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Derby in production environment
Hello,
I want to use Derby in a production environment and I read the following
sentence:
"The Derby database Has No Associated security controls, and no
optimizations-have-been performed. Reasons For thesis, do not use Derby in a
Production environment."
in doc
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v6r1m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.etools.mft.doc%2Fah35004_.htm
Is Derby currently being used successfully in production environments?
Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
AirDT
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RE: Derby in production environment
Posted by "John I. Moore, Jr." <so...@att.net>.
Another data point. I have been using Derby in a production environment for more than
five years. Only once did I encounter a problem, and it was quickly resolved. At some
point I will get around to adding this to the wiki list of uses of Derby.
_________________________________________
John I. Moore, Jr.
From: Brett Wooldridge [mailto:brett.wooldridge@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 6:11 AM
To: Derby Discussion
Subject: Re: Derby in production environment
There are definitely other businesses that use Derby. My company's is one, but as an
embedded database many companies do not advertise or promote the fact that they use Derby.
I can assure you that Derby is reliable and scales quite well. Just one data point to
consider.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:42 PM, AirDT <co...@solgt.fr> wrote:
Thank you for your reply Dyre
As indicated in the list
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby
many products use Derby but only one Business Application use it.
Why ?
We develop an application that uses HSQLDB today. We have about 500 users.
We fail to understand why sometimes, users lose data. We want to replace the
HSQLDB database with another database ...
AirDT
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Re: Derby in production environment
Posted by Rick Hillegas <ri...@oracle.com>.
Hi AirDT,
The following wiki page lists products which use or support Derby. This
is a community-maintained page so it's probably stale. In addition, it
only cites the tiny fraction of products which bothered to identify
themselves here: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby
Hope this helps,
-Rick
On 1/17/14 3:10 AM, Brett Wooldridge wrote:
> There are definitely other businesses that use Derby. My company's is
> one, but as an embedded database many companies do not advertise or
> promote the fact that they use Derby. I can assure you that Derby is
> reliable and scales quite well. Just one data point to consider.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:42 PM, AirDT <contact@solgt.fr
> <ma...@solgt.fr>> wrote:
>
> Thank you for your reply Dyre
>
> As indicated in the list
> http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby
>
> many products use Derby but only one Business Application use it.
> Why ?
>
> We develop an application that uses HSQLDB today. We have about
> 500 users.
> We fail to understand why sometimes, users lose data. We want to
> replace the
> HSQLDB database with another database ...
>
> AirDT
>
>
>
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> http://apache-database.10148.n7.nabble.com/Derby-in-production-environment-tp136557p136578.html
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Re: Derby in production environment
Posted by Brett Wooldridge <br...@gmail.com>.
There are definitely other businesses that use Derby. My company's is one,
but as an embedded database many companies do not advertise or promote the
fact that they use Derby. I can assure you that Derby is reliable and
scales quite well. Just one data point to consider.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:42 PM, AirDT <co...@solgt.fr> wrote:
> Thank you for your reply Dyre
>
> As indicated in the list
> http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby
>
> many products use Derby but only one Business Application use it.
> Why ?
>
> We develop an application that uses HSQLDB today. We have about 500 users.
> We fail to understand why sometimes, users lose data. We want to replace
> the
> HSQLDB database with another database ...
>
> AirDT
>
>
>
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>
Re: Derby in production environment
Posted by AirDT <co...@solgt.fr>.
Thank you for your reply Dyre
As indicated in the list
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/UsesOfDerby
many products use Derby but only one Business Application use it.
Why ?
We develop an application that uses HSQLDB today. We have about 500 users.
We fail to understand why sometimes, users lose data. We want to replace the
HSQLDB database with another database ...
AirDT
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Re: Derby in production environment
Posted by Dyre Tjeldvoll <Dy...@oracle.com>.
On 16. jan. 2014, at 15:56, Dyre Tjeldvoll <Dy...@oracle.com> wrote:
> The URL you are referring to is NOT the official Derby web page, and the statements made there are not correct for the latest version of Apache Derby. The official page can be found here
>
> http://db.apache.org/derby/
>
> Derby *is* used in production and it has security controls as described here:
>
> Configuring security for Derby
>
> I *think* that the page you refer to describe the state of a MessageBroker application running in WebSphere that *can* use Derby internally, but this configuration is not recommended for the reasons you mention.
To be clear: The statement is misleading in that it makes it sound as if Derby does not have security controls or an optimizer. In fact Derby has both, but I believe the article is trying to say that the Message Broker application does not configure the controls for Derby and they have not tuned their queries for Derby.
Regards,
Dyre
>
> Regards,
>
> Dyre
>
> On 16. jan. 2014, at 15:41, AirDT <co...@solgt.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to use Derby in a production environment and I read the following
>> sentence:
>> "The Derby database Has No Associated security controls, and no
>> optimizations-have-been performed. Reasons For thesis, do not use Derby in a
>> Production environment."
>> in doc
>> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v6r1m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.etools.mft.doc%2Fah35004_.htm
>>
>> Is Derby currently being used successfully in production environments?
>>
>> Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> AirDT
>>
>>
>>
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>
Re: Derby in production environment
Posted by Dyre Tjeldvoll <Dy...@oracle.com>.
The URL you are referring to is NOT the official Derby web page, and the statements made there are not correct for the latest version of Apache Derby. The official page can be found here
http://db.apache.org/derby/
Derby *is* used in production and it has security controls as described here:
Configuring security for Derby
I *think* that the page you refer to describe the state of a MessageBroker application running in WebSphere that *can* use Derby internally, but this configuration is not recommended for the reasons you mention.
Regards,
Dyre
On 16. jan. 2014, at 15:41, AirDT <co...@solgt.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to use Derby in a production environment and I read the following
> sentence:
> "The Derby database Has No Associated security controls, and no
> optimizations-have-been performed. Reasons For thesis, do not use Derby in a
> Production environment."
> in doc
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v6r1m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.etools.mft.doc%2Fah35004_.htm
>
> Is Derby currently being used successfully in production environments?
>
> Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
> AirDT
>
>
>
> --
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