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Posted to java-dev@axis.apache.org by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> on 2005/02/19 04:55:30 UTC
[Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Srinath,
Can you please rename:
- HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
- PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
- OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
Thanks,
dims
--
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dims
Classes are renamed and commited ..:)
we do not have interop tests yet, should we add few for M1? (it is bit
tricky as we do not have encoding offically .... we have some encoding
impl for perf test, but off the record :) )
Thanks
Srinath
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:55:30 -0500, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Srinath,
>
> Can you please rename:
> - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
>
> Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
>
> Thanks,
> dims
>
> --
> Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
yep.
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:51:18 -0500, Aleksander Slominski
<as...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> >R3 InteropTestDocLit? see http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/interop3.html
> >
> >
> just http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/InteropTestDocLit.wsdl (from
> http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/plan.html) right?
>
> alek
>
> >-- dims
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:49 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:58:14 -0500, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>IMHO, we need at least one interop test. So that people can exercise
> >>>Axis2 M1 code against their favourite server impl or client impl. It
> >>>will also weed out problems in the HTTP layer like you mentioned
> >>>(problems sending messages to Axis 1.X server?).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>We got it fixed via closing only the output for the socket .. (so I do
> >>not go to HTTP commons thingy // lets make it a post M1 TODO )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I very much like the
> >>>idea of picking say Whitemesa's web client, running it against our
> >>>server and seeing that it indeed works. As i like to say, if you have
> >>>control over both ends then you can do pretty much anything to
> >>>transfer data and claim anything you want...Interop is hard and we
> >>>need to start early.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>My call, let's add at least one standard interop
> >>>test that other vendors (and Axis 1.X) have and help kick the tires.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>What is the exact interop I should used? I am trying
> >>SOAP 1.2 ENDPOINTS IMPLEMENTING THE SOAP 1.2 TEST COLLECTION at
> >>whitemessa it has complex types ..Calanders bit tedious for donw a
> >>day or two .. is there something simpler?
> >>Thanks
> >>Srinath
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>thanks,
> >>>dims
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:32:04 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Dims
> >>>>what should we do about interops? seems it is your call!
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>Srinath
> >>>>
> >>>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:48:12 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >>>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
> >>>>>the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
> >>>>>type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
> >>>>>fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
> >>>>>damned near impossible to fail!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
> >>>>>done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
> >>>>>about it I won't get in the way!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sanjiva.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
> >>>>>Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>>>Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Sanjiva,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
> >>>>>>service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
> >>>>>>used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
> >>>>>>flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
> >>>>>>preview thingy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-- dims
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >>>>>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> >>>>>>>about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> >>>>>>>give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> >>>>>>>not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> >>>>>>>or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> >>>>>>>we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> >>>>>>>interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Sanjiva.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> >>>>>>>Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Srinath,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Can you please rename:
> >>>>>>>>- HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> >>>>>>>>- PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> >>>>>>>>- OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>dims
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
>
>
--
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Aleksander Slominski <as...@cs.indiana.edu>.
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>R3 InteropTestDocLit? see http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/interop3.html
>
>
just http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/InteropTestDocLit.wsdl (from
http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/plan.html) right?
alek
>-- dims
>
>
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:49 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:58:14 -0500, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>IMHO, we need at least one interop test. So that people can exercise
>>>Axis2 M1 code against their favourite server impl or client impl. It
>>>will also weed out problems in the HTTP layer like you mentioned
>>>(problems sending messages to Axis 1.X server?).
>>>
>>>
>>We got it fixed via closing only the output for the socket .. (so I do
>>not go to HTTP commons thingy // lets make it a post M1 TODO )
>>
>>
>>
>>>I very much like the
>>>idea of picking say Whitemesa's web client, running it against our
>>>server and seeing that it indeed works. As i like to say, if you have
>>>control over both ends then you can do pretty much anything to
>>>transfer data and claim anything you want...Interop is hard and we
>>>need to start early.
>>>
>>>
>>>My call, let's add at least one standard interop
>>>test that other vendors (and Axis 1.X) have and help kick the tires.
>>>
>>>
>>What is the exact interop I should used? I am trying
>>SOAP 1.2 ENDPOINTS IMPLEMENTING THE SOAP 1.2 TEST COLLECTION at
>>whitemessa it has complex types ..Calanders bit tedious for donw a
>>day or two .. is there something simpler?
>>Thanks
>>Srinath
>>
>>
>>
>>>thanks,
>>>dims
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:32:04 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Dims
>>>>what should we do about interops? seems it is your call!
