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Posted to dev@avalon.apache.org by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org> on 2001/11/20 14:53:04 UTC

Jealous of the introductions :-)

All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
work ;P

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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@socialchange.net.au>.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:23:14AM -0500, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Stephen McConnell wrote:
> 
> > Yeah .. +1 on that!
> 
> 
> I guess I only needed one :)
> 
> My name is Berin Loritsch, knocking on 30's door (I'm young aren't I?).
> I live in Virginia in the good ol' USA.  I started out typing in programs
> from Commander magazine for the Commodore 64.

Yes!! ;) Same story here, though it was BASIC on a ZX Spectrum. "Daddy, what
does 'poke' do?" etc.

> It didn't take long to
> realize that BASIC was too slow, and the programs written in assembly
> were much faster.

I went on to logo.. I could make that turtle fly ;)

> So I got an assembler, a dissassembler, and got to
> work reverse engineering some software and making some of my own.  Since
> I like graphics more, I was one of the first to get GeOS (Graphical OS)
> for the C-64.  It's Assembly API was the best I've seen yet.  My first
> corporate job was an R&D assistant for Systar, Inc. (a French company).
> While I was there I goofed off, wrote my first game, and had my introduction
> to designing a database application.  I left that job to go to school.
> 
> I've always been into the musical arts, but I can't sing and I can't
> play any instruments--so I learned to record.

Hmm.. there was a whole fascinating demo scene for people like you :) Tightly
interwoven asm + graphics + music.. if there's a higher form of art, I haven't
found it yet. 

Whoops, company going under, gotta get coding :)


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RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Gerhard Froehlich <g-...@gmx.de>.
No doubt sir, that's really a masters life ;)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:23 PM
>To: Avalon Developers List
>Subject: Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)
>
>
>Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
>> Yeah .. +1 on that!
>
>
>I guess I only needed one :)
>
>My name is Berin Loritsch, knocking on 30's door (I'm young aren't I?).
>I live in Virginia in the good ol' USA.  I started out typing in programs
>>from Commander magazine for the Commodore 64.  It didn't take long to
>realize that BASIC was too slow, and the programs written in assembly
>were much faster.  So I got an assembler, a dissassembler, and got to
>work reverse engineering some software and making some of my own.  Since
>I like graphics more, I was one of the first to get GeOS (Graphical OS)
>for the C-64.  It's Assembly API was the best I've seen yet.  My first
>corporate job was an R&D assistant for Systar, Inc. (a French company).
>While I was there I goofed off, wrote my first game, and had my introduction
>to designing a database application.  I left that job to go to school.
>
>I've always been into the musical arts, but I can't sing and I can't
>play any instruments--so I learned to record.  I went to Full Sail
>Center for the Recording Arts, which has nothing to do with programming--
>although the section on practical troubleshooting was better than I've
>heard for any other course of study.  When you are paying over $200 an
>hour and some equipment breaks, you have to fix it fast.
>
>When I got back from school, I set out to find a job in the field I studied
>
>for (don't we all?).  In the mean time, I was temping as an administrative
>assistant.  Then I had two offers: studio manager for $6.00/hour or admin
>for $22500/year.  Being the smart person I was, I went for more money.  It
>didn't take long to get bored with the job, so when they introduced the
>internet to the office, I found out about Linux, the Free Software Foundation,
>and Open Source.  I knew I needed some new skills, and I have been itching
>to learn C++, so I got a copy of Linux to learn.  I couldn't see spending
>over $600 for a compiler back then.  In the process I learned UNIX
>administration, how to compile a kernel, and how to really skrew up a
>Linux install in five easy steps.
>
>Professionally, I got involved in the PC service center, became an
>"environment specialist" (not an admin, but not a full fledged technical
>person either) and set up the processes for borrowing computers, and keeping
>inventory.  I got another division interested in me, and I designed 3
>database systems and a software defect tracking tool.  I got my first
>official experience as a professional programmer there--though I didn't
>go beyond making simple tools.
>
>I moved from that company (woefully underpaying me), to the one I work for
>now, that is very sympathetic to OSS--especially when it helps us make better
>products.  I helped them with a coldfusion application, and after a painful
>migration of no less than 3 different styles for the same app to one I found
>out about Cocoon.  I did a quick demo of what Cocoon could do for them, and
>got their interest.  I went from Cocoon to Avalon and back to Cocoon (version 2).
> From that point on, I have been involved in Avalon, Cocoon, JMeter, Axis,
>and a couple projects that I started.
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>
>"Those who would trade liberty for
>  temporary security deserve neither"
>                 - Benjamin Franklin
>
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Stephen McConnell wrote:

> Yeah .. +1 on that!


