jmeter gui

[Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com>]

i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered migrating to 
a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?

thanks

Re: jmeter gui

[Michael Stover <ms...@apache.org>]

I'm not a huge SWT fan because it requires separate installations on
each OS, removing most of the advantages of a write-once run anywhere
app.  I doubt the long-term advantages of SWT vs Swing - in other words,
I think SWT's advantages in performance and footprint are likely to be
short-lived, as Swing will likely catch up, and it is basically good
enough already.  Look and feel concerns do not concern me in the least -
I couldn't care less. And spending time rewriting the GUI means not
spending time doing something truly interesting.

-Mike

On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 18:42 -0400, Mark Lybarger wrote:
> OpenVMS, wow, that brings back some old memories. DCL, COM scripts, stable 
> as a herd of horses, and even built in file revisions.
> 
> Michael, 
> 
> What is it about SWT that you don't favor? It's quite a shame that 
> eclipse/netbeans decided not to persue a common plugin api. From what I 
> understand, the eclipse plugins are much easier to put together than a 
> netbeans. I've only done simple eclipse plugins, and haven't looked at doing 
> netbeans plugins since the early 3.x releases.
> 
> ~mark
> 
> 
> On 7/15/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, we use JMeter on HP OpenVMS.
> > However, we only use it in non-GUI mode for testing.
> > 
> > Test plans are developed on Windows. This is partly because the VMS
> > servers are at a remote location and partly because early versions of
> > Java AWT/Swing on VMS were much slower than on a PC. We've not tried
> > running Java GUI on recent VMS Java versions.
> > 
> > S.
> > On 15/07/05, Michael Stover <ms...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Sebb, do you use JMeter on a platform that SWT doesn't support?
> > >
> > > Just curious. I'm not one who overly favors SWT myself...
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 14:46 +0100, sebb wrote:
> > > > JMeter also supports non-GUI mode - so the separation _has_ to be good 
> > !
> > > >
> > > > S.
> > > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > the separation is pretty clean, so it really is just a matter of
> > > > > writing the gui part.
> > > > >
> > > > > peter
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/15/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using 
> > jmeter on. i
> > > > > > think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was 
> > looking to
> > > > > > get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model 
> > type code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the 
> > OSes
> > > > > > > that support Java.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > S.
> > > > > > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the 
> > last 2
> > > > > > > > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though 
> > one day
> > > > > > > > i would like to.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > peter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have 
> > considered
> > > > > > > migrating to
> > > > > > > > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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Re: jmeter gui

[Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com>]

OpenVMS, wow, that brings back some old memories. DCL, COM scripts, stable 
as a herd of horses, and even built in file revisions.

Michael, 

What is it about SWT that you don't favor? It's quite a shame that 
eclipse/netbeans decided not to persue a common plugin api. From what I 
understand, the eclipse plugins are much easier to put together than a 
netbeans. I've only done simple eclipse plugins, and haven't looked at doing 
netbeans plugins since the early 3.x releases.

~mark


On 7/15/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, we use JMeter on HP OpenVMS.
> However, we only use it in non-GUI mode for testing.
> 
> Test plans are developed on Windows. This is partly because the VMS
> servers are at a remote location and partly because early versions of
> Java AWT/Swing on VMS were much slower than on a PC. We've not tried
> running Java GUI on recent VMS Java versions.
> 
> S.
> On 15/07/05, Michael Stover <ms...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Sebb, do you use JMeter on a platform that SWT doesn't support?
> >
> > Just curious. I'm not one who overly favors SWT myself...
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 14:46 +0100, sebb wrote:
> > > JMeter also supports non-GUI mode - so the separation _has_ to be good 
> !
> > >
> > > S.
> > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > the separation is pretty clean, so it really is just a matter of
> > > > writing the gui part.
> > > >
> > > > peter
> > > >
> > > > On 7/15/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using 
> jmeter on. i
> > > > > think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but
> > > > >
> > > > > i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was 
> looking to
> > > > > get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model 
> type code.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the 
> OSes
> > > > > > that support Java.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > S.
> > > > > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the 
> last 2
> > > > > > > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though 
> one day
> > > > > > > i would like to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have 
> considered
> > > > > > migrating to
> > > > > > > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
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Re: jmeter gui

[sebb <se...@gmail.com>]

Yes, we use JMeter on HP OpenVMS. 
However, we only use it in non-GUI mode for testing.

