committing

[Matthew Inger <ma...@yahoo.com>]

Xavier (and others),

I have an agreement on file as an apache committer, and would like to be given karma to commit to the ivy project.
Any particular process I need to follow?

 
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Re: committing

[Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>]

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Matthew Inger <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have an agreement on file as an apache committer, and would like
> to be given karma to commit to the ivy project.  Any particular
> process I need to follow?

The same process as for any other ASF project.  Provide patches until
the existing committers are tired of committing them and vote to grant
you karma. 8-)

Stefan

Re: committing

[Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>]

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Stephane Bailliez <sb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So it is better to 'know people' before granting them commit rights,

yes, this is an important point.  It is more important to get involved
with the community so people get to know you than to create tons of
code.

> It's generally never a problem a 'technical skills' but more about
> knowing that the user is able to figure out his limits and will fit
> in without any issue and not cause problems. (should it be technical
> or social).

We once had an Ant committer who gained the communities respect and
trust just by being involved with the user list and discussions on
future directions.  She hardly ever committed any code changes, but
was a very important asset of the committer base.

Stefan

Re: committing

[Stephane Bailliez <sb...@gmail.com>]

Xavier Hanin wrote:
> So, mentors, could you tell us more about that?
mmm...it's not related to being in the incubator or not. It's a general 
rule.

No one wants to come to a point where there is conflicts between users, 
and there starts to be some -1 flying around because changes are made 
without any consultation or global direction and understanding how the 
concept of community works.

So it is better to 'know people' before granting them commit rights, 
just like you prefer to give your car keys or apartment keys or camera 
lenses to people you trust rather than complete strangers you meet in 
the street.

It's generally never a problem a 'technical skills' but more about 
knowing that the user is able to figure out his limits and will fit in 
without any issue and not cause problems. (should it be technical or 
social).

So technically speaking for example I'm supposedly a mentor for Ivy but 
doing a very bad job at it and not very active and I haven't had time to 
catchup with the backlog for a couple of weeks, so it would be unfair 
for me to even ask for commit rights since I'm not very active, even 
though I'm using Ivy everyday . :-)

-- stephane

Re: committing

[Xavier Hanin <xa...@gmail.com>]

On 4/25/07, Matthew Inger <ma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Xavier (and others),
>
> I have an agreement on file as an apache committer, and would like to be given karma to commit to the ivy project.
> Any particular process I need to follow?
I think the question could better be answered by Ivy mentors, since my
experience with Apache rules is very limited.

From my understanding, to get commit rights on a project you need to
become an official committer, and this requires a vote by the PPMC.

AFAIK, to get voted in as a committer you first need to demonstrate
your contribution to the project (be active on the lists, contribute
patches, ...). Don't get me wrong, I'd be more than happy to see more
people with commit rights. But on the other hand as an incubating
project I think we need to be very careful with the Apache rules.

So, mentors, could you tell us more about that?

Xavier

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