I guess I only needed one :)

My name is Berin Loritsch, knocking on 30's door (I'm young aren't I?).
I live in Virginia in the good ol' USA.  I started out typing in programs
from Commander magazine for the Commodore 64.  It didn't take long to
realize that BASIC was too slow, and the programs written in assembly
were much faster.  So I got an assembler, a dissassembler, and got to
work reverse engineering some software and making some of my own.  Since
I like graphics more, I was one of the first to get GeOS (Graphical OS)
for the C-64.  It's Assembly API was the best I've seen yet.  My first
corporate job was an R&D assistant for Systar, Inc. (a French company).
While I was there I goofed off, wrote my first game, and had my introduction
to designing a database application.  I left that job to go to school.

I've always been into the musical arts, but I can't sing and I can't
play any instruments--so I learned to record.  I went to Full Sail
Center for the Recording Arts, which has nothing to do with programming--
although the section on practical troubleshooting was better than I've
heard for any other course of study.  When you are paying over $200 an
hour and some equipment breaks, you have to fix it fast.

When I got back from school, I set out to find a job in the field I studied

for (don't we all?).  In the mean time, I was temping as an administrative
assistant.  Then I had two offers: studio manager for $6.00/hour or admin
for $22500/year.  Being the smart person I was, I went for more money.  It
didn't take long to get bored with the job, so when they introduced the
internet to the office, I found out about Linux, the Free Software Foundation,
and Open Source.  I knew I needed some new skills, and I have been itching
to learn C++, so I got a copy of Linux to learn.  I couldn't see spending
over $600 for a compiler back then.  In the process I learned UNIX
administration, how to compile a kernel, and how to really skrew up a
Linux install in five easy steps.

Professionally, I got involved in the PC service center, became an
"environment specialist" (not an admin, but not a full fledged technical
person either) and set up the processes for borrowing computers, and keeping
inventory.  I got another division interested in me, and I designed 3
database systems and a software defect tracking tool.  I got my first
official experience as a professional programmer there--though I didn't
go beyond making simple tools.

I moved from that company (woefully underpaying me), to the one I work for
now, that is very sympathetic to OSS--especially when it helps us make better
products.  I helped them with a coldfusion application, and after a painful
migration of no less than 3 different styles for the same app to one I found
out about Cocoon.  I did a quick demo of what Cocoon could do for them, and
got their interest.  I went from Cocoon to Avalon and back to Cocoon (version 2).
 From that point on, I have been involved in Avalon, Cocoon, JMeter, Axis,
and a couple projects that I started.




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RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@dff.st>.
Another +1 from me :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:mcconnell@osm.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:55 PM
> To: Avalon Developers List
> Subject: RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah .. +1 on that!
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2001 14:53
> > To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org; avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: Jealous of the introductions :-)
> > 
> > 
> > All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
> > are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
> > time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
> > if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
> > to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
> > work ;P
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > "Those who would trade liberty for
> >   temporary security deserve neither"
> >                  - Benjamin Franklin


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RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@osm.net>.
Yeah .. +1 on that!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2001 14:53
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org; avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Jealous of the introductions :-)
> 
> 
> All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
> are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
> time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
> if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
> to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
> work ;P
> 
> -- 
> 
> "Those who would trade liberty for
>   temporary security deserve neither"
>                  - Benjamin Franklin
> 
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:

> All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
> are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
> time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
> if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
> to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
> work ;P

+1, I don't want to stop you ;)

Giacomo


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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:

> All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
> are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
> time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
> if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
> to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
> work ;P

+1, I don't want to stop you ;)

Giacomo


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RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Gerhard Froehlich <g-...@gmx.de>.
+1 wanna hear

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:53 PM
>To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org; avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>Subject: Jealous of the introductions :-)
>
>
>All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
>are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
>time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
>if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
>to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
>work ;P
>
>-- 
>
>"Those who would trade liberty for
>  temporary security deserve neither"
>                 - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Sylvain Wallez wrote:

> Hey, take the plug and go on :)
> 
> I like those mini-bios. This helps knowing each other better and
> increases the strength of the community. It's not that easy to work
> closely on a project with people that we've never seen IRL !

