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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net> on 2002/05/07 16:35:36 UTC
FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
I'm running FBSD 4.5 and migrating several virtual host domains/websites
from a BDSi server and have what is probably a very basic question about
how to provide access to the virtual host's site via FTP (and using
FrontPage as well). I did not handle such details at the old server, but do
now and want to set up the vhosts properly so the access is similar as before.
I do not place the vhost in user accounts. The document paths are
structured as follows:
/usr/local/www/maindomain
/usr/local/www/vhost1
/usr/local/www/vhost2
/usr/local/www/vhost3 ....and so forth.
Apache is set up for the main domain a a couple of the vhosts already, but
they belong to me and I don't have any access problems, being the super
user. Also, FrontPage2000 sets up and publishes fine. The user and group
for Apache and FP is set to www:www.
Now, however, I'm getting ready to move domains that belong to others
without access except through FTP and Frontpage, but most don't want to use
Frontpage and prefer FTP to upload content that has been produced on their
local machines. Fairly common method I imagine.
I have fiddled with a test domain that I set up as a vhost to see how it
could be accessed via FTP. BTW, my FTP is ProFTPD and is set so that the
user only sees the contents that belong to them and so the "root" they
login to has to be a user account. In order to FTP login at the root of the
vhost, I have to set up a "user" in the name of the vhost, BUT, cannot FTP
upload/download to it because of permissions apparently.
The obvious question I have is with the above setup, how do I give the
vhost user access to the root of his "root" that would appear like this and
he would see all of the content/directories contained below:
/usr/local/www/vhost1/
...and point of entry would be /usr/local/www/vhost1/
Better yet, to be identical to the old server setup, the path would be:
/usr/local/www/vhost/data ...and the CGI directory is accessible as:
/usr/local/www/vhost/cgi-bin
The user's FTP point of entry must still be:
/usr/local/www/vhost/
...and be writable for that user.
Again, Apache is set to www:www (and so is FP2000)
Please help me with proper solutions to how to give the "Vuser" access via
FTP....??? Thanks in advance for any help.
.... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/
Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
Server Admin
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javascript FYI
Posted by Adon Cook <ad...@barrodale.com>.
Hi.
I figured out what my javascript problem was. The developer who wrote the
code had embedded a bit of javascript halfway inside the HEAD and halway
outside. Though this code worked fine on a Xitami server, Apache did
something different. I simply had to remove it from the HEAD and place all
my javascript inside the BODY of the HTML file.
Hope this helps anyone else who may encounter the same problem.
-adon
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Frontpage extensions
Posted by Philip Blair <ph...@zen.co.uk>.
Is it possible to run the Frontpage extensions on Apache under Win2000? If
so where can I download them and are there any howto type documents?
I'm a total novice to web servers and building and so would like the
simplicity of the Frontpage extensions, at least to start with. I have
looked at the Apache site and also on the Microsoft site and they seem to
imply that there isn't a version of the FP extensions for Apache under 2000
or NT.
If this is the case then I will have to go with IIS and that will be a pain
after getting Apache running OK.
Thanks,
Philip.
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Re: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
Posted by "Timothy G. Wesemann" <ti...@voicenet.com>.
Jack,
You`ve got lots of problems. Your company isn`t hiring is it? =]
See comments inline.
|> Hi, Timothy: Sorry if this is the wrong list, but actually,
since I'm
|> unsure of what will allow things to work the way I described,
I wasn't sure
|> what controlled the permissions needed. Sort of thought it
might be
|> Apache's <Directory> stuff.
|>
|> Thanks for your questions to clarify more. Here's what I have
now:
|>
|> 1) Yes, in ProFTP config, I have the "DefaultRoot ~" set so
that user land
|> in their own user accounts but cannot see other user
accounts/directories.