Test plans are developed on Windows. This is partly because the VMS
servers are at a remote location and partly because early versions of
Java AWT/Swing on VMS were much slower than on a PC. We've not tried
running Java GUI on recent VMS Java versions.

S.
On 15/07/05, Michael Stover <ms...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sebb,    do you use JMeter on a platform that SWT doesn't support?
> 
> Just curious.  I'm not one who overly favors SWT myself...
> 
> -Mike
> 
> On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 14:46 +0100, sebb wrote:
> > JMeter also supports non-GUI mode - so the separation _has_ to be good !
> >
> > S.
> > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > the separation is pretty clean, so it really is just a matter of
> > > writing the gui part.
> > >
> > > peter
> > >
> > > On 7/15/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using jmeter on. i
> > > > think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but
> > > >
> > > > i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was looking to
> > > > get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model type code.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the OSes
> > > > > that support Java.
> > > > >
> > > > > S.
> > > > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
> > > > > > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
> > > > > > i would like to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered
> > > > > migrating to
> > > > > > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: jmeter gui

[Michael Stover <ms...@apache.org>]

Sebb,    do you use JMeter on a platform that SWT doesn't support?

Just curious.  I'm not one who overly favors SWT myself...

-Mike

On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 14:46 +0100, sebb wrote:
> JMeter also supports non-GUI mode - so the separation _has_ to be good !
> 
> S.
> On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > the separation is pretty clean, so it really is just a matter of
> > writing the gui part.
> > 
> > peter
> > 
> > On 7/15/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using jmeter on. i
> > > think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but
> > >
> > > i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was looking to
> > > get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model type code.
> > >
> > > On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the OSes
> > > > that support Java.
> > > >
> > > > S.
> > > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
> > > > > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
> > > > > i would like to.
> > > > >
> > > > > peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered
> > > > migrating to
> > > > > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: jmeter gui

[sebb <se...@gmail.com>]

JMeter also supports non-GUI mode - so the separation _has_ to be good !

S.
On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the separation is pretty clean, so it really is just a matter of
> writing the gui part.
> 
> peter
> 
> On 7/15/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using jmeter on. i
> > think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but
> >
> > i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was looking to
> > get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model type code.
> >
> > On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the OSes
> > > that support Java.
> > >
> > > S.
> > > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
> > > > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
> > > > i would like to.
> > > >
> > > > peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered
> > > migrating to
> > > > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: jmeter gui

[Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com>]

the separation is pretty clean, so it really is just a matter of
writing the gui part.

peter

On 7/15/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using jmeter on. i
> think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but
> 
> i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was looking to
> get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model type code.
> 
> On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the OSes
> > that support Java.
> >
> > S.
> > On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
> > > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
> > > i would like to.
> > >
> > > peter
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered
> > migrating to
> > > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
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Re: jmeter gui

[Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com>]

but it is available on the platforms most folks would be using jmeter on. i 
think it's a big dependancy to be dependant on eclipse, but 

i haven't checked out the gui code for jmeter yet, i guess i was looking to 
get some info on how segregated the gui was from the action/model type code.

On 7/14/05, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the OSes
> that support Java.
> 
> S.
> On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
> > years. unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
> > i would like to.
> >
> > peter
> >
> >
> > On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered 
> migrating to
> > > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
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Re: jmeter gui

[sebb <se...@gmail.com>]

One disadvantage of SWT is that it is not available for all the OSes
that support Java.

S.
On 15/07/05, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
> years.  unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
> i would like to.
> 
> peter
> 
> 
> On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered migrating to
> > a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
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Re: jmeter gui

[Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com>]

haha, I've been joking about porting jmeter to eclipse for the last 2
years.  unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it, though one day
i would like to.

peter


On 7/14/05, Mark Lybarger <ml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i was just wondering if any of the jmeter folks have considered migrating to
> a swt interface, and if so, what are the conclusions?
> 
> thanks
> 
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