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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Philippe Lavoie <ph...@cactus.ca> on 2000/01/13 17:36:04 UTC
Competition to Cocoon from Microsoft ?
Hi,
My company uses Microsoft heavilly. They love what I'm doing with Cocoon
right now. However
they want me to assure them that there is no Microsoft alternative.
I've looked at the msdn site and I was able to find a lot of stuff about XML
but nothing
that ressembles a publishing engine.
I'd be interested to know if anyone knows of something offered by Microsoft
that
ressembles Cocoon (closely or loosely). Actually, I'd be more interested to
know
that I was right and that Cocoon is just way ahead of Microsoft on that one
:)
Phil
PS I know a similar question was asked before, but the focus wasn't on
Microsoft
and in 3 months, things change a lot in this industry.
Re: Competition to Cocoon from Microsoft ?
Posted by Steve Muench <sm...@us.oracle.com>.
Besides Portal-to-Go, there's also the
free Oracle XSQL Pages and XSQL Servlet
that have been enhanced with lots of
feedback from developers. No marketing
in its vicinity if I can help it! But
like Stefano, I'm biased since I help
to develop it... :-)
_________________________________________________________
Steve Muench, Consulting Product Manager & XML Evangelist
Business Components for Java Development Team
http://technet.oracle.com/tech/java
http://technet.oracle.com/tech/xml
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <st...@apache.org>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Competition to Cocoon from Microsoft ?
| Philippe Lavoie wrote:
| >
| > Hi,
| >
| > My company uses Microsoft heavilly. They love what I'm doing with Cocoon
| > right now. However
| > they want me to assure them that there is no Microsoft alternative.
| >
| > I've looked at the msdn site and I was able to find a lot of stuff about
XML
| > but nothing
| > that ressembles a publishing engine.
| >
| > I'd be interested to know if anyone knows of something offered by
Microsoft
| > that
| > ressembles Cocoon (closely or loosely). Actually, I'd be more interested
to
| > know
| > that I was right and that Cocoon is just way ahead of Microsoft on that
one
| > :)
| >
| > Phil
| >
| > PS I know a similar question was asked before, but the focus wasn't on
| > Microsoft
| > and in 3 months, things change a lot in this industry.
|
| The closest Cocoon competitors are Oracle Portal-to-go and ObjectDesign
| Excelon, mostly because they use XML + XSL to create web content. I
| breafly evaluated the Excelon and when I went at Oracle in Sweden where
| they showed me their software.
|
| Well, I you know I'm probably the most biased around here, but I don't
| see a real competitor for what we have today.
|
| True, there are applications with another focus (mostly e-commerce or
| e-business based) and some of them are WAP focused (Oracle's) but we cut
| down the marketing crap and do things that do what you need.
|
| This is rarely the case with commercial software...
|
| --
| Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
| able to give birth to a dancing star.
| <st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
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|
|
|
Re: Competition to Cocoon from Microsoft ?
Posted by brian moseley <ix...@maz.org>.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> The closest Cocoon competitors are Oracle Portal-to-go
> and ObjectDesign Excelon, mostly because they use XML +
http://www.bowstreet.com
Re: Competition to Cocoon from Microsoft ?
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Philippe Lavoie wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My company uses Microsoft heavilly. They love what I'm doing with Cocoon
> right now. However
> they want me to assure them that there is no Microsoft alternative.
>
> I've looked at the msdn site and I was able to find a lot of stuff about XML
> but nothing
> that ressembles a publishing engine.
>
> I'd be interested to know if anyone knows of something offered by Microsoft
> that
> ressembles Cocoon (closely or loosely). Actually, I'd be more interested to
> know
> that I was right and that Cocoon is just way ahead of Microsoft on that one
> :)
>
> Phil
>
> PS I know a similar question was asked before, but the focus wasn't on
> Microsoft
> and in 3 months, things change a lot in this industry.
The closest Cocoon competitors are Oracle Portal-to-go and ObjectDesign
Excelon, mostly because they use XML + XSL to create web content. I
breafly evaluated the Excelon and when I went at Oracle in Sweden where
they showed me their software.
Well, I you know I'm probably the most biased around here, but I don't
see a real competitor for what we have today.
True, there are applications with another focus (mostly e-commerce or
e-business based) and some of them are WAP focused (Oracle's) but we cut
down the marketing crap and do things that do what you need.
This is rarely the case with commercial software...
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
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