Okay, so I assume that the local user`s homedir in /etc/passwd
(or yp-type equiv.) is in the /usr/local/www/./vhost1/ format.
|> 2) As to the environment, I'm running a webserver and
mailserver, thus many
|> user accounts as a consequence and all are shells they can use
to
|> telnet/FTP to their homedir.
ouch.
|> 3) The ProFTP has this config setting on user:group and <Dir>
setting &
|> wonder if this is a possible conflict??:
|> PROFTP.CONF:
|> # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at.
|> User sageame
|> Group wheel
The people at proftpd allow ways to run the daemon as a non-root
user, but advise against it for various reasons. They also claim
that it is actually more secure to run it as root for reasons
that I cannot recall at this moment, but their reasoning seemed
fairly valid at the time that I read it.
|> # Normally, we want files to be overwriteable.
|> <Directory /*>
|> AllowOverwrite on
|> </Directory>
That`s okay. Sort of....... I would contemplate however that even
though your users are in a pseudo-chroot-jail, finding out if you
could change it to somethine similar to ~ as well.
|> As I now notice, would the above user"group conflicts with
Apache's www:www.
That doesn`t make any difference whatsoever.
|> 4) ...and yes, the docroots are all recursively owned by www
Ay, there`s the rub. How is a user supposed to modify their files
if they down`t own them????? This hurts my brain.
|> 5) Also FP writes okay to the present settings of www:www.....
just can't
|> get FTP to cooperate.
Precedence. FTP is is what you should get to work. THEN get the
M$ sh*t to play nicely with FTP and everything else.
|> 6) I can make the www/vhost1 a user account so that FTP lands
there at
|> login... just have that write problem. Should ProFTP be set to
www:www
|> too... possibly?
NO.
Remember unless you`re gonna get into some weird *NIX
group-type-stuff, or make everything world writeable... typically
a user must own a file in order to modify it (i.e. the 7 in chmod
755 *).
Good luck. And fell free to join the
proftp-user(AT)lists.sourceforge.net list or contact me
privately. I WILL NOT be posting off-topic to this list anymore.
Thank You.
--
Timothy G. Wesemann
Voicenet Systems Administration
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>; <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
| Hi, Timothy: Sorry if this is the wrong list, but actually,
since I'm
| unsure of what will allow things to work the way I described, I
wasn't sure
| what controlled the permissions needed. Sort of thought it
might be
| Apache's <Directory> stuff.
|
| Thanks for your questions to clarify more. Here's what I have
now:
|
| 1) Yes, in ProFTP config, I have the "DefaultRoot ~" set so
that user land
| in their own user accounts but cannot see other user
accounts/directories.
|
| 2) As to the environment, I'm running a webserver and
mailserver, thus many
| user accounts as a consequence and all are shells they can use
to
| telnet/FTP to their homedir.
|
| 3) The ProFTP has this config setting on user:group and <Dir>
setting &
| wonder if this is a possible conflict??:
| PROFTP.CONF:
| # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at.
| User sageame
| Group wheel
|
| # Normally, we want files to be overwriteable.
| <Directory /*>
| AllowOverwrite on
| </Directory>
|
| As I now notice, would the above user"group conflicts with
Apache's www:www.
|
| 4) ...and yes, the docroots are all recursively owned by www
|
| 5) Also FP writes okay to the present settings of www:www.....
just can't
| get FTP to cooperate.
|
| 6) I can make the www/vhost1 a user account so that FTP lands
there at
| login... just have that write problem. Should ProFTP be set to
www:www
| too... possibly?
|
| At 10:49 AM 5.7.2002 -0400, Timothy G. Wesemann wrote:
| >Jack,
| >
| >First off, I think your question might be better suited for
| >proftp-user(AT)lists.sourceforge.net. However, with that said
I`d
| >like to get a better idea of what you`re working with. In your
| >proftpd.conf, do you have something similar to "DefaultRoot
~",
| >if so what type of environment is this server running (i.e.