Yep. Even if, in my experience, people that go along well IVL (in
virtual life) go along well even IRL. Hope to show you this in the next
Apache conference.

> And I'm sure many people (including me) want to know more about the
> mythical Stefano Mazzochi ;)

mythical? oh, please :)

As I told Ricardo once, I'm not famous, I just happen to be known.

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                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@anyware-tech.com>.

Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit :
> 
> Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >
> > Gerhard Froehlich wrote:
> >
> > > +1 wanna hear
> >
> > I guess I only needed one :)
> 
> God, talking about ego show-off :)

<snipped-berin's-nice-intro/>

> One day, one day, I'll show how I managed to stack 20 years of computer
> programming in my 26 years-old brain :)
> 
> [I know, I know, this is a shameless plug but Berin asked for it :)]

Hey, take the plug and go on :)

I like those mini-bios. This helps knowing each other better and
increases the strength of the community. It's not that easy to work
closely on a project with people that we've never seen IRL !

And I'm sure many people (including me) want to know more about the
mythical Stefano Mazzochi ;)

Sylvain

> --
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>                           able to give birth to a dancing star.
> <st...@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche

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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Berin Loritsch wrote:
> 
> Gerhard Froehlich wrote:
> 
> > +1 wanna hear
> 
> I guess I only needed one :)

God, talking about ego show-off :)

> My name is Berin Loritsch, knocking on 30's door (I'm young aren't I?).
> I live in Virginia in the good ol' USA.  I started out typing in programs
> from Commander magazine for the Commodore 64.  It didn't take long to
> realize that BASIC was too slow, and the programs written in assembly
> were much faster.  So I got an assembler, a dissassembler, and got to
> work reverse engineering some software and making some of my own.  Since
> I like graphics more, I was one of the first to get GeOS (Graphical OS)
> for the C-64.  It's Assembly API was the best I've seen yet.  My first
> corporate job was an R&D assistant for Systar, Inc. (a French company).
> While I was there I goofed off, wrote my first game, and had my introduction
> to designing a database application.  I left that job to go to school.
> 
> I've always been into the musical arts, but I can't sing and I can't
> play any instruments--so I learned to record.  I went to Full Sail
> Center for the Recording Arts, which has nothing to do with programming--
> although the section on practical troubleshooting was better than I've
> heard for any other course of study.  When you are paying over $200 an
> hour and some equipment breaks, you have to fix it fast.
> 
> When I got back from school, I set out to find a job in the field I studied
> 
> for (don't we all?).  In the mean time, I was temping as an administrative
> assistant.  Then I had two offers: studio manager for $6.00/hour or admin
> for $22500/year.  Being the smart person I was, I went for more money.  It
> didn't take long to get bored with the job, so when they introduced the
> internet to the office, I found out about Linux, the Free Software Foundation,
> and Open Source.  I knew I needed some new skills, and I have been itching
> to learn C++, so I got a copy of Linux to learn.  I couldn't see spending
> over $600 for a compiler back then.  In the process I learned UNIX
> administration, how to compile a kernel, and how to really skrew up a
> Linux install in five easy steps.
> 
> Professionally, I got involved in the PC service center, became an
> "environment specialist" (not an admin, but not a full fledged technical
> person either) and set up the processes for borrowing computers, and keeping
> inventory.  I got another division interested in me, and I designed 3
> database systems and a software defect tracking tool.  I got my first
> official experience as a professional programmer there--though I didn't
> go beyond making simple tools.
> 
> I moved from that company (woefully underpaying me), to the one I work for
> now, that is very sympathetic to OSS--especially when it helps us make better
> products.  I helped them with a coldfusion application, and after a painful
> migration of no less than 3 different styles for the same app to one I found
> out about Cocoon.  I did a quick demo of what Cocoon could do for them, and
> got their interest.  I went from Cocoon to Avalon and back to Cocoon (version 2).
>  From that point on, I have been involved in Avalon, Cocoon, JMeter, Axis,
> and a couple projects that I started.

