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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Simon Brouwer <si...@brousant.nl> on 2012/04/02 20:26:18 UTC

names of the project and the product

Hi all,

On the current front page of nl.openoffice.org, which I am starting to 
update, it is explained how OpenOffice.org is both the name of our 
project and our product.

I am  not sure whether this is still accurate. In various places in the 
software, such as the general starting screen and the "about"-dialog, it 
appears to be presented quite prominently as Apache OpenOffice (or 
Apache Open Office?).

On the other hand in the software and on the website the product is 
still mostly referred to as OpenOffice.org.

Are we going to change the name or stick with the old one?
IMO using both sends out a confusing message.

-- 
Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

Simon Brouwer

Re: names of the project and the product

Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On Monday, 2. April 2012 at 20:26, Simon Brouwer wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> On the current front page of nl.openoffice.org, which I am starting to  
> update, it is explained how OpenOffice.org is both the name of our  
> project and our product.
>  
> I am not sure whether this is still accurate. In various places in the  
> software, such as the general starting screen and the "about"-dialog, it  
> appears to be presented quite prominently as Apache OpenOffice (or  
> Apache Open Office?).
>  
>  

Apache OpenOffice  
>  
> On the other hand in the software and on the website the product is  
> still mostly referred to as OpenOffice.org.
>  
>  

will be changed but both is correct  
>  
> Are we going to change the name or stick with the old one?
> IMO using both sends out a confusing message.
>  
>  

As mentioned before both is correct and it will make the relation even more visible.
With the next version after 3.4 we will align everything.

Jürgen

>  
> --  
> Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,
>  
> Simon Brouwer  


Re: names of the project and the product

Posted by Simon Brouwer <si...@brousant.nl>.
Op 2-4-2012 21:58, Rob Weir schreef:
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Simon Brouwer<si...@brousant.nl>  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On the current front page of nl.openoffice.org, which I am starting to
>> update, it is explained how OpenOffice.org is both the name of our project
>> and our product.
>>
>> I am  not sure whether this is still accurate. In various places in the
>> software, such as the general starting screen and the "about"-dialog, it
>> appears to be presented quite prominently as Apache OpenOffice (or Apache
>> Open Office?).
>>
>>
> If you see "Apache Open Office" (with the extra space) then that is
> incorrect.
>
> If you want to know the background you can read the Apache product
> guidelines here:
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
>
> Essentially the project and the product are required to have a name like
> "Apache Foo".  Most Apache projects use the same name for project and
> product, though there are some deviations from that.  But the "Apache" part
> of the name is mandatory.
>
> Several months ago we had a debate on this list and a vote, on whether to
> go with "Apache OpenOffice" or "Apache OpenOffice.org".  The name "Apache
> OpenOffice" won.
>
> However, transitioning the website(s) and the product UI to this new
> branding will take time.  But even after we switch to the new branding, you
> will still see references on the website to "OpenOffice.org", for example
> when referring to older releases.  That is fine, I think.
>
> -Rob
>

Thanks Rob, Juergen, for the clarifications.

-- 
Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

Simon Brouwer

Re: names of the project and the product

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Simon Brouwer <si...@brousant.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> On the current front page of nl.openoffice.org, which I am starting to
> update, it is explained how OpenOffice.org is both the name of our project
> and our product.
>
> I am  not sure whether this is still accurate. In various places in the
> software, such as the general starting screen and the "about"-dialog, it
> appears to be presented quite prominently as Apache OpenOffice (or Apache
> Open Office?).
>
>
If you see "Apache Open Office" (with the extra space) then that is
incorrect.

If you want to know the background you can read the Apache product
guidelines here:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html

Essentially the project and the product are required to have a name like
"Apache Foo".  Most Apache projects use the same name for project and
product, though there are some deviations from that.  But the "Apache" part
of the name is mandatory.

Several months ago we had a debate on this list and a vote, on whether to
go with "Apache OpenOffice" or "Apache OpenOffice.org".  The name "Apache
OpenOffice" won.

However, transitioning the website(s) and the product UI to this new
branding will take time.  But even after we switch to the new branding, you
will still see references on the website to "OpenOffice.org", for example
when referring to older releases.  That is fine, I think.

-Rob


> On the other hand in the software and on the website the product is still
> mostly referred to as OpenOffice.org.
>
> Are we going to change the name or stick with the old one?
> IMO using both sends out a confusing message.
>
> --
> Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,
>
> Simon Brouwer
>