only
| >webserving, or are your user homedirs with mail and what not
| >being mounted on this machine?). Are you running in a yp/NIS+
| >environment and cannot modify the homedir`s? Are you NFS
mounting
| >homedirs on another device with a seperate authentication
means
| >on this machine so that the users can have different homedirs
on
| >this particular machine and now the users have different UID`s
in
| >different places? If you can get the customer into their
docroot
| >via FTP, then why doesn`t a user own their own files/dirs in
| >/usr/local/www/./vhost1/? Is the filesystem not allowing the
user
| >to write there, or is it a function of proftpd that I am
unaware
| >of? Are you setting up the FP permissions of that other than
the
| >user themself? (beware of chown-happy FP)... Are the docroots
| >recursively owned by www???
| >
| >--
| >Timothy G. Wesemann
| >Voicenet Systems Administration
| >
| >
| >----- Original Message -----
| >From: "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>
| >To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
| >Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:35 AM
| >Subject: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
| >
| >
| >| I'm running FBSD 4.5 and migrating several virtual host
| >domains/websites
| >| from a BDSi server and have what is probably a very basic
| >question about
| >| how to provide access to the virtual host's site via FTP
(and
| >using
| >| FrontPage as well). I did not handle such details at the old
| >server, but do
| >| now and want to set up the vhosts properly so the access is
| >similar as before.
| >|
| >| I do not place the vhost in user accounts. The document
paths
| >are
| >| structured as follows:
| >|
| >| /usr/local/www/maindomain
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost1
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost2
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost3 ....and so forth.
| >|
| >| Apache is set up for the main domain a a couple of the
vhosts
| >already, but
| >| they belong to me and I don't have any access problems,
being
| >the super
| >| user. Also, FrontPage2000 sets up and publishes fine. The
user
| >and group
| >| for Apache and FP is set to www:www.
| >|
| >| Now, however, I'm getting ready to move domains that belong
to
| >others
| >| without access except through FTP and Frontpage, but most
don't
| >want to use
| >| Frontpage and prefer FTP to upload content that has been
| >produced on their
| >| local machines. Fairly common method I imagine.
| >|
| >| I have fiddled with a test domain that I set up as a vhost
to
| >see how it
| >| could be accessed via FTP. BTW, my FTP is ProFTPD and is set
so
| >that the
| >| user only sees the contents that belong to them and so the
| >"root" they
| >| login to has to be a user account. In order to FTP login at
the
| >root of the
| >| vhost, I have to set up a "user" in the name of the vhost,
BUT,
| >cannot FTP
| >| upload/download to it because of permissions apparently.
| >|
| >| The obvious question I have is with the above setup, how do
I
| >give the
| >| vhost user access to the root of his "root" that would
appear
| >like this and
| >| he would see all of the content/directories contained below:
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost1/
| >| ...and point of entry would be /usr/local/www/vhost1/
| >|
| >| Better yet, to be identical to the old server setup, the
path
| >would be:
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost/data ...and the CGI directory is
| >accessible as:
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost/cgi-bin
| >| The user's FTP point of entry must still be:
| >| /usr/local/www/vhost/
| >| ...and be writable for that user.
| >|
| >| Again, Apache is set to www:www (and so is FP2000)
| >|
| >| Please help me with proper solutions to how to give the
"Vuser"
| >access via
| >| FTP....??? Thanks in advance for any help.
| >|
| >| .... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/
| >|
| >| Best regards,
| >|
| >| Jack L. Stone
| >| Server Admin
| >|
|
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| .... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/
|
| Best regards,
|
| Jack L. Stone
| Server Admin
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PHP/Apache 2.0.36 problems with Flash XML-RPC client
Posted by Jess Planck <ev...@mac.com>.
I am going to get shot for this cross-post, please accept my apologies!
I've been toying around with building a Flash XML-RPC client that will
work with the HPE portal system (http://sourceforge.net/projects/hpe).