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Srinath
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:48:12 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
>>>>>the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
>>>>>type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
>>>>>fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
>>>>>damned near impossible to fail!
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
>>>>>done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
>>>>>about it I won't get in the way!
>>>>>
>>>>>Sanjiva.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
>>>>>Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sanjiva,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
>>>>>>service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
>>>>>>used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
>>>>>>flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
>>>>>>preview thingy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- dims
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>>>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
>>>>>>>about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
>>>>>>>give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
>>>>>>>not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
>>>>>>>or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
>>>>>>>we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
>>>>>>>interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sanjiva.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Srinath,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Can you please rename:
>>>>>>>>- HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
>>>>>>>>- PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
>>>>>>>>- OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>dims
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>--
>>>Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
--
The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
R3 InteropTestDocLit? see http://www.whitemesa.com/r3/interop3.html
-- dims
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:49 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:58:14 -0500, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > IMHO, we need at least one interop test. So that people can exercise
> > Axis2 M1 code against their favourite server impl or client impl. It
> > will also weed out problems in the HTTP layer like you mentioned
> > (problems sending messages to Axis 1.X server?).
> We got it fixed via closing only the output for the socket .. (so I do
> not go to HTTP commons thingy // lets make it a post M1 TODO )
>
> >I very much like the
> > idea of picking say Whitemesa's web client, running it against our
> > server and seeing that it indeed works. As i like to say, if you have
> > control over both ends then you can do pretty much anything to
> > transfer data and claim anything you want...Interop is hard and we
> > need to start early.
>
> >My call, let's add at least one standard interop
> > test that other vendors (and Axis 1.X) have and help kick the tires.
>
> What is the exact interop I should used? I am trying
> SOAP 1.2 ENDPOINTS IMPLEMENTING THE SOAP 1.2 TEST COLLECTION at
> whitemessa it has complex types ..Calanders bit tedious for donw a
> day or two .. is there something simpler?
> Thanks
> Srinath
>
> > thanks,
> > dims
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:32:04 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Dims
> > > what should we do about interops? seems it is your call!
> > > Thanks
> > > Srinath
> > >
> > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:48:12 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > > <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > > Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
> > > > the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
> > > > type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
> > > > fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
> > > > damned near impossible to fail!
> > > >
> > > > I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
> > > > done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
> > > > about it I won't get in the way!
> > > >
> > > > Sanjiva.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
> > > > Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> > > >
> > > > > Sanjiva,
> > > > >
> > > > > We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
> > > > > service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
> > > > > used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
> > > > > flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
> > > > > preview thingy.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- dims
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > > > > <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > > > > Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> > > > > > about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> > > > > > give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> > > > > > not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> > > > > > or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> > > > > > we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> > > > > > interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sanjiva.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Srinath,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you please rename:
> > > > > > > - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > > > > - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > > > > - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > dims
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >
>
--
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:58:14 -0500, Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> IMHO, we need at least one interop test. So that people can exercise
> Axis2 M1 code against their favourite server impl or client impl. It
> will also weed out problems in the HTTP layer like you mentioned
> (problems sending messages to Axis 1.X server?).
We got it fixed via closing only the output for the socket .. (so I do
not go to HTTP commons thingy // lets make it a post M1 TODO )
>I very much like the
> idea of picking say Whitemesa's web client, running it against our
> server and seeing that it indeed works. As i like to say, if you have
> control over both ends then you can do pretty much anything to
> transfer data and claim anything you want...Interop is hard and we
> need to start early.
>My call, let's add at least one standard interop
> test that other vendors (and Axis 1.X) have and help kick the tires.
What is the exact interop I should used? I am trying
SOAP 1.2 ENDPOINTS IMPLEMENTING THE SOAP 1.2 TEST COLLECTION at
whitemessa it has complex types ..Calanders bit tedious for donw a
day or two .. is there something simpler?
Thanks
Srinath
> thanks,
> dims
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:32:04 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Dims
> > what should we do about interops? seems it is your call!
> > Thanks
> > Srinath
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:48:12 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
> > > the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
> > > type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
> > > fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
> > > damned near impossible to fail!
> > >
> > > I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
> > > done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
> > > about it I won't get in the way!
> > >
> > > Sanjiva.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
> > > Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> > >
> > > > Sanjiva,
> > > >
> > > > We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
> > > > service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
> > > > used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
> > > > flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
> > > > preview thingy.