One day, one day, I'll show how I managed to stack 20 years of computer
programming in my 26 years-old brain :)

[I know, I know, this is a shameless plug but Berin asked for it :)]

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Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Per-Olof Norén <pe...@alma.nu>.
It is me who should apologize, I didn´t see you posting an intro before
sending my +1.
dp is a typo for do :-)

Random thoughts about theese intros in general:
In postgresql they have published theese intros on their pages.
Maybe this is useful for pointing messages in the list to the person
who is likely to know the issue.
Of course this info can be found in the @author in the javadocs or by
searching the mail-archives,
but it would be easier to just look at a web-page :-)

/Per-Olof

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Subject: Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)


> Per-Olof Norén wrote:
>
> > +1 Very exited. Please dp :-)
> >
>
>
> dp
>
> Sorry, I am still catching up on net lingo.
>
>
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Per-Olof Norén wrote:

> +1 Very exited. Please dp :-)
> 


dp?

Sorry, I am still catching up on net lingo.


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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Per-Olof Norén <pe...@alma.nu>.
+1 Very exited. Please dp :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Berin Loritsch" <bl...@apache.org>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)


> Gerhard Froehlich wrote:
>
> > +1 wanna hear
>
> I guess I only needed one :)
>
> My name is Berin Loritsch, knocking on 30's door (I'm young aren't I?).
> I live in Virginia in the good ol' USA.  I started out typing in programs
> from Commander magazine for the Commodore 64.  It didn't take long to
> realize that BASIC was too slow, and the programs written in assembly
> were much faster.  So I got an assembler, a dissassembler, and got to
> work reverse engineering some software and making some of my own.  Since
> I like graphics more, I was one of the first to get GeOS (Graphical OS)
> for the C-64.  It's Assembly API was the best I've seen yet.  My first
> corporate job was an R&D assistant for Systar, Inc. (a French company).
> While I was there I goofed off, wrote my first game, and had my
introduction
> to designing a database application.  I left that job to go to school.
>
> I've always been into the musical arts, but I can't sing and I can't
> play any instruments--so I learned to record.  I went to Full Sail
> Center for the Recording Arts, which has nothing to do with programming--
> although the section on practical troubleshooting was better than I've
> heard for any other course of study.  When you are paying over $200 an
> hour and some equipment breaks, you have to fix it fast.
>
> When I got back from school, I set out to find a job in the field I
studied
>
> for (don't we all?).  In the mean time, I was temping as an administrative
> assistant.  Then I had two offers: studio manager for $6.00/hour or admin
> for $22500/year.  Being the smart person I was, I went for more money.  It
> didn't take long to get bored with the job, so when they introduced the
> internet to the office, I found out about Linux, the Free Software
Foundation,
> and Open Source.  I knew I needed some new skills, and I have been itching
> to learn C++, so I got a copy of Linux to learn.  I couldn't see spending
> over $600 for a compiler back then.  In the process I learned UNIX
> administration, how to compile a kernel, and how to really skrew up a
> Linux install in five easy steps.
>
> Professionally, I got involved in the PC service center, became an
> "environment specialist" (not an admin, but not a full fledged technical
> person either) and set up the processes for borrowing computers, and
keeping
> inventory.  I got another division interested in me, and I designed 3
> database systems and a software defect tracking tool.  I got my first
> official experience as a professional programmer there--though I didn't
> go beyond making simple tools.
>
> I moved from that company (woefully underpaying me), to the one I work for
> now, that is very sympathetic to OSS--especially when it helps us make
better
> products.  I helped them with a coldfusion application, and after a
painful
> migration of no less than 3 different styles for the same app to one I
found
> out about Cocoon.  I did a quick demo of what Cocoon could do for them,
and
> got their interest.  I went from Cocoon to Avalon and back to Cocoon
(version 2).
>  From that point on, I have been involved in Avalon, Cocoon, JMeter, Axis,
> and a couple projects that I started.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "Those who would trade liberty for
>   temporary security deserve neither"
>                  - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
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Re: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Gerhard Froehlich wrote:

> +1 wanna hear

I guess I only needed one :)

My name is Berin Loritsch, knocking on 30's door (I'm young aren't I?).
I live in Virginia in the good ol' USA.  I started out typing in programs
from Commander magazine for the Commodore 64.  It didn't take long to
realize that BASIC was too slow, and the programs written in assembly
were much faster.  So I got an assembler, a dissassembler, and got to
work reverse engineering some software and making some of my own.  Since
I like graphics more, I was one of the first to get GeOS (Graphical OS)
for the C-64.  It's Assembly API was the best I've seen yet.  My first
corporate job was an R&D assistant for Systar, Inc. (a French company).
While I was there I goofed off, wrote my first game, and had my introduction
to designing a database application.  I left that job to go to school.

I've always been into the musical arts, but I can't sing and I can't
play any instruments--so I learned to record.  I went to Full Sail
Center for the Recording Arts, which has nothing to do with programming--
although the section on practical troubleshooting was better than I've
heard for any other course of study.  When you are paying over $200 an
hour and some equipment breaks, you have to fix it fast.

When I got back from school, I set out to find a job in the field I studied

for (don't we all?).  In the mean time, I was temping as an administrative
assistant.  Then I had two offers: studio manager for $6.00/hour or admin
for $22500/year.  Being the smart person I was, I went for more money.  It
didn't take long to get bored with the job, so when they introduced the
internet to the office, I found out about Linux, the Free Software Foundation,
and Open Source.  I knew I needed some new skills, and I have been itching
to learn C++, so I got a copy of Linux to learn.  I couldn't see spending
over $600 for a compiler back then.  In the process I learned UNIX
administration, how to compile a kernel, and how to really skrew up a
Linux install in five easy steps.

Professionally, I got involved in the PC service center, became an
"environment specialist" (not an admin, but not a full fledged technical
person either) and set up the processes for borrowing computers, and keeping
inventory.  I got another division interested in me, and I designed 3
database systems and a software defect tracking tool.  I got my first
official experience as a professional programmer there--though I didn't
go beyond making simple tools.

I moved from that company (woefully underpaying me), to the one I work for
now, that is very sympathetic to OSS--especially when it helps us make better
products.  I helped them with a coldfusion application, and after a painful
migration of no less than 3 different styles for the same app to one I found
out about Cocoon.  I did a quick demo of what Cocoon could do for them, and
got their interest.  I went from Cocoon to Avalon and back to Cocoon (version 2).
 From that point on, I have been involved in Avalon, Cocoon, JMeter, Axis,
and a couple projects that I started.




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"Those who would trade liberty for
  temporary security deserve neither"
                 - Benjamin Franklin


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RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <di...@yahoo.com>.
Yes. Please. +1.

-- dims

--- Gerhard Froehlich <g-...@gmx.de> wrote:
> +1 wanna hear
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> black holes are when GOD is dividing by zero
> 23 49 43 51 3A 20 31 32 33 35 33 34 38 31 31
> --------------------------------------------
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:53 PM
> >To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org; avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> >Subject: Jealous of the introductions :-)
> >
> >
> >All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
> >are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
> >time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
> >if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
> >to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
> >work ;P
> >
> >-- 
> >
> >"Those who would trade liberty for
> >  temporary security deserve neither"
> >                 - Benjamin Franklin
> >
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RE: Jealous of the introductions :-)

Posted by Gerhard Froehlich <g-...@gmx.de>.
+1 wanna hear

--------------------------------------------
black holes are when GOD is dividing by zero
23 49 43 51 3A 20 31 32 33 35 33 34 38 31 31
--------------------------------------------

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:53 PM
>To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org; avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org
>Subject: Jealous of the introductions :-)
>
>
>All the new kids on the block are posting these nice introductions that
>are kind of like a mini bio.  I think it's cool.  Being around for a long
>time, most of you know me in some way (yes, I have a big mouth).  Anyway,
>if I get enough +1's I can post my progress from C-64 to UNIX and admin
>to developer.  If I get silence, I'll keep my mouth shut and get back to
>work ;P
>
>-- 
>
>"Those who would trade liberty for
>  temporary security deserve neither"
>                 - Benjamin Franklin
>
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