I am also doing testing of PHP and Apache2. This server is built with
Apache 2.0.36 and the latest PHP snapshot. So far most of my issues have
been solved, and most of the scripts seem to be working very well!
The Flash XML-RPC client is incredibly slow or inactive with current
installation... I know Flash sucks, and I'm going to get flamed, but the
weird part is that if I restart Apache the XML-RPC client instantly
works and get's the data... It could be something in the script... could
be something in Flash... But if I go back to 1.3.24 there are no
problems... The Flash client also works locally, but as a "plugin" is
when it starts having problems. Is flash sending some header stuff when
used through the plugin that Apache or PHP just hates? Notice the
differences between the requests from the plugin version and the
stand-alone local version.
From the log....
207.191.116.186 - - [07/May/2002:10:33:36 -0500] "POST /RPC HTTP/1.1"
200 3676
later with local flash file...
207.191.116.186 - - [07/May/2002:10:45:15 -0500] "POST /RPC HTTP/1.1"
200 3676
207.191.116.186 - - [07/May/2002:10:45:54 -0500] "POST /RPC HTTP/1.0"
200 3676
The client get's an answer almost exactly 5 minutes later when used
through a browser plug-in.
You can try it out at http://www.funroe.net.
jess.
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Re: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
Posted by "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>.
Hi, Timothy: Sorry if this is the wrong list, but actually, since I'm
unsure of what will allow things to work the way I described, I wasn't sure
what controlled the permissions needed. Sort of thought it might be
Apache's <Directory> stuff.
Thanks for your questions to clarify more. Here's what I have now:
1) Yes, in ProFTP config, I have the "DefaultRoot ~" set so that user land
in their own user accounts but cannot see other user accounts/directories.
2) As to the environment, I'm running a webserver and mailserver, thus many
user accounts as a consequence and all are shells they can use to
telnet/FTP to their homedir.
3) The ProFTP has this config setting on user:group and <Dir> setting &
wonder if this is a possible conflict??:
PROFTP.CONF:
# Set the user and group that the server normally runs at.
User sageame
Group wheel
# Normally, we want files to be overwriteable.
<Directory /*>
AllowOverwrite on
</Directory>
As I now notice, would the above user"group conflicts with Apache's www:www.
4) ...and yes, the docroots are all recursively owned by www
5) Also FP writes okay to the present settings of www:www..... just can't
get FTP to cooperate.
6) I can make the www/vhost1 a user account so that FTP lands there at
login... just have that write problem. Should ProFTP be set to www:www
too... possibly?
At 10:49 AM 5.7.2002 -0400, Timothy G. Wesemann wrote:
>Jack,
>
>First off, I think your question might be better suited for
>proftp-user(AT)lists.sourceforge.net. However, with that said I`d
>like to get a better idea of what you`re working with. In your
>proftpd.conf, do you have something similar to "DefaultRoot ~",
>if so what type of environment is this server running (i.e. only
>webserving, or are your user homedirs with mail and what not
>being mounted on this machine?). Are you running in a yp/NIS+
>environment and cannot modify the homedir`s? Are you NFS mounting
>homedirs on another device with a seperate authentication means
>on this machine so that the users can have different homedirs on
>this particular machine and now the users have different UID`s in
>different places? If you can get the customer into their docroot
>via FTP, then why doesn`t a user own their own files/dirs in
>/usr/local/www/./vhost1/? Is the filesystem not allowing the user
>to write there, or is it a function of proftpd that I am unaware
>of? Are you setting up the FP permissions of that other than the
>user themself? (beware of chown-happy FP)... Are the docroots
>recursively owned by www???
>
>--
>Timothy G. Wesemann
>Voicenet Systems Administration
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>
>To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:35 AM
>Subject: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
>
>
>| I'm running FBSD 4.5 and migrating several virtual host
>domains/websites
>| from a BDSi server and have what is probably a very basic
>question about
>| how to provide access to the virtual host's site via FTP (and
>using
>| FrontPage as well). I did not handle such details at the old
>server, but do
>| now and want to set up the vhosts properly so the access is
>similar as before.