> > > >
> > > > -- dims
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > > > <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > > > Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> > > > > about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> > > > > give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> > > > > not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> > > > > or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> > > > > we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> > > > > interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sanjiva.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Srinath,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you please rename:
> > > > > > - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > > > - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > > > - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > dims
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
IMHO, we need at least one interop test. So that people can exercise
Axis2 M1 code against their favourite server impl or client impl. It
will also weed out problems in the HTTP layer like you mentioned
(problems sending messages to Axis 1.X server?). I very much like the
idea of picking say Whitemesa's web client, running it against our
server and seeing that it indeed works. As i like to say, if you have
control over both ends then you can do pretty much anything to
transfer data and claim anything you want...Interop is hard and we
need to start early. My call, let's add at least one standard interop
test that other vendors (and Axis 1.X) have and help kick the tires.
thanks,
dims
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:32:04 +0600, Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dims
> what should we do about interops? seems it is your call!
> Thanks
> Srinath
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:48:12 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
> > the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
> > type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
> > fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
> > damned near impossible to fail!
> >
> > I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
> > done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
> > about it I won't get in the way!
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
> > Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> >
> > > Sanjiva,
> > >
> > > We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
> > > service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
> > > used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
> > > flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
> > > preview thingy.
> > >
> > > -- dims
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > > <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > > Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> > > > about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> > > > give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> > > > not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> > > > or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
> > > >
> > > > If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> > > > we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> > > > interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
> > > >
> > > > Sanjiva.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> > > > Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> > > >
> > > > > Srinath,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you please rename:
> > > > > - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > > - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > > - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> > > > >
> > > > > Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > dims
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > >
> >
>
--
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dims
what should we do about interops? seems it is your call!
Thanks
Srinath
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:48:12 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
> the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
> type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
> fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
> damned near impossible to fail!
>
> I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
> done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
> about it I won't get in the way!
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
> Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
>
> > Sanjiva,
> >
> > We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
> > service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
> > used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
> > flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
> > preview thingy.
> >
> > -- dims
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> > > about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> > > give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> > > not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> > > or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
> > >
> > > If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> > > we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> > > interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
> > >
> > > Sanjiva.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> > > Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> > >
> > > > Srinath,
> > > >
> > > > Can you please rename:
> > > > - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > > - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> > > >
> > > > Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > dims
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >
>
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Aren't samples good enough at this point? Its not a big deal to do
the interop stuff (not all, but some) .. are there doc/lit echo
type ones? Those are rather trivial to impl on the server and cannot
fail in Axis2 ;-). Client is a bit more work but also pretty
damned near impossible to fail!
I'm not happy about doing encoding interop tests when we haven't
done that bit yet (formally). However, if you are really gung ho
about it I won't get in the way!
Sanjiva.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
To: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sa...@opensource.lk>
Cc: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> Sanjiva,
>
> We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
> service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
> used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
> flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
> preview thingy.
>
> -- dims
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> > about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> > give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> > not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> > or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
> >
> > If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> > we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> > interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> > Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> >
> > > Srinath,
> > >
> > > Can you please rename:
> > > - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > > - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> > >
> > > Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > dims
> > >
> > > --
> > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Sanjiva,
We need SOME evidence we are on the right track? For me it's interop
service/client. We can write all the code we want, but if it can't be
used then it's of no use. We can put a huge disclaimer in bold,
flashing letters to send the right signal that this is just a tech
preview thingy.
-- dims
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:24:07 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
> about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
> give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
> not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
> or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
>
> If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
> we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
> interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
> To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
>
> > Srinath,
> >
> > Can you please rename:
> > - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> > - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
> >
> > Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
> >
>
--
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
Re: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Interop tests- doing interop tests will give the wrong signal
about M1 IMO. The objective of M1 IMO is to show progress and to
give (potential Axis) developers a consistent starting point. Its
not a statement of "ready-to-use"ness by any means; there may be,
or rather will be, significant/fundamental changes after M1.
If we start implementing interop tests then we're telling that
we are "production ready"! Also, without encoding support echo-style
interop is really really damned good, esp. on the server side!
Sanjiva.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davanum Srinivas" <da...@gmail.com>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: [Axis2] typos / interop tests?
> Srinath,
>
> Can you please rename:
> - HandlerMetaData.java to HandlerMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> - PhaseMetaData.java to PhaseMetadata.java (lowercase 'd')
> - OmStAXBuilderTest.java to OMStAXBuilderTest.java (uppercase 'M')
>
> Do we have any interop tests? (see http://www.whitemesa.net/)
>
> Thanks,
> dims
>
> --
> Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/
>