> should probably define what the Wiki should be used for:
>

We can defer this decision until we understand it better. We can just start
with a wiki limited to contributors right now. Then as our community grows,
we can consider open up a second wiki that's community based. Right now, I
think it helps to have more control while we're figuring out messaging and
structure. Once that's in place, it's a much better time to involve more
people.


> a) As a general Wiki for both Shindig developers and users which would
> be open to everybody. It would still require a login and be moderated
> to avoid spam etc.
>
> b) As a Wiki for only the contributors, for instance for creating the
> documentation etc., Such a wiki would only be available to comitters
> and perhaps contributors with a CLA on file. If non-contributors want
> to contribute to
> the wiki, they can supply patches (e.g. text fragments) via JIRA.
>
> I would think we definitely want b), but I'm not sure about a) as the
> mailing list and its archive could probably fulfill this need as well.
>
> Tom
>

Re: Website space

[Thomas Dudziak <to...@gmail.com>]

On Feb 6, 2008 11:33 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> First, committers should not be based only in contributions code. But
> to address the issue where non-committers need to contribute to the
> wiki, the Shindig PMC can give access to non-committers but should
> probably requeire a CLA to be on file. See discussion thread [1].
>
> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg14391.html

We should probably define what the Wiki should be used for:

a) As a general Wiki for both Shindig developers and users which would
be open to everybody. It would still require a login and be moderated
to avoid spam etc.

b) As a Wiki for only the contributors, for instance for creating the
documentation etc., Such a wiki would only be available to comitters
and perhaps contributors with a CLA on file. If non-contributors want
to contribute to
the wiki, they can supply patches (e.g. text fragments) via JIRA.

I would think we definitely want b), but I'm not sure about a) as the
mailing list and its archive could probably fulfill this need as well.

Tom

Re: Website space

[Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>]

First, committers should not be based only in contributions code. But
to address the issue where non-committers need to contribute to the
wiki, the Shindig PMC can give access to non-committers but should
probably requeire a CLA to be on file. See discussion thread [1].

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg14391.html

On Feb 6, 2008 11:08 AM, Arne Roomann-Kurrik <ku...@google.com> wrote:
> Thank you Upayavira!
>
>    I'm curious as to what the process for submitting to the wiki will be for
> people who are not Shindig committers.  I won't be developing heavily with
> Shindig, but would still like to contribute to the wiki where possible.
>
> ~Arne
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 2:29 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I've set up a Confluence space at:
> >  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIGxSITE
> >
> > If you want write access (i.e. are a Shindig committer), let me know
> > your confluence account ID (you should register and let me know your
> > choice) and I'll add you to the shindig committers group.
> >
> > Whenever you make a change, this exports to:
> >
> >  http://cwiki.apache.org/SHINDIGxSITE
> >
> > We can control the style of this export. I'm happy to provide the
> > template to anyone who volunteers to make it pretty.
> >
> > I need to get an rsync set up to get that from there onto
> > our /www/incubator.apache.org/shindig/ space.
> >
> > Regards, Upayavira
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Re: Website space

[Brian Eaton <be...@google.com>]

On Feb 6, 2008 11:25 AM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> Now that I have worked out how to set up spaces on Confluence, I could
> set another one up for use as a wiki, with wider write permissions. Is
> that what folks want?

I think so.  There are people working on Shindig who don't have
committer access but can provide valuable information about the
project nonetheless.

Re: Website space

[Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>]

On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 11:08 -0800, Arne Roomann-Kurrik wrote:
> Thank you Upayavira!
> 
>    I'm curious as to what the process for submitting to the wiki will be for
> people who are not Shindig committers.  I won't be developing heavily with
> Shindig, but would still like to contribute to the wiki where possible.

This one really isn't a wiki, it is more a web site publishing tool.

Now that I have worked out how to set up spaces on Confluence, I could
set another one up for use as a wiki, with wider write permissions. Is
that what folks want?

Upayavira

Re: Website space

[Arne Roomann-Kurrik <ku...@google.com>]

Thank you Upayavira!

   I'm curious as to what the process for submitting to the wiki will be for
people who are not Shindig committers.  I won't be developing heavily with
Shindig, but would still like to contribute to the wiki where possible.

~Arne



On Feb 5, 2008 2:29 PM, Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:

> I've set up a Confluence space at:
>  http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIGxSITE
>
> If you want write access (i.e. are a Shindig committer), let me know
> your confluence account ID (you should register and let me know your
> choice) and I'll add you to the shindig committers group.
>
> Whenever you make a change, this exports to:
>
>  http://cwiki.apache.org/SHINDIGxSITE
>
> We can control the style of this export. I'm happy to provide the
> template to anyone who volunteers to make it pretty.
>
> I need to get an rsync set up to get that from there onto
> our /www/incubator.apache.org/shindig/ space.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
>
>
>