>|
>| I do not place the vhost in user accounts. The document paths
>are
>| structured as follows:
>|
>| /usr/local/www/maindomain
>| /usr/local/www/vhost1
>| /usr/local/www/vhost2
>| /usr/local/www/vhost3 ....and so forth.
>|
>| Apache is set up for the main domain a a couple of the vhosts
>already, but
>| they belong to me and I don't have any access problems, being
>the super
>| user. Also, FrontPage2000 sets up and publishes fine. The user
>and group
>| for Apache and FP is set to www:www.
>|
>| Now, however, I'm getting ready to move domains that belong to
>others
>| without access except through FTP and Frontpage, but most don't
>want to use
>| Frontpage and prefer FTP to upload content that has been
>produced on their
>| local machines. Fairly common method I imagine.
>|
>| I have fiddled with a test domain that I set up as a vhost to
>see how it
>| could be accessed via FTP. BTW, my FTP is ProFTPD and is set so
>that the
>| user only sees the contents that belong to them and so the
>"root" they
>| login to has to be a user account. In order to FTP login at the
>root of the
>| vhost, I have to set up a "user" in the name of the vhost, BUT,
>cannot FTP
>| upload/download to it because of permissions apparently.
>|
>| The obvious question I have is with the above setup, how do I
>give the
>| vhost user access to the root of his "root" that would appear
>like this and
>| he would see all of the content/directories contained below:
>| /usr/local/www/vhost1/
>| ...and point of entry would be /usr/local/www/vhost1/
>|
>| Better yet, to be identical to the old server setup, the path
>would be:
>| /usr/local/www/vhost/data ...and the CGI directory is
>accessible as:
>| /usr/local/www/vhost/cgi-bin
>| The user's FTP point of entry must still be:
>| /usr/local/www/vhost/
>| ...and be writable for that user.
>|
>| Again, Apache is set to www:www (and so is FP2000)
>|
>| Please help me with proper solutions to how to give the "Vuser"
>access via
>| FTP....??? Thanks in advance for any help.
>|
>| .... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/
>|
>| Best regards,
>|
>| Jack L. Stone
>| Server Admin
>|
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>|
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Re: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
Posted by "Timothy G. Wesemann" <ti...@voicenet.com>.
Jack,
First off, I think your question might be better suited for
proftp-user(AT)lists.sourceforge.net. However, with that said I`d
like to get a better idea of what you`re working with. In your
proftpd.conf, do you have something similar to "DefaultRoot ~",
if so what type of environment is this server running (i.e. only
webserving, or are your user homedirs with mail and what not
being mounted on this machine?). Are you running in a yp/NIS+
environment and cannot modify the homedir`s? Are you NFS mounting
homedirs on another device with a seperate authentication means
on this machine so that the users can have different homedirs on
this particular machine and now the users have different UID`s in
different places? If you can get the customer into their docroot
via FTP, then why doesn`t a user own their own files/dirs in
/usr/local/www/./vhost1/? Is the filesystem not allowing the user
to write there, or is it a function of proftpd that I am unaware
of? Are you setting up the FP permissions of that other than the
user themself? (beware of chown-happy FP)... Are the docroots
recursively owned by www???
