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Posted to dev@taverna.apache.org by Christian Brenninkmeijer <br...@cs.man.ac.uk> on 2015/02/27 13:56:29 UTC
Scufl 2 Pages for website
Hi All,
Now that the Scufl 2 / language has been moved to the Apache
repositories I will create some web pages for it on:
http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/
and place some links in the nav bar.
Please send me link to the various places I should get the scuffle 2
information from.
Including any pages already on http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/
Note I only need the parent pages, I can them follow the links on that
pages deciding which child pages to copy over.
I already have:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/blob/master/README.md
So don't need any pages already included in the readmes
For example should stuff at:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
or
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2010-07+SCUFL2
be used.
This includes any link to external sites I should make sure we link to:
Christian
Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
Also quite important:
https://github.com/taverna/taverna-prov#structure-of-exported-provenance
On 27 February 2015 at 12:56, Christian Brenninkmeijer
<br...@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Now that the Scufl 2 / language has been moved to the Apache repositories I
> will create some web pages for it on:
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/
>
> and place some links in the nav bar.
>
> Please send me link to the various places I should get the scuffle 2
> information from.
> Including any pages already on http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/
>
> Note I only need the parent pages, I can them follow the links on that pages
> deciding which child pages to copy over.
> I already have:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/blob/master/README.md
> So don't need any pages already included in the readmes
>
> For example should stuff at:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
> or
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2010-07+SCUFL2
> be used.
>
> This includes any link to external sites I should make sure we link to:
>
> Christian
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Christian Brenninkmeijer <br...@cs.man.ac.uk>.
Hi All, (Especially Stain)
A am still waiting for a reply to this which is blocking my copying the
webpages.
Christian
On 03/03/2015 15:07, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> There is a lot of use of
> "http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/workflows" expecialy in minted URIs
> 1. Is this still correct?
> 2. As that points to
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/ns/2010/workflows we should put a
> holding page there.
RE: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Christian Brenninkmeijer <ch...@manchester.ac.uk>.
I have added a header to every page in the wiki
Scufl2 has moved to Apache (incubator)
Information in this section is out of date!
With a link to the Apache webpages
________________________________________
From: alaninmcr [alaninmcr@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:45 PM
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
On 11/03/2015 16:27, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> I have copied over the pages as suggested
Brilliant
> except:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
> as it is significantly different to:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language
Most of that section of the myGrid wiki should probably be archived and
just have a page that redirects to the correct Apache page.
Alan
Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by alaninmcr <al...@googlemail.com>.
On 11/03/2015 16:27, Christian Brenninkmeijer wrote:
> I have copied over the pages as suggested
Brilliant
> except:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
> as it is significantly different to:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language
Most of that section of the myGrid wiki should probably be archived and
just have a page that redirects to the correct Apache page.
Alan
RE: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Christian Brenninkmeijer <ch...@manchester.ac.uk>.
I have copied over the pages as suggested except:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
as it is significantly different to:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language
I have not yet update any examples as suggested here.
I have added an extra "scufl2" menu list which shows up whenever a scufl2 page is selected.
Next steps;
Mark mygrid pages deprecated
Do the download page.
copy/ moved some of the stuff from https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language to the api page
Update examples.
Please: If anyone would like to make any changes please reply to this first so we don't get conflicts/ duplicate work.
Christian
________________________________________
From: Stian Soiland-Reyes [stain@apache.org]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:22 PM
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
On 3 March 2015 at 15:07, Christian Brenninkmeijer
<br...@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
> Looking at the mygrid pages I suggest coping the following pages:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2
OK
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-DataLink
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Processors
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Workflow
Outdated
If you feel like updating them - simply copy the relevant filepaths and XML from
.././incubator-taverna-language/taverna-scufl2-examples/examples/helloanyone.wfbundle
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Profile
Empty
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+URIs
Fine (But not all of those are handled by guess.taverna.org.uk yet)
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+use+cases
Drop it.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-WorkflowBundle
Generally fine - but some outdated examples.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+Workflow+Bundle
Fine
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+URI+templates
This is the proposal that lead to
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+URIs
.. but as it contains the explanations perhaps some its content should
go into Scufl2+URIs
See also http://ns.taverna.org.uk/ which explains the namespaces
> I suggest not folling these pages as the are marked as old or incomplete.
> Do we need stubs for any of these or do I just remove the links?
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
No, this is very much up to date and needs to move over.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+Ontology
Out of date - but placeholder needed as
http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/scufl2#http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/scufl2#
goes there.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+language
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5211689
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2011-02+Scufl2+status
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2011-02+Data+bundle
Outdated
>
> I was also not going to copy the proposal pages across:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2013-06-12+Configuration+as+JSON
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2010-05+Semantification
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/TAVOSGI/2013-02+Data+bundle+requirements
Agreed.
> There is a lot of use of
> "http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/workflows" expecialy in minted URIs
> 1. Is this still correct?
Yes - see
"ns.taverna.org.uk and apache.org"
at
http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/ns/
We will transfer DNS of *.taverna.org.uk to Apache.
> 2. As that points to http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/ns/2010/workflows
> we should put a holding page there.