--
Timothy G. Wesemann
Voicenet Systems Administration
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: FTP permissions to Apache Vhost
| I'm running FBSD 4.5 and migrating several virtual host
domains/websites
| from a BDSi server and have what is probably a very basic
question about
| how to provide access to the virtual host's site via FTP (and
using
| FrontPage as well). I did not handle such details at the old
server, but do
| now and want to set up the vhosts properly so the access is
similar as before.
|
| I do not place the vhost in user accounts. The document paths
are
| structured as follows:
|
| /usr/local/www/maindomain
| /usr/local/www/vhost1
| /usr/local/www/vhost2
| /usr/local/www/vhost3 ....and so forth.
|
| Apache is set up for the main domain a a couple of the vhosts
already, but
| they belong to me and I don't have any access problems, being
the super
| user. Also, FrontPage2000 sets up and publishes fine. The user
and group
| for Apache and FP is set to www:www.
|
| Now, however, I'm getting ready to move domains that belong to
others
| without access except through FTP and Frontpage, but most don't
want to use
| Frontpage and prefer FTP to upload content that has been
produced on their
| local machines. Fairly common method I imagine.
|
| I have fiddled with a test domain that I set up as a vhost to
see how it
| could be accessed via FTP. BTW, my FTP is ProFTPD and is set so
that the
| user only sees the contents that belong to them and so the
"root" they
| login to has to be a user account. In order to FTP login at the
root of the
| vhost, I have to set up a "user" in the name of the vhost, BUT,
cannot FTP
| upload/download to it because of permissions apparently.
|
| The obvious question I have is with the above setup, how do I
give the
| vhost user access to the root of his "root" that would appear
like this and
| he would see all of the content/directories contained below:
| /usr/local/www/vhost1/
| ...and point of entry would be /usr/local/www/vhost1/
|
| Better yet, to be identical to the old server setup, the path
would be:
| /usr/local/www/vhost/data ...and the CGI directory is
accessible as:
| /usr/local/www/vhost/cgi-bin
| The user's FTP point of entry must still be:
| /usr/local/www/vhost/
| ...and be writable for that user.
|
| Again, Apache is set to www:www (and so is FP2000)
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| Please help me with proper solutions to how to give the "Vuser"
access via
| FTP....??? Thanks in advance for any help.
|
| .... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/
|
| Best regards,
|
| Jack L. Stone
| Server Admin
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Re: Win32: Version 2.0.36 is slow ??
Posted by "firepages.com.au" <fi...@firepages.com.au>.
Hi Thor...
I have found exactly the opposite ;) - really ,with PHP4 + a basic config on
a 2K box not much faster than yours & with less memory I find 2.0.36 as fast
as I expected 2.0.35 to be (which it was not)
Nor has it yet to die on me which 2.0.35 did quite often especially with
very large or very small files (? go figure!)
At this early stage I am a very happy chappy and am experiencing the speed
increase that I have heard about but had not yet seen on Win32
Regards,
Simon Wheeler
firepages
From: "Thor" <th...@gmx.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:41 PM
Subject: Win32: Version 2.0.36 is slow ??
>
>
> I just removed version 2.0.35 and installed 2.0.36 and the new version
> seems to be quite a bit slower (about half speed). The server and
> client/browser are on the same LAN, yet it seems like the connection is
> over a 56k modem...
>
> Anyone else experienced this?
>
> My server is a PII 233MHz, 256Mb RAM, Win2000 Professional
>
>
>
>
> "...if the US Government were ever to get really serious about Internet
> security, the top players in Microsoft's management hierarchy would find
> themselves handcuffed, blindfolded, led onto a tarmac within some
> obscure Air Force base, and shot."
>
> -- Thomas C Greene (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23223.html)
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Win32: Version 2.0.36 is slow ??
Posted by Thor <th...@gmx.net>.
I just removed version 2.0.35 and installed 2.0.36 and the new version
seems to be quite a bit slower (about half speed). The server and
client/browser are on the same LAN, yet it seems like the connection is
over a 56k modem...
Anyone else experienced this?
My server is a PII 233MHz, 256Mb RAM, Win2000 Professional
"...if the US Government were ever to get really serious about Internet
security, the top players in Microsoft's management hierarchy would find
themselves handcuffed, blindfolded, led onto a tarmac within some
obscure Air Force base, and shot."
-- Thomas C Greene (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23223.html)
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