I think it should be without the plural - e.g.
http://guess.taverna.org.uk/ does not support /2010/workflow/ yet -
but it should not be hard as it would look pretty much the same as
http://guess.taverna.org.uk/workflowBundle/2f0e94ef-b5c4-455d-aeab-1e9611f46b8b/workflow/HelloWorld/processor/hello/out/output1
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
On 3 March 2015 at 15:07, Christian Brenninkmeijer
<br...@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
> Looking at the mygrid pages I suggest coping the following pages:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2
OK
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-DataLink
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Processors
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Workflow
Outdated
If you feel like updating them - simply copy the relevant filepaths and XML from
.././incubator-taverna-language/taverna-scufl2-examples/examples/helloanyone.wfbundle
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Profile
Empty
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+URIs
Fine (But not all of those are handled by guess.taverna.org.uk yet)
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+use+cases
Drop it.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-WorkflowBundle
Generally fine - but some outdated examples.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+Workflow+Bundle
Fine
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+URI+templates
This is the proposal that lead to
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+URIs
.. but as it contains the explanations perhaps some its content should
go into Scufl2+URIs
See also http://ns.taverna.org.uk/ which explains the namespaces
> I suggest not folling these pages as the are marked as old or incomplete.
> Do we need stubs for any of these or do I just remove the links?
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
No, this is very much up to date and needs to move over.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+Ontology
Out of date - but placeholder needed as
http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/scufl2#http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/scufl2#
goes there.
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+language
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5211689
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2011-02+Scufl2+status
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2011-02+Data+bundle
Outdated
>
> I was also not going to copy the proposal pages across:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2013-06-12+Configuration+as+JSON
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2010-05+Semantification
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/TAVOSGI/2013-02+Data+bundle+requirements
Agreed.
> There is a lot of use of
> "http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/workflows" expecialy in minted URIs
> 1. Is this still correct?
Yes - see
"ns.taverna.org.uk and apache.org"
at
http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/ns/
We will transfer DNS of *.taverna.org.uk to Apache.
> 2. As that points to http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/ns/2010/workflows
> we should put a holding page there.
I think it should be without the plural - e.g.
http://guess.taverna.org.uk/ does not support /2010/workflow/ yet -
but it should not be hard as it would look pretty much the same as
http://guess.taverna.org.uk/workflowBundle/2f0e94ef-b5c4-455d-aeab-1e9611f46b8b/workflow/HelloWorld/processor/hello/out/output1
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Christian Brenninkmeijer <br...@cs.man.ac.uk>.
Looking at the mygrid pages I suggest coping the following pages:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-DataLink
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Processors
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Profile
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+URIs
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+use+cases
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-Workflow
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2-WorkflowBundle
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+Workflow+Bundle
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+URI+templates
I suggest not folling these pages as the are marked as old or incomplete.
Do we need stubs for any of these or do I just remove the links?
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Scufl2+Ontology
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+language
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5211689
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2011-02+Scufl2+status
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2011-02+Data+bundle
I was also not going to copy the proposal pages across:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2013-06-12+Configuration+as+JSON
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2010-05+Semantification
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/TAVOSGI/2013-02+Data+bundle+requirements
There is a lot of use of
"http://ns.taverna.org.uk/2010/workflows" expecialy in minted URIs
1. Is this still correct?
2. As that points to
http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/ns/2010/workflows we should put a
holding page there.
Christian
On 27/02/2015 14:25, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+Workflow+Bundle
> https://w3id.org/bundle
Re: Scufl 2 Pages for website
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
Great! Yes - we would definitely need more documentation about Taverna
Language as that will be the first one out of the door.
Sounds like you have gathered most of the links!
More READMEs nested:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/tree/master/taverna-databundle
https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/tree/master/taverna-robundle
https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/tree/master/taverna-scufl2-examples
https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/tree/master/taverna-scufl2-wfdesc
I think perhaps now the READMEs have too much information (They are
more Github style) - they should focus on developer-aspects like how
to build it and which modules are what - while how to use the thing
should rather be on the website (as it might help inform you if you
are going to download it in the first place).
It's tricky for these ones in taverna-language as they are APIs and so
it is also good for the documentation to be quite close to the code -
so keeping links into browsing the GitHub rendtion of a class for
instance, is also an implicit invitation for "Go here to fix
something". In many cases I would prefer those kind of links over
links to the javadoc. Obviously any shortened READMEs (to avoid
duplication) should link to the new pages.
Also:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+Workflow+Bundle
https://w3id.org/bundle
Do not transfer pages like:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+language
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+URI+templates
as those pages are rather out of date (for instance uses Turtle
instead of RDF/XML)
The javadoc for taverna-language are at
http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/javadoc/taverna-language/
A tutorial for RO+Data bundle which could easily be rewritten to not
need the taverna/taverna-dev-tutorials repository:
https://github.com/taverna/taverna-dev-tutorials/tree/master/taverna-language-tutorial
As slides:
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/download/attachments/19531203/Research
Object Data Bundles tutorial.pdf
http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/download/attachments/19531203/Taverna%20Platform.pptx
)
On 27 February 2015 at 12:56, Christian Brenninkmeijer
<br...@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Now that the Scufl 2 / language has been moved to the Apache repositories I
> will create some web pages for it on:
> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/
>
> and place some links in the nav bar.
>
> Please send me link to the various places I should get the scuffle 2
> information from.
> Including any pages already on http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/
>
> Note I only need the parent pages, I can them follow the links on that pages
> deciding which child pages to copy over.
> I already have:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/blob/master/README.md
> So don't need any pages already included in the readmes
>
> For example should stuff at:
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/SCUFL2+API
> or
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/2010-07+SCUFL2
> be used.
>
> This includes any link to external sites I should make sure we link to:
>
> Christian
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718